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xXLuckySlydogXx #41 Posted 09 December 2016 - 01:24 PM

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So I can get 500 more damage than anyone else on the battlefield, reds and greens, and LOSE 25 points? This is ridick. Rank me based on my performance not that of a potato team...period. 

Also, what's the point of ranked games if I'm playing in mixed company and not with players in my league?


 

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HeavyKaragh #42 Posted 09 December 2016 - 01:30 PM

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View PostxXLuckySlydogXx, on 09 December 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

Also, what's the point of ranked games if I'm playing in mixed company and not with players in my league?

 

That's the big problem with these tests.

 

It doesn't matter which league you are on, you get afkers and guys grinding their tanks (because they won't play against higher tiers).



MGN JOKERRR #43 Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:08 PM

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So I've managed to make it to platinum rank 44 division with 68 battles and 39 wins 57% as of now... I've almost made it to the master league twice but two separate losing streak occasions has happened and brought me back to here I started (at the beginning of platinum). Can anybody think of a fair way to make this work... It seems like on wins I get around 20 - 35 points and a loss being around 27-32... Ughhh frustrated. How can we make this better???

Chimonakimi #44 Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:30 PM

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The battles are getting ridiculous, can you stop putting us in with idiotic players? Any way we can only be matched with players in our league.

MGN JOKERRR #45 Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:41 PM

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I feel your pain... I'm losing more than I'm gaining... Some of those games I had like 4-5 kills with around 1200-1500 damage and lose the game and still lose like 30 points, :(View PostxXLuckySlydogXx, on 09 December 2016 - 07:24 AM, said:

So I can get 500 more damage than anyone else on the battlefield, reds and greens, and LOSE 25 points? This is ridick. Rank me based on my performance not that of a potato team...period.

Also, what's the point of ranked games if I'm playing in mixed company and not with players in my league?

 



swamp_fox_009 #46 Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:52 PM

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Played 9 matches last night, thanks for starting early! Nice surprise.

 

So these comments are based on a small sample.

 

Scoring:

 

Winning is very important and the most important aspect. Your individual score modifies this by how well you do (high contribution means you get a higher score). I lost one game after being rated, however I was on top of the board so I lost only a few points. Currently I am Gold League. Well done, this was one of my bigger complaints about the last test.

 

From reading others posts it sounds like as you climb the league you are expected to perform and your points are weighted such, will be interesting to see if this holds true. Would be nice if you were then matched up with players in your league, although the PS4 probably doesn't have enough players.

 

Maps:

 

With this small of teams is it fair to have some of the larger maps in play? For example Great Wall is a very large map that is hard to flex to a flank that is in trouble. If your in a slow tank forget helping your team on another flank. At least in tournaments you know a head of time what map you are going to be on and can pick your tank accordingly. Which kind of points out that some tanks are just not mobile enough and shouldn't be selected.

 

 

 

 



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View PostxXLuckySlydogXx, on 09 December 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

So I can get 500 more damage than anyone else on the battlefield, reds and greens, and LOSE 25 points? This is ridick. Rank me based on my performance not that of a potato team...period. 

Also, what's the point of ranked games if I'm playing in mixed company and not with players in my league?

 

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swamp_fox_009 #48 Posted 09 December 2016 - 05:05 PM

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Take it or leave it - wins are heavily weighted.

 

Does win rate = a maximum achievable league?

 

For example, lets say I have a 55% win rate within the Ranked Battles, should there be a maximum league that I can achieve? I mean if I play 100 games or 1000 games, statistically is there a maximum league that I will achieve with this win rate? You could say well be a high contributor in loosing games, however were talking about 100s of games here and averages are going to play out in the long run, Especially as you climb into higher leagues and are expected/weighted to do better, at some point your going to reach a maximum level based on your average/typical game. Seems like statistically you should hit a maximum ranking level? I mean at some point shouldn't your abilities limit your progression? At least you can't be moved to a lower league.

 

To me the only way to counter this is to control other variables in the equation such as members of your team - ie Ranked Battles for Clans. Out of the 9 games I've played 2 games had AFKers.

