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J Wales Outlaw #21 Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:56 AM

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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 23 December 2016 - 03:32 PM, said:

Play the tank differently then. If you're constantly getting penned in the turret and your ammo rack is getting damaged, it's your fault not the tanks. Not every tank in the tank can have ridiculously broken armor like the T110E5. 

 

E5 gets ammo racked constantly as well ....mine does and the ones I shoot at do.  Does it bounce frontally? Yep but when it doesn't it's ammo rack time. That said there are very few situations where a chieftain makes more sense than an E5

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The Chieftan is coolio with a lot of strengths and some big glaring weaknesses - hopefully when I have 25k matches under my belt like HappeningCrabs I will figure this [edited]of a tank out.  As a medium driver I thought this thing would be a dream come true but alas I suck with it back to my M48A1

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View PostJ Wales Outlaw, on 06 January 2017 - 04:02 AM, said:

The Chieftan is coolio with a lot of strengths and some big glaring weaknesses - hopefully when I have 25k matches under my belt like HappeningCrabs I will figure this [edited]of a tank out.  As a medium driver I thought this thing would be a dream come true but alas I suck with it back to my M48A1

 

You could have 25 million battles, with how you play it wouldn't make a difference. 

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Tier 10: T110E5, T110E4, E 100, Chieftain Mk. 6, Centurion Action X, 113 Tier 9: ST-I, E75, M103, Conqueror, M46 Patton, E50, T-54, Leopard PT A Tier 8: IS-3, M6A2E1, KV-5, FCM 50t, 112, Centennial T95, Motherland, Legion 59-Patton, Pershing Tier 7: M41 Bulldog Tier 6: Cromwell, Fury


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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 23 December 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

 

Correction: No bad player likes a stat checker.

So, heaven forbid I check the one thing we have to show how good someone is at this game. And do the logical thing of saying that someone who has barely used the tank they're complaining about probably doesn't know enough on how to use the tank to make an accurate assessment of it.

 

actually no, its the way you come across....I wont say it because it would most likely get me either a warning or a ban but I'm sure you can use your imagination. It is easy as all sin to be rude on the forums, its much harder to try to be constructive and interact with someone respectfully. I am just as guilty as the next fellow, so I am not accusing you of something that I may not have done myself but it helps if you try to be civil when you "speak" with someone on these forums. It goes a lot further than the rude way.

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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 06 January 2017 - 06:09 AM, said:

 

You could have 25 million battles, with how you play it wouldn't make a difference. 

 

Lol, grow up.


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View PostMetalrodent, on 23 December 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

 

The entire purpose of the tank is to go hull down fyi, and yet doing so gets you penned pretty easily anyway.

 

​ok i dont have a lot of games in the chief as i like the 215b and the 7/1 better so if anyone wants to stat shame go ahead and this isnt directed at the guy i quoted its just a non insanely ranting post that makes a good point badly.

any way from my experience of british turrets they work much better when angled back, eg when poking a ridge rather than on the flat or nose down behind a wall or whatever. judging from the shape and armour profile of the chieftains turret i would say getting the nose up was critical in making best use of the turret.

re: ammmmmo racks, its british, what did you expect?



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My experience: chieftain I would not recommend to buy after my experiences and comparison with my other tier X heavy tanks. Even some tier IX and maybe VIII are better than this one. Chieftain is fast and has good gun, but armor is incredibly soft, like made of paper (again, compared with other tanks, even tier(s) lower, e. g. E75,..) T110E5 is much, much better.

I would even say there must be some mistake in desing, it can´t happen this tank is so easy to destroy... I am dissapointed by it.



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View PostJoseph270965, on 10 January 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

My experience: chieftain I would not recommend to buy after my experiences and comparison with my other tier X heavy tanks. Even some tier IX and maybe VIII are better than this one. Chieftain is fast and has good gun, but armor is incredibly soft, like made of paper (again, compared with other tanks, even tier(s) lower, e. g. E75,..) T110E5 is much, much better.

I would even say there must be some mistake in desing, it can´t happen this tank is so easy to destroy... I am dissapointed by it.

 

I feel the same, too bad it will never get a buff because WG won't even read these post.

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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 24 December 2016 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

You've 3 marked exactly 0 tanks, and with your skill level you'll never 3 mark anything. And with whatever word vomit you can't seem to contain, even through a forum, it's a wonder you manage to breath in between the constant stream of nonsense that comes out of you. 

 

Maybe he is mixing markes with number of battles, because he fought 3 battles with chieftain :)...

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View PostHuskyLINK, on 11 January 2017 - 07:27 AM, said:

 

I feel the same, too bad it will never get a buff because WG won't even read these post.

 

It won't get a buff because it doesn't need one. 

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Tier 10: T110E5, T110E4, E 100, Chieftain Mk. 6, Centurion Action X, 113 Tier 9: ST-I, E75, M103, Conqueror, M46 Patton, E50, T-54, Leopard PT A Tier 8: IS-3, M6A2E1, KV-5, FCM 50t, 112, Centennial T95, Motherland, Legion 59-Patton, Pershing Tier 7: M41 Bulldog Tier 6: Cromwell, Fury


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View PostElCrazyMexDeuce, on 06 January 2017 - 01:28 AM, said:

actually no, its the way you come across....

