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kaizomb #61 Posted 31 October 2015 - 09:55 AM

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definitely rockets,as they paved the way for the gigantic space race which engulfed soviet union and usa and without that discovery we wouldn't be going to the moon and start to explore space and now the gigantic universe which is so freeking big its unimagineable to think about it...I love everything connected to space and rockets and computers are helping us to redefine who we actually are and how we got here.obviously we all started in a garden with adam and eve.ahem:P


Nocturnal814 #62 Posted 31 October 2015 - 09:14 PM

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Rockets were prewar tech...

something, something, something, dark side...

WidowMaker1711 #63 Posted 31 October 2015 - 09:24 PM

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View PostNocturnal814, on 31 October 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:

Rockets were prewar tech...

 

About 700 years prewar


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GingerNinjaMax #64 Posted 31 October 2015 - 10:22 PM

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View PostNSW Mntd Rifles, on 31 October 2015 - 05:22 AM, said:

I noticed that nobody has mentioned The United Nations.

 

I take it you are being sarcastic, Lol.  how many conflicts since it came in to being

HighSpyker #65 Posted 31 October 2015 - 10:43 PM

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View PostDStegCat, on 04 September 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

Best WW2 Innovation?

 

A tremendous number of technical innovations came out of WW2? Which do you consider the most important and why?

 

A small representation includes:

Assault Rifle

APCR, HEAT, HESH

NAPALM

Nerve Agents

Computers

Code breaking

The Atomic Bomb

Atomic Energy

Expanded elements of periodic table

Rockets for example the V-2

Penicillin

Mobile Army Surgical Hospitals

Radio Navigation

Radar

Jet Airplane

Helicopter

Missile Submarine plans by Germany

Man Portable Antitank weapon

Night vision – infrared

Plastics

man portable Radio

Silly Putty

nylon and plastics

Blood transfusion

Transistor

Liberty Ship

Manufacturing Techniques for mass production

Hershey Chocolate Bar

DUKW

Pressurized Cockpit Air Travel

Proximity Fuze

DDT

vaccines

Goliath remote control mine

Frisbee

Twinkies

Baby Boomers

Freeze Drying

Cargo Pants

Duct Tape

Microwave

Jerry Can

 

The first assault rifle, the Fedetov Avtomat, dates from 1915.

 

 

 

 

"Radar".



HighSpyker #66 Posted 31 October 2015 - 11:24 PM

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View PostVonHeidler, on 17 September 2015 - 11:31 PM, said:

Vaccines existed prior to WW2

 

the french used in small numbers and the russians to a  greater extent, Assault rifles in WW1

https://en.wikipedia...Fedorov_Avtomat

 

http://www.dieselpun...-of-world-war-1

Wikipedia is an open-source document (anyone can add or edit), so you should never use it as a source, but the Federov Avtomat did exist, and saw some combat in WWI.  An interesting side note is that the Japanese 6.5x50mm Arisaka round is almost exactly the same power envelope of the infamous Soviet 7.62x39mm (of the AK-47/AKM/AKS/Type 56).

 

View PostMatthew J35U5, on 18 September 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

Assault rifles also predate WWII, Germany just invented a catchy name for them. 

 

​Supposedly the term was coined to persuade Hitler to approve the reduced power cartridge.  The M1 Garand was also designed in the reduced-power .276 Pedersen*, but Dougie MacArthur succeeded in forcing a caliber change.  If he had not, we might still be using  it, and would definitely have never seen the M14.

 

 

*125 grain projectile at 2700 fps, a bit more powerful than 7.62x39mm.



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View PostWidowMaker1711, on 31 October 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

 

About 700 years prewar

 

think china, closer to almost 2000 years

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View PostGingerNinjaMax, on 01 November 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

 

I take it you are being sarcastic, Lol.  how many conflicts since it came in to being

 

I certainly was being facetious.

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View PostNSW Mntd Rifles, on 31 October 2015 - 12:22 AM, said:

I noticed that nobody has mentioned The United Nations.

Since when is that liberal, globalist, dictator loving, Israel hating, paper tiger peacekeeping, infested with third world parasites, bunch of burocrats a good thing?  I think the U.S. ought to kick them off of our island.  Seriously, the U.S. would be better off and less "used" by organising a tight club membering U.S., Britain, Canada, Australia, Israel, New Zealand, South Korea, Oceana, E.U. and let all the rest fend for themselves.


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I could be mistaken but i think reconstructive surgery can go on that list.

