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XxHonorless83xX #101 Posted 09 October 2015 - 12:09 AM

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View PostLOSTVENGENCE96, on 07 October 2015 - 02:34 PM, said:

That WG account is sickening. With is someone supposed to do with 19.8 million gold? Lol.

I'd ask a question, but odds of getting a response doesn't ever seem high.

That's a INSANE amount of Gold, I do Blow maybe enough $ for 3-6,000 Gold a Month but I use it to Un-Equip my 19 Tanks I believe but mostly to convert Free XP so I don't have to waste time on anything below a Tier 5. I use Silver for my APCR or HEAT Rounds.


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JohnnyRebel55 #102 Posted 09 October 2015 - 12:30 AM

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This MoE is almost impossible for me to gain I have tried to play it to death in my Tier V and Tier VI....I get every metal but the dag nap it Mark of Excellence....come on is this i joke I keep hearing about it but not seeing it. If you got any better ideas on how to earn this I am all ears. I am to assume it is best to use one tank to accomplish this or not? :bush:

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Cyrex005 #103 Posted 09 October 2015 - 10:28 AM

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Don't know if it was posted. But, my take dumb down take on the MOE equation  (could be off though so it is a theory) you play say 12jan-26jan that is 14 days, they average your damage and if you meet the level fore MOE you get it then on 24jan it is the average of 13jan-27jan. Every new day of battles drops the first of the 14 day span. So say I avg. 1,512 per day for 14 days then have a 2,000 on the"15thday" which is actually day 14 the previous first day drops from the equation and now my average is 1,555 per day average. Just my take like I said and it could be wrong.

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I've had a good week.

My only MOE before this week was 1 on my T1 Heavy.

This week:

Got my first one on my M4 (getting close to 81% now)

Got another on my T20 (got it during the Patton On Track)

Got another on my Pershing which I just started got about 10 days ago. (happy they don't remove if you fall below the requirement because I got up to 67% and after a day of POO like games, I'm down to 63.5%.)

My only advice, don't think about trying to get them. It's like chasing that Confederate (or similar) ops, hard as heck to get it when you try.


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dtproof151 #105 Posted 09 October 2015 - 02:47 PM

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For the technically inclined, here's a description of a moving average:

 

Mathematically, a moving average is a type of convolution and so it can be viewed as an example of a low-pass filter used in signal processing. When used with non-time series data, a moving average filters higher frequency components without any specific connection to time, although typically some kind of ordering is implied. Viewed simplistically it can be regarded as smoothing the data.

Here's an image that shows the behavior of a low pass filter, don't mind the data presented.

 

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Thanks to Noobs for providing the real info here :girl:

 

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View PostCyrex005, on 09 October 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Don't know if it was posted. But, my take dumb down take on the MOE equation (could be off though so it is a theory) you play say 12jan-26jan that is 14 days, they average your damage and if you meet the level fore MOE you get it then on 24jan it is the average of 13jan-27jan. Every new day of battles drops the first of the 14 day span. So say I avg. 1,512 per day for 14 days then have a 2,000 on the"15thday" which is actually day 14 the previous first day drops from the equation and now my average is 1,555 per day average. Just my take like I said and it could be wrong.

 

The 14 days seems to be confusing people. It ONLY applies to what you're being compared to (i.e., your current average is compared to the most recent 14 days of total player activity). It's not keeping track of your most recent 14-day performance to determine if you get MoEs. Your personal performance is tracked indefinately because it's only keeping track of your single most recent game.

 

E.g., say you're at 84.8%, just shy of a second mark, and you stop playing the tank for a full year. When you come back a year later, your percentage will still be very close to 84.8% provided the player base over the previous 2 weeks has been performing at the same level they were a year ago in that tank. You will be able to earn a second mark in a single good game.


 

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Fischypants #107 Posted 09 October 2015 - 05:27 PM

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Maybe stupid question, but... is the moe a star or a stripe, on the barrel, or both? If not then what is the other one?


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View PostFischypants, on 09 October 2015 - 05:27 PM, said:

Maybe stupid question, but... is the moe a star or a stripe, on the barrel, or both? If not then what is the other one?

Each nation has its own stamp. France has a single thick stripe for each mark, Germany has 3 (confusing, yes) thin stripes for each, Soviets have red stars, etc.


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Fischypants #109 Posted 09 October 2015 - 11:41 PM

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Yes very confusing. Even more confusing on how to get one. I just ran through a game getting 4k dam or so with tier 8 med. Earning 154k silver. (Not ops bonus either) w/ ace tanker award ("M") and yet no stripes stars or anything on barrel.


