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KcKage88 #21 Posted 18 September 2015 - 01:29 PM

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View PostFrank Grimess, on 18 September 2015 - 05:42 AM, said:

 

More importantly where do I set up my Pitchfork Emporium? 

 

I've got the torch stand right next door. Come one come all we have the highest quality torches around and for a reasonable price "get them while there hot". No reasonable offer refused financing available at 20% down and $2.99 a month for 2 months.

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View Postteleogryl, on 18 September 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

 

My answers are essentially the same as Canine's.   I don't care about clans, I'm quite happy that WGCB make their living through gold purchases and aren't just giving it away, I'd prefer to stick with +/-2 matchmaking, and I don't really care about cross console platooning or play. 

 

Modules would be nice, but a) it's never going to happen and b) I'd probably rather WGCB spent their finite resource in other ways - for instance, mechanisms to gently teach players to play a bit better, pay attention to maps etc.  And I only see AFK players occasionally in the games I play - I'm not sure why everybody gets so worked about it.

 

So, I've spoken my mind (as your sig requests) - I decline to join 'la revolucion'.

 

Your argument has been noted, I agree with the argument that WG could try to teach new tankers more about the game. As the tutorial pretty much only covers game controls and not much of strategic, tactic pointers. Or even like you stated situational awareness training (look at the map).

But these are things that are perhaps harder to achieve, due to having to start from scratch. 

Concerning gold, I`d like to say, I`m not against micro transactions or WG making money off of the game. I`m merely stating it`d be nice to have an ingame manner of earning gold, as many freemium games do for their major monetairy currencies ingame. Doesn't have to be copious amounts of gold, but some. 

Stronghold for instance on PC has included a game mechanic in which clans are able to make some gold, part of me being in favor of it.

 

What I don't get though is that a lot of people who are not in favor of clan modes etc. are so outspoken about not supporting it. Why would you care if something gets implemented that would add value for a good group of players (if not majority), which in turn would not have to affect you.


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View PostKcKage88, on 18 September 2015 - 02:29 PM, said:

 

I've got the torch stand right next door. Come one come all we have the highest quality torches around and for a reasonable price "get them while there hot". No reasonable offer refused financing available at 20% down and $2.99 a month for 2 months.

 

like your entrepreneurial spirit son

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View PostAVV Enrico, on 18 September 2015 - 02:37 PM, said:

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explain, like on PC?

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View PostJoeDaFrogman, on 18 September 2015 - 01:44 PM, said:

 

1.   Don't know what you mean SPECIFICALLY, but clan tags are already in the game there just is no UI to edit them

2. come back in a year or two, perhaps three if then.  a WG employee has admitted that Clan wars is so incredibly difficult that it won't be seen in the near future and it WILL NOT be the same as the PC(so in that case, why the hell do we keep calling it the same thing the PC calls it?)

3. doubtful

4. ummmm is that not a part of Clan Wars?    See answer 2

5. Already in there... Sherrif mode is in the game and they have done it at least once.   Then, there is the dozens of givaways they do every year for watching streams, contests, etc.... you have plenty of ways to attempt to earn gold... use them all

6. not going to happen... for like literally the 500000 time, it's not going to happen.. keep asking and the answer will continue to be no.

7. ditto item 7...no.. no no...  

8. they already have to some degree.  the recent 7v7 events have been similar format to what 7/54 was, but there needs to be more software before it can be productized.  

9.  umm what?   They will be in balance.   Everything the PS gets will be the same on the XBox with the sole exception of the Girls und Panzer skin.

10. technical issues, contact Microsoft and [edited]at them for releasing a crappy console upgrade with zero forethought on existing customer base.    

11. that will literally NEVER, EVER happen.... you might as well ask the sun to eat the moon.  More importantly, if you think WG can drive this you are literally insane.

 

1. Is there, ingame a clan hub? Ways to get clan matches going?

2 & 4. Yeah, why would you implement clan wars as is, when you can build something else so it`ll take forever, smart move

3. you didn't even disagree, that was a let down

5. Is this a structural means to earn gold INGAME (see what I did there, perhaps read before reply?)

6. Where did you see me asking it?

7. Jibberish

8. If they already have, where is my invite, lost in the mail? and productized (really?)

9.Then give us Girls un Panzer skins dammit!