Navyman8390 #71 Posted 12 November 2015 - 01:56 PM

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The best and most generally useful innovation would have to be the Transistor.  Proximity munitions definatly accelerated transistor development freeing us from the fragility of vacuum tubes.

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View PostNocturnal814, on 31 October 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:

Rockets were prewar tech...

 

 Modern rocketry is the greatest innovation from WW2. Yes others tried years before the war but it took an unprecedented amount of funding from the Wehrmacht to bring liquid fuel rockets of that size and capability to life. Wernher von Braun's knowledge and Wehrmacht funding brought rise to the space age.

Edited by theflash52, 12 November 2015 - 04:02 PM.

 

 

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       Did anyone see the PBS special on November 11th that mentioned the advances in Battlefield Medicine?

"Mortality at present is low: In World War II, 30 percent of the Americans injured in combat died. In Vietnam, the proportion dropped to 24 percent. In the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, about 10 percent of those injured have died."

M.A.S.H. has moved to the combat Medic.

 

Interesting link to how care for how our current returning Veterans has changed and the challenges they go through....

PBS Link


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View PostDStegCat, on 04 September 2015 - 02:53 PM, said:

Best WW2 Innovation?

 

A tremendous number of technical innovations came out of WW2? Which do you consider the most important and why?

 

A small representation includes:

Assault Rifle

APCR, HEAT, HESH

NAPALM

Nerve Agents

Computers

Code breaking

The Atomic Bomb

Atomic Energy

Expanded elements of periodic table

Rockets for example the V-2

Penicillin

Mobile Army Surgical Hospitals

Radio Navigation

Radar

Jet Airplane

Helicopter

Missile Submarine plans by Germany

Man Portable Antitank weapon

Night vision – infrared

Plastics

man portable Radio

Silly Putty

nylon and plastics

Blood transfusion

Transistor

Liberty Ship

Manufacturing Techniques for mass production

Hershey Chocolate Bar

DUKW

Pressurized Cockpit Air Travel

Proximity Fuze

DDT

vaccines

Goliath remote control mine

Frisbee

Twinkies

Baby Boomers

Freeze Drying

Cargo Pants

Duct Tape

Microwave

Jerry Can

 

 

I'm sorry to be technical, but the word innovation should be replaced with invention.
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View PostComjam1998, on 06 December 2015 - 12:37 AM, said:

 

I'm sorry to be technical, but the word innovation should be replaced with invention.

 

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View PostNSW Mntd Rifles, on 18 September 2015 - 08:29 PM, said:

Has anyone mentioned Zyklon B? For years after the war it was used to fumigate ships.

 

Pre-war, again.  It, and all of the nerve agents, were invented as pesticides in the first place.  (Sarin was originally a series of experiments for a compound that would do for every single bug in an entire orchard - this being in the days before mass use of the much-safer DDT demonstrated what happens to an ecology you kill all the insects of.)  Fly spray's a nerve agent, too, just a very very weak one that doesn't work on mammalian nerve cells at the concentrations used.
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View PostNavyman8390, on 12 November 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

The best and most generally useful innovation would have to be the Transistor.  Proximity munitions definatly accelerated transistor development freeing us from the fragility of vacuum tubes.

 

First working example: 1947.  All of that clever stuff the Allies had in WWII?  Done entirely without transistors, just to make it all that bit more impressive.  But, yes, radar proximity fuses were a wartime innovation: 1940 saw the first working prototypes, and after that a lot of the progress consisted in making the tubes resilient enough to be fired out of cannon.
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Radar it saved England and the RAF. Not to mention the boost of being able to fight at night, And flak rounds. Especially installing it in ships. The Kriegs-Marine wolf-pack was devastating. Without radar, There is a good possibility we would all be speaking differently right now. Sprechen Sie Deutsch?

                                                                                                               

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View PostSGT Rock 1963, on 06 December 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Radar it saved England and the RAF. Not to mention the boost of being able to fight at night, And flak rounds. Especially installing it in ships. The Kriegs-Marine wolf-pack was devastating. Without radar, There is a good possibility we would all be speaking differently right now. Sprechen Sie Deutsch?

 

Well, more likely the Iron Curtain would have been on the beaches of the Atlantic: lack of radar would have made the Western Front a lot later to get started with the Normandy Landings.   There really wasn't anything that would have made the Nazis able to win, but without a reason to stop where they did, the Warsaw Pact would have taken in the western possessions of Third Reich as well as the eastern ones. 
 

So, not a great many more german speakers.... but Russian as a second language would have been more popular.


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