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Gel4ssen #1 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:16 PM

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There's a lot of speculation and hearsay in World of Tanks.  But what do the actual numbers say?  I wanted to find out, so I analyzed over 1 million XBOX player records.  I'm still sifting through the information, but here are a few of the most interesting initial insights:

 

  1. Despite its popularity, the T110E5 performance is actually quite bad.  31 out of 32 in avg. damage, same for avg. vehicles destroyed (0.90), 22 in avg exp (868.18), 49% win rate.
  2. Whether intentional or not, Russian bias is very real:
    1. 5 out of the top 10 tier 10 tanks are Russian (as measured by win rate, avg. damage, kills, etc.)
    2. 5 out of the top 10 tier 9 tanks are Russian.
    3. 3 out of the top 10 tier 8 tanks are Russian.
    4. 5 out of the top 10 tier 7 tanks are Russian.
    5. 4 out of the top 10 tier 6 tanks are Russian.
  3. Published accuracy numbers are not reflected in the actual performance.  Tanks with stated very low accuracy perform just as accurately (sometimes more) as their peers.
  4. The IS-4 outperforms the IS-7 in avg. damage, vehicles destroyed, avg. experience, win rate, and hit percent.
  5. The 121 performs exceptionally well:  1st in wins with a 55% avg. win rate, 3rd in avg. exp (1148.96) (1st amongst mediums).
  6. Artillery is irrelevant to win rate (virtually none have a higher than 50% win rate).  The exception is the FV304 which has an avg. 53% win rate.
  7. The best tier 8 tank is the IS-6 (premium or otherwise).  1st in win rate, with 54%, 2nd in avg. vehicles destroyed (1.12 per battle).
  8. The Brazilian Bulldog performance is really, really bad.  It is dead last in avg. dmg. with 574.31, last in vehicles destroyed (0.43), 41st out of 48 in avg. exp., last in win percent (48%), and 43rd in hit percent.
  9. The Excelsior is actually pretty darn good.  3rd in win rate (54%), 2nd in avg. exp (984.90), 3rd in avg. vehicles destroyed (1.2 per battle).
  10. The T-44 is much better than people think, with a 53% win rate.
  11. The Löwe and T34 are average to low performers.
  12. The Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) is a damn fine tank.  4th in avg. damage for its tier (298.75), 4th in avg. destroyed (1.3), 3rd in avg exp (708.42), 3rd in win rate (57%).

 

I hope to further detail and share my findings with you guys as I can.  If there is something specific you'd like to know, maybe I can query the data for you -- just post it here.


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XxDAFFYxxDUCKxX #2 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:21 PM

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He proved himself well enough, so disregard my posts disagreeing with him.

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Saerbhreathach #3 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:24 PM

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You analyzed "over 1 million XBOX player records...."

 

Sorry to be a fuddy duddy BUT I find that rather hard to believe......:hiding:



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How did you analyze so many? 

Delta Neutral #5 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

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Best type of tank at each tier would be nice.  I'm tired of grinding only to grind to a tank that sucks.  Would be nice to just know which tanks are good or not.

 

Mainly lights/mediums/artys are what I'm interested in.


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Gel4ssen #6 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:27 PM

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View PostSaerbhreathach, on 04 November 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

You analyzed "over 1 million XBOX player records...."

 

Sorry to be a fuddy duddy BUT I find that rather hard to believe......:hiding:

 

I'm a computer programmer.  Computers can crawl the internet and collect vast amounts of information.  Like Google.

killer etzi0 #7 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:28 PM

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But if 3 of the top 10 Tier 8 are Russian, and they place 8th, 9th, and 10th... is that really saying much? (just looking for a glitch in the armor here folks)

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View PostDelta Neutral, on 04 November 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:

Best type of tank at each tier would be nice.  I'm tired of grinding only to grind to a tank that sucks.  Would be nice to just know which tanks are good or not.

 

Mainly lights/mediums/artys are what I'm interested in.

 

The answers you see are subjective. Just statistics wont show what tanks you would like. Many peoples favorite tanks are definitely not top ones of tier.


 

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Turboclicker #9 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:30 PM

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Your analysis is flawed, because you are doing it with a certain idea in mind. It's hard to explain but when you say "Accuracy is irrelevant", I'm assuming you mean accurate vehicles are having crap hit rates and inaccurate vehicles are having high hit rates, etc. This is inherently flawed because accuracy doesn't care what range you're firing at. If a tank is accurate, people will want to take it to long range, if they do that, the margin for error becomes slimmer and slimmer, while a highly inaccurate vehicle isnt going to miss much at point blank.

I could go on and on about other bits but you probably get the gist of what I'm saying. Data doesn't matter if it isn't analyzed properly.

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View PostGigantic Owl, on 04 November 2015 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

The answers you see are subjective. Just statistics wont show what tanks you would like. Many peoples favorite tanks are definitely not top ones of tier.

 

Well favorite and best are different.  I mean I have people say they like the Tier 9 Lorraine Medium and we all know that thing isn't the best tier 8-10 medium.

 

Really I'm just interested in tanks that are extremely OPed in a skilled player's hands, but sucks in a noobs hands, making it 'balanced' overall.

 

Or tanks that are extremely OPed for Noobs but underpowered for skill players.  I like min/max tanks.


Edited by Delta Neutral, 04 November 2015 - 07:34 PM.


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View PostTurboclicker, on 04 November 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Your analysis is flawed, because you are doing it with a certain idea in mind. It's hard to explain but when you say "Accuracy is irrelevant", I'm assuming you mean accurate vehicles are having crap hit rates and inaccurate vehicles are having high hit rates, etc. This is inherently flawed because accuracy doesn't care what range you're firing at. If a tank is accurate, people will want to take it to long range, if they do that, the margin for error becomes slimmer and slimmer, while a highly inaccurate vehicle isnt going to miss much at point blank.

I could go on and on about other bits but you probably get the gist of what I'm saying. Data doesn't matter if it isn't analyzed properly.

 

Yes.  But in the end, accuracy is as accuracy does.

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I call [edited]. I have requested API access from WG for over almost two years so I am very interested in how you pulled this off.

 

PM me, I'll give you my email address and you can dropbox me your data set and/or methods scraping that data. 

 

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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

 

Yes.  But in the end, accuracy is as accuracy does.

 

I don't understand what you're saying here.



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Your exaggeration is literally killing me.

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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

I'm a computer programmer.  Computers can crawl the internet and collect vast amounts of information.  Like Google.

 

Sorry man BUT I'm still not fully convinced....

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View PostPANZERsaurusREX, on 04 November 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

I call [edited]. I have requested API access from WG for over almost two years so I am very interested in how you pulled this off.

 

PM me, I'll give you my email address and you can dropbox me your data set and/or methods scraping that data. 

 

For reference, vBAddict: http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=0&tanktype=0&nation=0&premium=0&modeid=0&team=0&battles=1000&groupby=0&fieldname=won_lost_ratio&server=

 

This is amzing.  Thanks



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View PostSaerbhreathach, on 04 November 2015 - 01:36 PM, said:

 

Sorry man BUT I'm still not fully convinced....

 

Yeah, that's equatable of saying I know how to hack a game because some guy gave me a script to do so.

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"The Löwe and T34 suck"
That statement alone tells me that nothing in the op is to be trusted.

 

Op changed their wording and proved there point. Fair enough.

 

 


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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

 

Yes.  But in the end, accuracy is as accuracy does.

 

I have found that if you spam auto lock with an inaccurate gun your just as likely to hit as with an accurate one. Odd how that works.

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