10. Dun care, WG can deliver more pressure then we can in this instance

11. I am insane, but that is off topic (and bargaining doesn't start with spending your full budget)

 

 

Ok.. I am going to change this around a bit.   You have several ppoints that ultimately go back to the exact same topic, so:

 

Clan Wars: not going to happen in anything even close to the near future.   Deal with it.   

 

StrongHolds: Same as Clan Wars, but even MORE COMPLEX, so even further out

 

Ways to earn Gold in game:   Yes, there is a way to earn gold in game.  It's called Sheriff mode and is tied to events IN GAME... see what I did there?   Now, the fact that they have only done it once is beside the point, it's there.. and frankly, I don't want them to do it again because people became even BIGGER MORONS in trying to earn gold vs win the match.   

 

Asking: look... if you were to go back and do some research before posting the same topic again, you would see hundreds if not thousands of posts on the topic, including a poll around the full game release with well over 500 "yes, I want it now" replies concerning "I want clan wars".  The fact is, Clan Wars is a HUGE amount of programming and that takes time away from other things that are not even in the game as of yet.  The realist in me knows we won't see Clan Wars for several years.    You and everyone else asking for it repeatedly is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

MM: Not jibberish... MM is not going to change.   Like seriously... it's not.. keep asking... keep being disappointed... thats on you...l learn to deal with how MM works, not whine for it to change.  I promise you will be happier when you stop thinking things that won't change are going to change.  MM has been this way for 4+ years and especially with our relatively low server population it just won't work and just won't happen.   The PC has 10 times the server population, so if Wargaming as a company were to try it anywhere, they would do it there first.   Then.. there is the entire money aspect as converting free XP, premium time, and premium tanks is how they make money and people pay to speed up their grinds and the MM supports that model.   Changing like you suggest neuters some of their profit making ability.

 

GuP Skins:  Playstation exclusive... because contracts... go blame the damned lawyers for PS and the company that owns GuP, not Wargaming....

 

360<->One cross platform:   Do you really think the voice of one developer going to be as effective as the voice of THOUSANDS of consumers?   Think about that for a minute.   More importantly, do you really think WG has just given up on this?   It's up to MS to solve the technical issues.   On the positive side, each Xbox 360 update, I see more and more integration with the One's version of Live.  For example, just last night I got an update for my 360 and NOW, I can not only see that my friend is playing on the One, but I can also see what game they are playing which I was unable to do the previous year.   This is progress.   Just Like on release of the One, I could not send voice messages to people on the One(even if they had a 360 and were just logged into the One), but as of about a month or two ago, I could suddenly send and received voice messages to One players and it just works.     Was this because of WG?  I highly doubt it.   I seems as if MS is finally getting their thumbs out of their backside and figuring out that if they have an "XBOX" console, they need to just "make it work" regardless of which version.    Unfortunately, progress is slow and who knows when/if it will be done fully.    I do hope to one day party up with someone on both platforms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 08:33 AM, said 

 

What I don't get though is that a lot of people who are not in favor of clan modes etc. are so outspoken about not supporting it. Why would you care if something gets implemented that would add value for a good group of players (if not majority), which in turn would not have to affect you.

To whom are you referring?      Just like TONS of other things on the forums, I think you might be confusing someone being a realist and having more important priorities with outright hatred toward a subject.     The same thing happens with the cap vs kill debate, the cappers seem to THINK that most players want to never cap and have simple TDM, but that is not the case, the "kill" camp just wants people to use their damned brains and cap at times when it will make a difference.    personally, I see 5 times more players who die trying to head toward a cap when their could have lived and had a MUCH bigger influence on the game in another location vs those times when someone did not cap and should have(and thus lost).   There is an old saying "penny wise and pound foolish" which equates to people thinking small and failing to see the big picture.  

 

 

 



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View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

What I don't get though is that a lot of people who are not in favor of clan modes etc. are so outspoken about not supporting it. Why would you care if something gets implemented that would add value for a good group of players (if not majority), which in turn would not have to affect you.

 

It's a kneejerk reaction to you saying 'we' - you give the impression of trying to speak on behalf of all of us about something I'm not interested in.  I'd have no complaints about it being implemented; but I do react to people who try to claim that the whole playerbase is desperate for it (you didn't say that, but people have done so in the past).



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Changing MM is a terrible idea.

Why would you want to bring in competitive play while taking skill out of the game? +/-2 is easy.

Try scouts if -/+2 is too hard.