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Hello all, 
 
We understand that there is still confusion about how Marks of Excellence works and is calculated. To help you understand, or confuse you even more, we are giving you more details for Marks of Excellence. Marks of Excellence are calculated by using an EMA (Exponential Moving Average) and each tank has it's own EMA. We compare your EMA against the Highest Average Damage for all players using that same tank during the time period to determine if you qualify for an MoE.
 
If your EMA compared to the Highest Average Damage is:
·         65% or higher- you will earn 1 MoE
·         85% or higher, you will earn 2 MoE
·         95% or higher, you will earn 3 MoE
 
Note: Since MoE’s are based on the highest average damage, it is possible for multiple players to earn a 100% rating
 

Here are some examples of how your performance will affect your EMA. I used a 100 battle period so you can get a better idea on how your EMA will increase/decrease. Lets see how these players performance determine how many games it takes for them to reach an EMA of 1,000. 
 
Example 1: Player who is not very consistent and their performance is all over the place. It took him ~87 games.
 
Example 2: Player who is consistently putting up average (Damage+Assist Damage) games. It took him ~67 games.
 
Example 3: Player who is consistently putting up high (Damage+Assist Damage) games. It took him ~33 games. 

 

So what does this mean in English?

 

Using an EMA prevents players from buying a new tank, playing 1 or 2 good games and earning a Marks of Excellence. If we allowed that to happen, MoE's would have no value or meaning. As you can see, you start out with a low EMA and must build it up over time by performing well in your tank. The better you consistently perform, the faster your EMA will go up and the quicker you will earn an MoE. If you perform poorly in a game your EMA will lower, however, poor games do not affect your EMA as much as a good game will improve it. 

 

Depending on your skill level, at some point your EMA will be equal to your average (Damage+Assist Damage). For example, if your EMA is 1,200 and are at 80% in the Damage Standings and you continue to do an average (Damage+Assist Damage) of 1,200, your EMA and Damage Standing will not increase or decrease. So if you want to get to that 85% level to earn your second MoE, you will need to start doing more than 1,200 (Damage+Assist Damage) to continue to raise your score. 

 

 


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Hope this helps! :honoring:

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These graphs actually helped me understand this much better. Thanks! :)

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Will this become a trilogy? Will it get film adaptations? :trollface:

 

 


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View PostRuefulCenturion, on 10 October 2015 - 11:22 AM, said:

Will this become a trilogy? Will it get film adaptations? :trollface:

 

More importantly, will the Trilogy eventually get a Prequel trilogy that, while not bad, isn't near as good as the original trilogy? :trollface:

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View PostFusionStar287, on 10 October 2015 - 12:32 PM, said:

 

More importantly, will the Trilogy eventually get a Prequel trilogy that, while not bad, isn't near as good as the original trilogy? :trollface:

 

But to have a prequel trilogy to I, II, III, you'd have to go negative....:mellow:


 

 


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View PostFusionStar287, on 10 October 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:

 

More importantly, will the Trilogy eventually get a Prequel trilogy that, while not bad, isn't near as good as the original trilogy? :trollface:

 

He will have to rename the other titles IV, and V.... But I think it could be done.

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 10 October 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Hope this helps! :honoring:

 

Thanks for this!

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So it was said you could technically get them in 2 games, but what I would like to no is there a maximum amount of games it takes this data from before it starts taking/removing battles from the start   or is it as many as you can fit inside the 14 day period? Therefore the more games you play means it could be harder to achieve.

 

I hope this make some kind if sense as i am not sure I understand it myself lol.


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 10 October 2015 - 12:47 PM, said:

So it was said you could technically get them in 2 games, but what I would like to no is there a maximum amount of games it takes this data from before it starts taking/removing battles from the start   or is it as many as you can fit inside the 14 day period? Therefore the more games you play means it could be harder to achieve.

 

I hope this make some kind if sense as i am not sure I understand it myself lol.

 

You are eligible to earn MoEs in 1-2 games but how EMA's work, it would nearly be impossible. There is no maximum amount of games as you only ever have 1 EMA for your tank. The game you just played gets added to your current EMA to create your new EMA. The EMA is never reset on your tank. 

 

The 14 day thing is the global data used to set the bar for 65%, 85%, and 95% requirements based on the average highest damage. This changes daily as its always based on the last 14 days of data. 



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 10 October 2015 - 05:55 PM, said:

 

You are eligible to earn MoEs in 1-2 games but how EMA's work, it would nearly be impossible. There is no maximum amount of games as you only ever have 1 EMA for your tank. The game you just played gets added to your current EMA to create your new EMA. The EMA is never reset on your tank. 

 

The 14 day thing is the global data used to set the bar for 65%, 85%, and 95% requirements based on the average highest damage. This changes daily as its always based on the last 14 days of data. 

So if you have a bad period or get trolled a lot it could take quite a while to get out of a hole.


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