 



psmobius1 #49 Posted 09 December 2016 - 05:06 PM

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Played several matches last night and yes you do kind of feel like a yo-yo bouncing up and down the ladder in your division but I've gone up more than I've gone down. The key here is to destroy as many as you can while quickly moving to the enemy cap! A win is the ultimate and only goal so no more of that "but, I can get more points if we kill them all". In this game mode giving up the chance to win by capping to try chasing down a couple guys will only net you a loss in points so just go for the win and move onto the next match.


 

In a perfect battle you would have a couple tanks roll up the flanks to deal with oncoming reds, a couple tanks defend our base from speedy cappers, and then the other few tanks bolt non-stop to the enemy base and secure the win.



YosemiteAnemone #50 Posted 09 December 2016 - 05:32 PM

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It feels like there is a "Nerf by League" being applied.

 

My first 6 battles I played V/IV and utterly slaughtered everything.   I carried my team every battle and finished in first in all but one of them.   That resulted in me making Platinum league.

 

The V/IV then proceeded to LOSE every platinum league battle, and BADLY.   I could almost never pen any red tanks anymore.   I could no longer spot snipers who had no trouble spotting me, even with camo and binos parked in a bush.

 

Lost about 15 in a row before switching to an OI-Exp.   Which seems to have no problem derping things to death.   Since pen isn't a factor.

 

So does anyone else feel like they're getting nerfed after reaching higher leagues?     Or did I just suddenly forget how to play?



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I personally think the rewards are to low... like the first rank in the ranked battles gives you 1 million silver but you can just play 5-10 matches in a tier 8 premium tank and get that much. Just don't seem worthwhile playing.

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View Postanglosaxon_33, on 09 December 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:

 

LOL! If you say so, idiot.

 

SovietDeath:  WN8 1759.77  Winrate 60.54%

anglosaxon_33:  WN8 2201.04  Winrate 56.71%

 

Looking at these numbers kinda reminds me that not everybody has the same goals in this game.  I'm glad WG is trying to give us the option of a game mode where winning is everything.


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Phobosfactor4 #53 Posted 09 December 2016 - 06:48 PM

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Tier 5 is fine, but the Chaffee should be excluded (i.e. me); I don't see more than 1 per side, but it seems to dominate. 

   You can have your VC tanks, I'll take the Yamato II because balance.


anglosaxon_33 #54 Posted 09 December 2016 - 07:16 PM

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View Postallhavoc, on 09 December 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:

 

SovietDeath:  WN8 1759.77  Winrate 60.54%

anglosaxon_33:  WN8 2201.04  Winrate 56.71%

 

Looking at these numbers kinda reminds me that not everybody has the same goals in this game.  I'm glad WG is trying to give us the option of a game mode where winning is everything.

 

I'd be more inclined to look at recent stats. That would show I throw everything possible into the match to get the win. Why play to simply lose?


 

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Won 3/5

Average damage 1.5k.

Gold League

 

6th game: Lost -1 pont Close game.

1.5k dmg

Last " Team mate" was AFK, clicked on GT playing BF GG. Thanks mate. 

 

7th game Win +45pts

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What league do team mates start to have thumbs? 

 


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Played over 50 matches in gold rank division but got no medal ??

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There should be full team based platoon system for this you always get the option of who is in your team for a competitive game mode, this is just who has the best luck or who has the most time at the moment

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The only thing I liked about the first iteration is that at least you couldn't drop out of a league - you could only move up. For the record, I got the "Conqueror" medal for playing this mode, so I did spend some time with it.

 

I remember that my position inside a league varied wildly. I hope they now at least provide more details on your scoring in the PBR - that would an important improvement to make in this mode. Otherwise, I have no understanding of what I need to do to gain points - "playing well" didn't seem to pay off consistently.

 

I'll probably try playing 10 games - if it feels less random, I may keep playing. Otherwise, back to main course.



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View PostmoosehaT o, on 09 December 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

What league do team mates start to have thumbs? 

 

We are playing against players ranked in each league and division. These test don't restrict which teammates and enemies in the match.







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