 

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View Postteleogryl, on 18 September 2015 - 09:03 AM, said:

 

It's a kneejerk reaction to you saying 'we' - you give the impression of trying to speak on behalf of all of us about something I'm not interested in.  I'd have no complaints about it being implemented; but I do react to people who try to claim that the whole playerbase is desperate for it (you didn't say that, but people have done so in the past).

 

True dat.  There are perhaps, maybe 10% of the population interested in clan related activities and I personally think I am being generous with that 10% number.    I don't care if they do get implemented.  Nor will I CRY or throw a tantrum if they are implemented before some of the things I WANT are implemented.  However, IMHO, i would rather have more Training missions.. I mean real training missions that cover MECHANICS, not game mode [edited].   I have offered up a storyboard idea in the past for exactly how to explain a large portion of camo/spotting system they would take a player perhaps 1-2 minutes to complete... yes, lot's of code, but DAMNED, a hell of a lot of better trained players to boot.  And less complainers on the forums or at least more informed complaints instead of "so and so is hacking because he is shooting me while invisible, this games sucks!"

 

 

 

 


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View PostJoeDaFrogman, on 18 September 2015 - 02:53 PM, said:

 

 

Ok.. I am going to change this around a bit.   You have several ppoints that ultimately go back to the exact same topic, so:

 

Clan Wars: not going to happen in anything even close to the near future.   Deal with it.   

 

StrongHolds: Same as Clan Wars, but even MORE COMPLEX, so even further out

 

Ways to earn Gold in game:   Yes, there is a way to earn gold in game.  It's called Sheriff mode and is tied to events IN GAME... see what I did there?   Now, the fact that they have only done it once is beside the point, it's there.. and frankly, I don't want them to do it again because people became even BIGGER MORONS in trying to earn gold vs win the match.   

 

Asking: look... if you were to go back and do some research before posting the same topic again, you would see hundreds if not thousands of posts on the topic, including a poll around the full game release with well over 500 "yes, I want it now" replies concerning "I want clan wars".  The fact is, Clan Wars is a HUGE amount of programming and that takes time away from other things that are not even in the game as of yet.  The realist in me knows we won't see Clan Wars for several years.    You and everyone else asking for it repeatedly is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

MM: Not jibberish... MM is not going to change.   Like seriously... it's not.. keep asking... keep being disappointed... thats on you...l learn to deal with how MM works, not whine for it to change.  I promise you will be happier when you stop thinking things that won't change are going to change.  MM has been this way for 4+ years and especially with our relatively low server population it just won't work and just won't happen.   The PC has 10 times the server population, so if Wargaming as a company were to try it anywhere, they would do it there first.   Then.. there is the entire money aspect as converting free XP, premium time, and premium tanks is how they make money and people pay to speed up their grinds and the MM supports that model.   Changing like you suggest neuters some of their profit making ability.

 

GuP Skins:  Playstation exclusive... because contracts... go blame the damned lawyers for PS and the company that owns GuP, not Wargaming....

 

360<->One cross platform:   Do you really think the voice of one developer going to be as effective as the voice of THOUSANDS of consumers?   Think about that for a minute.   More importantly, do you really think WG has just given up on this?   It's up to MS to solve the technical issues.   On the positive side, each Xbox 360 update, I see more and more integration with the One's version of Live.  For example, just last night I got an update for my 360 and NOW, I can not only see that my friend is playing on the One, but I can also see what game they are playing which I was unable to do the previous year.   This is progress.   Just Like on release of the One, I could not send voice messages to people on the One(even if they had a 360 and were just logged into the One), but as of about a month or two ago, I could suddenly send and received voice messages to One players and it just works.     Was this because of WG?  I highly doubt it.   I seems as if MS is finally getting their thumbs out of their backside and figuring out that if they have an "XBOX" console, they need to just "make it work" regardless of which version.    Unfortunately, progress is slow and who knows when/if it will be done fully.    I do hope to one day party up with someone on both platforms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get what you are saying

 

But both CW and Stronghold have been designed and just need a port, so the bla about 5 years development, might have been true for the PC (and first development and implementation) of these modes, but not so much here. I get that implementation would take away capacity from elsewhere, but as you so clearly pointed out, in many (even pre-release) forum posts the overwhelming majority of the tankers wanted it, so why not use dev capacity for this instead of something the tankers would want less?

 

Gold in game we can keep talking and missing eachothers definitions intentionally, I`m on about a structural means, and yes this would mean ppl would (in essence) have to buy less gold. But it would also allow more players to experience playing the game with gold hence getting them to spend it when that little bit of gold has run out.

