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ZOMBEH PIGLET #1 Posted 23 December 2016 - 08:10 PM

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I love my Chieftain, but it has some issues. Playing this tank as a sniper can be effective as the hull armor is thin but the turret can be as well. I've been in hull down locations and being repeatedly penatrated in the turret. 

I think an increase in turret armor would be needed and possibly increase in hull armor to 120. This would be similar to a tier 10 conqueror. 



Metalrodent #2 Posted 23 December 2016 - 09:17 PM

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The armour on it is a complete lie lol, sure you'll bounce some shots but tier X TDs/prem rounds go right through and the cupola gets hit far too often for such a small target.

 

Not to mention the painfully weak ammo rack (even with Stowage and Wet Ammo), you could cough on this thing and the ammo would get damaged.


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HappeningShrimp #3 Posted 23 December 2016 - 09:32 PM

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Play the tank differently then. If you're constantly getting penned in the turret and your ammo rack is getting damaged, it's your fault not the tanks. Not every tank in the tank can have ridiculously broken armor like the T110E5. 


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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 23 December 2016 - 09:32 PM, said:

Play the tank differently then. If you're constantly getting penned in the turret and your ammo rack is getting damaged, it's your fault not the tanks. Not every tank in the tank can have ridiculously broken armor like the T110E5. 

 

The entire purpose of the tank is to go hull down fyi, and yet doing so gets you penned pretty easily anyway.

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View PostMetalrodent, on 23 December 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

 

The entire purpose of the tank is to go hull down fyi, and yet doing so gets you penned pretty easily anyway.

 

Because you're probably peaking the exact spot over and over and not wiggling your turret in between shots. I've 3 marked the Chieftain, I know how to use it far better than you. Especially considering you've played all of 21 games in the tank.

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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 23 December 2016 - 09:47 PM, said:

 

Because you're probably peaking the exact spot over and over and not wiggling your turret in between shots. I've 3 marked the Chieftain, I know how to use it far better than you. Especially considering you've played all of 21 games in the tank.

 

Nice of you to go do some stat checking.

 

And yes I have barely played it, cause I have horrendous luck in it, even in a good spot all my shots seem to miss or bounce. I want to like it but it seems more trouble than it's worth.


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HappeningShrimp #7 Posted 23 December 2016 - 10:22 PM

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View PostMetalrodent, on 23 December 2016 - 10:07 PM, said:

 

Nice of you to go do some stat checking.

 

And yes I have barely played it, cause I have horrendous luck in it, even in a good spot all my shots seem to miss or bounce. I want to like it but it seems more trouble than it's worth.

 

I do that because almost always when someone is complaining about a tank, it's one they have very little experience using. Or, even more bluntly, they're just not very good at the game. In which case it's the player not the tank that's lacking something. 


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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 23 December 2016 - 09:47 PM, said:

 

Because you're probably peaking the exact spot over and over and not wiggling your turret in between shots. I've 3 marked the Chieftain, I know how to use it far better than you. Especially considering you've played all of 21 games in the tank.

 

alright bud no one likes a stat checker 

 

 


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View PostUnsoundDineen, on 23 December 2016 - 10:32 PM, said:

 

alright bud no one likes a stat checker 

 

Correction: No bad player likes a stat checker.

So, heaven forbid I check the one thing we have to show how good someone is at this game. And do the logical thing of saying that someone who has barely used the tank they're complaining about probably doesn't know enough on how to use the tank to make an accurate assessment of it.


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ZOMBEH PIGLET #10 Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:14 AM

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The cheif can be a beast don't get anything wrong but the strong turret is just weak the hull armor can stay but if you ever caught in a tough spot without 10 degrees of gun depression you are pretty much dead 

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Happening Shrimp. Your arrogant superiority is funny. So have you brought peace to the Middle East? Earnt a Nobel peace medal? Your a nothing loser as well. Your doing nothing with your life. You sicken me with your bully boy I'm better than you replies. NOTHING 

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View PostCobberdigga, on 24 December 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Happening Shrimp. Your arrogant superiority is funny. So have you brought peace to the Middle East? Earnt a Nobel peace medal? Your a nothing loser as well. Your doing nothing with your life. You sicken me with your bully boy I'm better than you replies. NOTHING 

 

At least I'm educated enough to know the difference between your and you're. Also, it's earned. Learn proper grammar and spelling if you're going to try insult somebody. You'll end up looking a lot less foolish. 

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I love the chiefee , I find people pen the sloped part right above the gun more than the hatch. The hatch is very hard to hit when played right! 

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You are so nearly clever. Let's start with the Ammunition Rack. Too many syllables for you? Not Ammo. DER! It seems the only numeral you can spell is one. TWENTY-ONE and this bit doesn't make sense

 I've 3 marked the Chieftain

go blow bubbles ya Nothin. wthlol BRB etc. You don't feel foolish. You are foolish and petty. Far Q Richard Cranium. Lol



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i love it as well and I'm pretty good in it 

 

 


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View PostCobberdigga, on 24 December 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

You are so nearly clever. Let's start with the Ammunition Rack. Too many syllables for you? Not Ammo. DER! It seems the only numeral you can spell is one. TWENTY-ONE and this bit doesn't make sense

 I've 3 marked the Chieftain

go blow bubbles ya Nothin. wthlol BRB etc. You don't feel foolish. You are foolish and petty. Far Q Richard Cranium. Lol

 

why are you acting like this lol

 

 


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View PostCobberdigga, on 24 December 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

You are so nearly clever. Let's start with the Ammunition Rack. Too many syllables for you? Not Ammo. DER! It seems the only numeral you can spell is one. TWENTY-ONE and this bit doesn't make sense

 I've 3 marked the Chieftain

go blow bubbles ya Nothin. wthlol BRB etc. You don't feel foolish. You are foolish and petty. Far Q Richard Cranium. Lol

 

you ain't even got.the chieftain haha I smell [edited]

 

 


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View PostCobberdigga, on 24 December 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

You are so nearly clever. Let's start with the Ammunition Rack. Too many syllables for you? Not Ammo. DER! It seems the only numeral you can spell is one. TWENTY-ONE and this bit doesn't make sense

 I've 3 marked the Chieftain

go blow bubbles ya Nothin. wthlol BRB etc. You don't feel foolish. You are foolish and petty. Far Q Richard Cranium. Lol

 

You've 3 marked exactly 0 tanks, and with your skill level you'll never 3 mark anything. And with whatever word vomit you can't seem to contain, even through a forum, it's a wonder you manage to breath in between the constant stream of nonsense that comes out of you. 

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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 24 December 2016 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

You've 3 marked exactly 0 tanks, and with your skill level you'll never 3 mark anything. And with whatever word vomit you can't seem to contain, even through a forum, it's a wonder you manage to breath in between the constant stream of nonsense that comes out of you. 

 

Trust :teethhappy:guy is a joke

 

 


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Just to say this clear:The overall package of this tank is simply too weak!

Precision is very good, but the low alpha can not compensate the weak hull that can easily be penetrated by any tier 8. In addition a very exposed ammo rack. The tank gets spotted fast, often this means good bye.

I have no clue why there is a WTE100 with a ridiculous strong autoloader gun on  one side, and a chieftain with similar weak hull on the other with (almost) nothing to compensate.

Even though this does not mean it has no chance, but it is just not balanced.






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