 

Well, he didn't came across as arrogant to me. He just used some hard data to analyze a complaint - there is nothing wrong with that.

 

I am also suspicious of players whose post count is larger than their battle count. Am I arrogant too for looking at those stats?



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View PostAelgyn, on 12 January 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

 

Well, he didn't came across as arrogant to me. He just used some hard data to analyze a complaint - there is nothing wrong with that.

 

I am also suspicious of players whose post count is larger than their battle count. Am I arrogant too for looking at those stats?

 

Yes, didn't you know using stats and looking how players perform on a consisent basis is the worst possible thing you can do on the forums? It makes all the people who used to be able say they could beat you with no information to back it up angry, because now stats are all online and readily available for anyone to see. 

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Tier 10: T110E5, T110E4, E 100, Chieftain Mk. 6, Centurion Action X, 113 Tier 9: ST-I, E75, M103, Conqueror, M46 Patton, E50, T-54, Leopard PT A Tier 8: IS-3, M6A2E1, KV-5, FCM 50t, 112, Centennial T95, Motherland, Legion 59-Patton, Pershing Tier 7: M41 Bulldog Tier 6: Cromwell, Fury


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I have had issues with commanders hatch on top of the turret as well. I got penned by a tier 8 t28 prototype with the stock gun while it was angled. Yet i cannot pen a chieftain in the same spot with my chieftain sometimes.

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View PostPaRa Quickz, on 13 January 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:

I have had issues with commanders hatch on top of the turret as well. I got penned by a tier 8 t28 prototype with the stock gun while it was angled. Yet i cannot pen a chieftain in the same spot with my chieftain sometimes.

 

You can blame that on RNG, the commanders hatch has extremely weak armor that most tier 7s will pen without a problem. But it's made up for with best in class gun handling across the board. It's a trade off you have to deal with when you get a gun that's better than all heavies and almost, if not every medium of any tier. 

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Tier 10: T110E5, T110E4, E 100, Chieftain Mk. 6, Centurion Action X, 113 Tier 9: ST-I, E75, M103, Conqueror, M46 Patton, E50, T-54, Leopard PT A Tier 8: IS-3, M6A2E1, KV-5, FCM 50t, 112, Centennial T95, Motherland, Legion 59-Patton, Pershing Tier 7: M41 Bulldog Tier 6: Cromwell, Fury


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The gun is magnificent.

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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 12 January 2017 - 06:22 AM, said:

 

It won't get a buff because it doesn't need one. 

 

Neither did the t110e5, and your opinion won't change my opinion on this. Also I like to point out that you seem to be trolling anyone who thinks otherwise. :teethhappy:

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View PostMetalrodent, on 23 December 2016 - 10:07 PM, said:

 

Nice of you to go do some stat checking.

 

And yes I have barely played it, cause I have horrendous luck in it, even in a good spot all my shots seem to miss or bounce. I want to like it but it seems more trouble than it's worth.

 

Did you just get stat shamed?? :facepalm: FML

 

 

Also I think the Hitbox on the Cupola is far too big for a target so small.


Edited by WidowMaker1711, 13 January 2017 - 10:53 PM.

For Russ and the Allfather

 

 


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View PostHuskyLINK, on 13 January 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

 

Neither did the t110e5, and your opinion won't change my opinion on this. Also I like to point out that you seem to be trolling anyone who thinks otherwise. :teethhappy:

 

How exactly is saying that a great tank is great trolling? The fact that you can't just bull rush in like you can in the E5, E100, Maus, IS-4 and IS-7 doesn't make it bad. It just has a significantly higher skill gap than those tanks do. That fact doesn't mean it's bad, it just means bad players will have a much harder time doing well in it. 

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Tier 10: T110E5, T110E4, E 100, Chieftain Mk. 6, Centurion Action X, 113 Tier 9: ST-I, E75, M103, Conqueror, M46 Patton, E50, T-54, Leopard PT A Tier 8: IS-3, M6A2E1, KV-5, FCM 50t, 112, Centennial T95, Motherland, Legion 59-Patton, Pershing Tier 7: M41 Bulldog Tier 6: Cromwell, Fury


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View PostHappeningShrimp, on 14 January 2017 - 01:08 AM, said:

 

How exactly is saying that a great tank is great trolling? The fact that you can't just bull rush in like you can in the E5, E100, Maus, IS-4 and IS-7 doesn't make it bad. It just has a significantly higher skill gap than those tanks do. That fact doesn't mean it's bad, it just means bad players will have a much harder time doing well in it. 

Double standard's much?:child:



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View PostHuskyLINK, on 14 January 2017 - 02:07 AM, said:

Double standard's much?:child:

 

How exactly is what I said a double standard? The AMX 50b is another great example of what I was talking about. An amazing tank, but in the wrong hands it's completely useless.

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Tier 10: T110E5, T110E4, E 100, Chieftain Mk. 6, Centurion Action X, 113 Tier 9: ST-I, E75, M103, Conqueror, M46 Patton, E50, T-54, Leopard PT A Tier 8: IS-3, M6A2E1, KV-5, FCM 50t, 112, Centennial T95, Motherland, Legion 59-Patton, Pershing Tier 7: M41 Bulldog Tier 6: Cromwell, Fury





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