 

I get MM has influence on spending patterns (albeit it ever so slightly), I bought several premium tanks but not for MM. Population size argument is of lesser gravity, since I and as far as I have asked around a lot of ppl with me are willing to wait atleast twice the amount of loading time during MM for it to search closer matched teams.

 

The fact these topics have been (re)visited this many times is no reason to give up on em, it is reason to digg in for the long haul. If we all were to think this manner would there ever be progression in anything?

 

K, GuP is contract with PS, awesome, give us Dudes und panzers, or Comrades and Objects, what evs.

 

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View PostJoeDaFrogman, on 18 September 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

To whom are you referring?      Just like TONS of other things on the forums, I think you might be confusing someone being a realist and having more important priorities with outright hatred toward a subject.     The same thing happens with the cap vs kill debate, the cappers seem to THINK that most players want to never cap and have simple TDM, but that is not the case, the "kill" camp just wants people to use their damned brains and cap at times when it will make a difference.    personally, I see 5 times more players who die trying to head toward a cap when their could have lived and had a MUCH bigger influence on the game in another location vs those times when someone did not cap and should have(and thus lost).   There is an old saying "penny wise and pound foolish" which equates to people thinking small and failing to see the big picture.  

 

 

 

 

get your example and yes think that most players should get a general sense of what is going on during a battle and act upon it, but you see this over the board of multiplayer games. Thats why you have players that perfrom better then others.

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View Postteleogryl, on 18 September 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

 

It's a kneejerk reaction to you saying 'we' - you give the impression of trying to speak on behalf of all of us about something I'm not interested in.  I'd have no complaints about it being implemented; but I do react to people who try to claim that the whole playerbase is desperate for it (you didn't say that, but people have done so in the past).

 

We implies to a multitude of ppl, which is no lie, if you are part of the we is all to you, not speaking on behalf of anyone who doesn't want me to speak on their behalf, so keep you panties untangled

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View PostJoeDaFrogman, on 18 September 2015 - 03:14 PM, said:

 

True dat.  There are perhaps, maybe 10% of the population interested in clan related activities and I personally think I am being generous with that 10% number.    I don't care if they do get implemented.  Nor will I CRY or throw a tantrum if they are implemented before some of the things I WANT are implemented.  However, IMHO, i would rather have more Training missions.. I mean real training missions that cover MECHANICS, not game mode [edited].   I have offered up a storyboard idea in the past for exactly how to explain a large portion of camo/spotting system they would take a player perhaps 1-2 minutes to complete... yes, lot's of code, but DAMNED, a hell of a lot of better trained players to boot.  And less complainers on the forums or at least more informed complaints instead of "so and so is hacking because he is shooting me while invisible, this games sucks!"

 

 

 

 

 

agreed, but even a series of "slides" or helpful pages (ingame) would serve the playerbase a lot (imo). I think just having an explanation with all these different facettes of the game would make the world of difference in noobs get to learn to play the game and what effect it has on gameplay (having knowledgable tankers ingame).

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View Postdukeofpeasant, on 18 September 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Changing MM is a terrible idea.

Why would you want to bring in competitive play while taking skill out of the game? +/-2 is easy.

Try scouts if -/+2 is too hard.

 

Congrats you're the greatest clan at WoT Easy Mode? 

 

Stock IS in a tier 9 battle, or a stock E50 in tier 10 and many more examples.. either drop em down a tier, get better base packages on em or indeed alter MM


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View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

 

Stock IS in a tier 9 battle, or a stock E50 in tier 10 and many more examples.. either drop em down a tier, get better base packages on em or indeed alter MM

 

Lol. No. Free XP all the way.

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View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

 

 

But both CW and Stronghold have been designed and just need a port, so the bla about 5 years development, might have been true for the PC (and first development and implementation) of these modes, but not so much here. I get that implementation would take away capacity from elsewhere, but as you so clearly pointed out, in many (even pre-release) forum posts the overwhelming majority of the tankers wanted it, so why not use dev capacity for this instead of something the tankers would want less?

Yes it is true here... The devs have a roadmap given to them by someone else(marketing/pr departments along with senior management) and they have a limited capacity.   

 

And to be clear, the majority of the RESPONDENTS wanted it, but that was FAR from the majority of PLAYERS and there is a difference.    

