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JesterUSMC #41 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:01 PM

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Saerbhreathach #42 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:01 PM

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View PostXxDAFFYxxDUCKxX, on 04 November 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

Ohhhhhhhh really....It's on like donkey kong now!!!!!!!!

 



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View PostSaerbhreathach, on 04 November 2015 - 02:01 PM, said:

 

Ohhhhhhhh really....It's on like donkey kong now!!!!!!!!

 

Bring it on!

 


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Danger Doogal #44 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:03 PM

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If op has got a working method of scraping the stats pages reliably then an intermediate api could be stuck on front of that, that's what i would do if i spent the time to do the necessary coding.

i would still love to see an official stats api from wg, looking forward to building some windows phone apps with it.

the only bad thing about parsing html is that if the structure or certain variables change then the parse breaks as we saw with wotinfo when the wot site changed fairly recently.

it would be awesome if your data set was made available to those who might want to do what they may with it :)

wg could back up your claims by looking at their web server logs for the day when the log file was much bigger than normal due to scraping millions of records, that's a lot of data to be pulling ;)


Gel4ssen #45 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:04 PM

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View PostPlayertd, on 04 November 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

Those are some nice opinions.....but certainly not facts lol.

 

You're right.  I injected too much opinion.  I reduced the hyperbole in the original post and included more numbers!  

Gel4ssen #46 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:06 PM

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View PostSlipperyBat3354, on 04 November 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

I don't think you are the only computer programmer here.  It seems to me that getting this information is not as easy as you make it sound.  Do you work for WG?

 

It wasn't particularly easy.  I think that's why people are having trouble believing me.

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View PostXxDAFFYxxDUCKxX, on 04 November 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

Bring it on!

 

 


 

 
     
     

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View PostSlipperyBat3354, on 04 November 2015 - 07:51 PM, said:

I also find it hard to believe that with all that very specific information at your disposal, you chose to provide some very non-specific and subjective conclusions.  For example, the IS-4 is better than the IS-7?  How?  Please provide the actual data that brought you to that conclusion.

 

Criticism noted.  You're right.  I updated my original post.

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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

 

It wasn't particularly easy.  I think that's why people are having trouble believing me.

 

So post the data somewhere. Have it peer reviewed. You know, like any serious scientific analysis of data.
  

Gel4ssen #50 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:08 PM

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View PostXxDAFFYxxDUCKxX, on 04 November 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

I think I found some actual numbers and proof that this guy is simply trolling and doing nothing else. (Not even 400 battles...)

 

So OP, what real life experience do you have backing that up?

 

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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

 

Criticism noted.  You're right.  I updated my original post.

 


 

 
     
     

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View PostPANZERsaurusREX, on 04 November 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

 

Here is proof of my claims to have requested the API in April of 2014: http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/30196-is-there-an-api-to-pull-stats-from-wot-db/

 

Man-up, PM me and I'll give you my email address. Dropbox me your data or it doesn't exist. My guess is that your data set is a couple of orders magnitude off. Here is my guess 1. Scraped a few thousand records at best or 2. You put together a spreadsheet and manually punched in the data of your friends and a few hundred others. Ergo, your data is not representative, from a statistical point of view, of reality, it is just veiled opinion.

 

Edited for clarity.

Either way, calling you out.

 

 

Show me the data! Everyone else, please pass the popcorn.



Danger Doogal #53 Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:11 PM

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For those questioning the ability to pull records, then it really is pretty simple for any competent coder, the harder part is querying the system to return gamertags to actually lookup.
done this type of thing very often myself since the late 90s  ;)

used to use this type of method to build my own custom hosting control panels to interface with my suppliers portals and systems.

so to back up the op, it is technically possible. I just haven't had the time or inclination yet as I've been hanging on for an official api.


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View PostPANZERsaurusREX, on 04 November 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

 

 

Show me the data! Everyone else, please pass the popcorn.

 

Pretty much this. Without the ability to directly see the data, we can't exactly trust you for it.

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View PostXxDAFFYxxDUCKxX, on 04 November 2015 - 04:33 PM, said:

Bring it on!

 

 



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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

 

This is my re-roll account. I'm using it to test hypotheses!

 

Edited: He re-rolled right. Asked for data, came back and OP delivered data. Like asking for Sasquatch photos...except he has Sasquatch photos!

Edited by PANZERsaurusREX, 04 November 2015 - 11:12 PM.


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View PostDanger Doogal, on 04 November 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

For those questioning the ability to pull records, then it really is pretty simple for any competent coder, the harder part is querying the system to return gamertags to actually lookup.
done this type of thing very often myself since the late 90s ;)

used to use this type of method to build my own custom hosting control panels to interface with my suppliers portals and systems.

so to back up the op, it is technically possible. I just haven't had the time or inclination yet as I've been hanging on for an official api.

 

Explain why I believe you and not the OP.

 

Note: I am not being sarcastic, in the time I've been on the forums I have found you to be (IMO) a trustworthy source and knowledgeable.


 

 
     
     

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Sorry if you guys just think I'm trolling.  Not my intention.  I definitely injected too much opinion in my original post.  I edited it to tone it down.  I feel as passionately about this game as everyone here, so I guess I went overboard.  

 

Everyone is asking me to release the data.  I'll give that some thought.  Some of this stuff compromises the game a bit, and perhaps WG, so I'm a bit ambivalent about it.  That's one of the reasons I specified in my original post that you can ask me for specific info and I'll do my best.

 

BTW.  I don't understand the popcorn meme.



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IS-6 best tier VIII. I don't think so. 

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View PostGr4btharsHammer, on 04 November 2015 - 08:15 PM, said:

Sorry if you guys just think I'm trolling.  Not my intention.  I definitely injected too much opinion in my original post.  I edited it to tone it down.  I feel as passionately about this game as everyone here, so I guess I went overboard.  

 

Everyone is asking me to release the data.  I'll give that some thought.  Some of this stuff compromises the game a bit, and perhaps WG, so I'm a bit ambivalent about it.  That's one of the reasons I specified in my original post that you can ask me for specific info and I'll do my best.

 

BTW.  I don't understand the popcorn meme.

 


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