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Hellhound2723 #1 Posted 30 August 2015 - 09:25 PM

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Do you think if most of the NAzi super weapons were ever mass produced, woull they have affected the outcome of the war? If so which ones and why.

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Things like the Maus would have a fairly big effect on allied morale and would shock them into disarray, but after a short while they'd work out how to kill them and the threat would pass. Things like the Entwicklung series would have a more noticeable effect on the course of the war, and then things like supersonic jet bombers and space lasers and Amerika bombers would definitely change the course of the war (that second one is a bit far fetched but was designed). This is a good question, but be prepared for a bunch of people telling you all of this would never happen and treating you in a very belittling manner. (Not me though, I like stuff like this).

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There's a reason they were never built. And asking those questions as to if they were built, is like suggesting if America ever constructed that super tank that fired potatoes at 1000PPM (potatoes per minute), that they thought up of over lunch. :p

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View PostSpartan Cook, on 30 August 2015 - 03:42 PM, said:

There's a reason they were never built. And asking those questions as to if they were built, is like suggesting if America ever constructed that super tank that fired potatoes at 1000PPM (potatoes per minute), that they thought up of over lunch. :p

It's not a suggestion, just a what if scenario.


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If Hitler was killed, would it have ended the war earlier?

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View PostHellhound2723, on 30 August 2015 - 09:47 PM, said:

It's not a suggestion, just a what if scenario.

 

it's way too imaginative. The Maus was way too expensive and [edited], they just went crazy on the drawing board and said "We'll Win", there's a reason the U.S. didn't just put more armour on the Sherman's to win every armoured engagement, and it's because it would be unrealistic to pump out the Sherman's they desired if they were to be expensive. 

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View PostSpartan Cook, on 30 August 2015 - 03:42 PM, said:

There's a reason they were never built. And asking those questions as to if they were built, is like suggesting if America ever constructed that super tank that fired potatoes at 1000PPM (potatoes per minute), that they thought up of over lunch. :p

Those things could have been mass produced, the resources were there. Time was not on there side, due to constant Allied bombing.


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View PostSqn Ldr B, on 30 August 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

Things like the Maus would have a fairly big effect on allied morale and would shock them into disarray, but after a short while they'd work out how to kill them and the threat would pass. Things like the Entwicklung series would have a more noticeable effect on the course of the war, and then things like supersonic jet bombers and space lasers and Amerika bombers would definitely change the course of the war (that second one is a bit far fetched but was designed). This is a good question, but be prepared for a bunch of people telling you all of this would never happen and treating you in a very belittling manner. (Not me though, I like stuff like this).

The V2 or even the V3 could have affected the war on a small scale if they had more time to perfect the accuracy. It was the first ICBM or Scud missile.


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View PostHellhound2723, on 30 August 2015 - 09:25 PM, said:

Do you think if most of the NAzi super weapons were ever mass produced, woull they have affected the outcome of the war? If so which ones and why.

 

As said before, The Maus would of had a impact. The war woulda gone on a bit longer, but then the Allies would of came up with a counter to the maus, by either a weapon, plane or a tank, then the out-come woulda been the same. Germany losing.

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View PostSpartan Cook, on 30 August 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

 

it's way too imaginative. The Maus was way too expensive and [edited], they just went crazy on the drawing board and said "We'll Win", there's a reason the U.S. didn't just put more armour on the Sherman's to win every armoured engagement, and it's because it would be unrealistic to pump out the Sherman's they desired if they were to be expensive.

Hitler wasnt worried about expenses.


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Sqn Ldr B #11 Posted 30 August 2015 - 10:01 PM

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See what I meant in my first post?

 

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If Hitler was killed, would it have ended the war earlier?

 

Most likely the SS would be seized by a fanatical fighting spirit and gone on until the end. The rest of the German military would probably just cave in as senior officers and Nazi party officials struggled for control of the Reich, especially if Hitler hadn't had the time to name his successor in his will like he did before he killed himself. Most likely the high command would collapse, the fighting spirit of the men would be gone with no leadership, and it would be a case of the hardcore Nazis fighting on until the end and most of the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine fleeing westwards in a wholesale mass exodus in an attempt to surrender to the Western allies rather than the Russians.

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Nazi Germany had a vast slave labor force to pull from.

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View PostHellhound2723, on 30 August 2015 - 10:00 PM, said:

Hitler wasnt worried about expenses.

 

He might not have been worried by them, but they were there. He was ordering things to be done when there simply were not any of the materials and skilled workers to do it.

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View PostHellhound2723, on 30 August 2015 - 10:01 PM, said:

Nazi Germany had a vast slave labor force to pull from.

 

Most of whom would have been liberated by the time the Wunderwaffe was employed. Not trying to go against your original post, just saying.

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View PostSqn Ldr B, on 30 August 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

See what I meant in my first post?

 

 

Most likely the SS would be seized by a fanatical fighting spirit and gone on until the end. The rest of the German military would probably just cave in as senior officers and Nazi party officials struggled for control of the Reich, especially if Hitler hadn't had the time to name his successor in his will like he did before he killed himself. Most likely the high command would collapse, the fighting spirit of the men would be gone with no leadership, and it would be a case of the hardcore Nazis fighting on until the end and most of the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine fleeing westwards in a wholesale mass exodus in an attempt to surrender to the Western allies rather than the Russians.

Very true. His own senior officials had and were plotting against him. Example Valkerie


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View PostHellhound2723, on 30 August 2015 - 10:00 PM, said:

Hitler wasnt worried about expenses.

 

it doesn't matter if he wasn't worried about resources, he still ran out. 

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Very little of the Nazi's "Super weapons" would have had an impact.Germany simply didn't have the production capability and skilled labour to build them in meaningful numbers. They could damage moral but they wouldn't have a major impact on the course of the war. 

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View PostSpartan Cook, on 30 August 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

it doesn't matter if he wasn't worried about resources, he still ran out.

He just didnt have the time.


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View Postlem891, on 30 August 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Very little of the Nazi's "Super weapons" would have had an impact.Germany simply didn't have the production capability and skilled labour to build them in meaningful numbers. They could damage moral but they wouldn't have a major impact on the course of the war.

Maybe not, because we were bombing the hell out of production facilities.


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Okay, On a serious note. If any of those secret weapons came out BEFORE D-day started, Then The war would of gone on longer a lot loner, the out-come would of had the possibility of being different.

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