 

Now, let me tell you something you don't know... I have worked in a corporate environment for 20+ years.    I have been both in support (telephone support) AS WELL AS development for several different companies.     I kind of know what I am talking about.   I don't know what you do, if anything, but hopefully, you will agree that I have at least a modicum of insight into the software design process(though not specific a game developer).   

 

Now.... let me ask you ANOTHER question... after all this time on the PC, exactly why is it that the clan players have to modify Clan stuff and schedules and all that stuff in a WEB BROWSER and NOT IN THE GAME ITSELF?      See... I know a bit about software(as mentioned above) and how stuff works and if I am telling you that Clan Wars is a feature that would take well over a year to develop, I hope you can actually trust that I have some inkling as to what I am talking about.  

 

 

View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

Gold in game we can keep talking and missing eachothers definitions intentionally, I`m on about a structural means, and yes this would mean ppl would (in essence) have to buy less gold. But it would also allow more players to experience playing the game with gold hence getting them to spend it when that little bit of gold has run out.

 

We just disagree that people who won't spend money on the game ever will spend if they get a bit because frankly, they already do get a fair bit just by doing the tutorials and by other means.   More importnatly, less than 10% of the player population will play clan wars.... Then from that, only the best clans will consistently earn gold, so that number of players who earn even a tiny bit of gold would be...well... tiny.  

 

View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

 

I get MM has influence on spending patterns (albeit it ever so slightly), I bought several premium tanks but not for MM. Population size argument is of lesser gravity, since I and as far as I have asked around a lot of ppl with me are willing to wait atleast twice the amount of loading time during MM for it to search closer matched teams.

 

What about 5 times longer?  What about getting into 5v5 games and earning 200 XP on a win instead of 800 XP on a win?   Though I don't, most people grind tanks... frankly, I don't want to sit around waiting 5+ minutes for a 15 vs 15 match, much less a 5v5 match AND THEN get punished by earning less XP and silver to boot.    There are LOADS of issues with changing MM and frankly, the time to wait is only one of them to be considered... and... as mentioned a few times already, if the PC has not done it with their large player population, you should stop holding out hope for a much smaller population to get it.     

 

How about this.... do what I did... stop worrying about it and concentrate on getting better....I can promise you, as you learn to play better, the MM vagarities become less important overall...Hell... go play 2000 game in a tier VII scout tank and then come back and complain about your tier IV tank in a tier VIII game... and I will say to you cry me a river as I don't care( I play a lot of scout tank matches, so get a decent proportion of +3 matches and I do so because I enjoy the challenge)

 

View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

Dont give 2 sheitz about who voices the issue about platooning and partying, just get it done

You should.... If you want change, don't rely on someone else to advocate for you.    Literally, go to the Xbox forums and do something yourself.    Get thousands of other players to do so as well.   My point being "just get it done" is putting it on someone else to do it, why don't YOU BE THE ONE TO DRIVE IT.       Look....If you think WG is not trying to work with MS on this, you are crazy.   But frankly, WG is a single voice in the wilderness and MS cares more about how much it costs them than what one lone developer thinks.    Again, I see it as a good sign that they have added some backwards compatibility stuff to the One/360, but I also know how slow stuff is.

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostDonNarko, on 18 September 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

 

Stock IS in a tier 9 battle, or a stock E50 in tier 10 and many more examples.. either drop em down a tier, get better base packages on em or indeed alter MM

Stock packages are supposed be bad. That's why you grind, to unlock the good packages. 

If the stock IS came with a 122mm why bother grinding any other packages on it? 

Or the stock tiger getting the long 88 as the second gun. All it will do is make the grind quicker, and then people are going be sitting on a mountain of tier Xs complaining they have nothing to play demanding more changes.

 

I still say MM is fine. It creates skills.

You want a -/+1 MM, OK so we get it one day, and oh look someone is complaining that -/+1 is unfair cause their stock vk36 struggles against an elite IS. Let's just cut to the end and start saying MM should be same tier only. We can wait 10 minutes in lobby for a 5m white washing. Hooray


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View Postdukeofpeasant, on 18 September 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

I still say MM is fine. It creates skills.

You want a -/+1 MM, OK so we get it one day, and oh look someone is complaining that -/+1 is unfair cause their stock vk36 struggles against an elite IS. Let's just cut to the end and start saying MM should be same tier only. We can wait 10 minutes in lobby for a 5m white washing. Hooray

People don't want to earn this skills... they want to kill noobs cuz game is super easy m8


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