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Buff The 7,5cm L/100 (Panther I/II top guns)

Panther II Panther I Buffs Poll

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Poll: Should the 7,5cm L/100 be buffed? (31 members have cast votes)

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Should the 7,5cm L/100 be buffed? If so, by how much? The guns current DPM is 1687.5

  1. 150 alpha up from 135 (1875 dpm) (20 votes [64.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.52%

  2. 145 alpha up from 135 (1812.5 dpm) (1 vote [3.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

  3. 140 alpha up from 135 and RoF increased to 13.20 up from 12.50 RPM (1848 dpm) (2 votes [6.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.45%

  4. 140 alpha up from 135 and aimtime decrease to 2.00 down from 2.30 (1750 dpm) (1 vote [3.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

  5. Both answer 3 and 4 combined (3 votes [9.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  6. No buff needed (4 votes [12.90%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.90%

  7. Other/Own buff idea (Write you answer down below) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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RaNdOmKiLs666 #1 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:37 AM

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The gun is sorely lacking at tier 7 and 8, so i reckon it needs a bit of a improvement. Both these tanks are sniping mediums with accurate guns, but they have terrible alpha per shot and the high firerate doesn't resolve this issue. The DPM is horrible for both these tanks and i think a weapon buff could go along way even if it's only a moderate improvement. I voted for the 150 alpha, so the gun has a bit more of a bite to it, atm tanks can eat loads of shots from this gun before dying to it and the Panther historically was feared, but in this game most people treat it like an exp pool. 

 

I would like to point out the UK 17pounder is a 76.2mm, yet it hits for 150 alpha and has similar stats (aimtime,firerate and accuracy) to the 7,5cm L/100.

Can a mod pass this thread on to the devs for a response?

 

Post your thoughts below.

 

 



yota151 #2 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:49 AM

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It wouldn't hurt to buff it its really suffered from the power creep of all the other mediums the same tier.
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RaNdOmKiLs666 #3 Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:06 AM

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View Postyota151, on 05 March 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

It wouldn't hurt to buff it its really suffered from the power creep of all the other mediums the same tier.

Exactly.



RaNdOmKiLs666 #4 Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:39 PM

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I hope this suggestion gets passed on and implemented. The panther tanks have been largely power creeped.

PLK180W #5 Posted 06 March 2017 - 02:02 PM

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Could even be an argument for the Panther I to have the option to use the 88/L56 with the Scmalturm.
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RaNdOmKiLs666 #6 Posted 08 March 2017 - 01:12 AM

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View PostPLK180W, on 07 March 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Could even be an argument for the Panther I to have the option to use the 88/L56 with the Scmalturm.

 

That is a possibility, however i doubt WG would be willing to do that.

Edited by RaNdOmKiLs666, 08 March 2017 - 01:14 AM.


PLK180W #7 Posted 08 March 2017 - 01:52 PM

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Only reason I turned down the KraftPanther was that L/I00

View PostRaNdOmKiLs666, on 08 March 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

 

That is a possibility, however i doubt WG would be willing to do that.

 

Don't see why not, the VK30.02D has the option between the 75/L70 and the 88L/56  at the same tier.


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Zxyphos #8 Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:01 AM

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Even if they have to reduce accuracy or give the gun a slower reload in order to increase damage. I realize some great players do well in it, but I just struggle. It is, by far, my favourite tank I could never play for dirt. I revisited the tank recently and, lol and behold, I still can't play it.

RaNdOmKiLs666 #9 Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:17 AM

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It's a absolute joke the E50 can mount this gun as well. A tier 9 doing 135 damage LOL.

Zxyphos #10 Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:30 PM

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View PostRaNdOmKiLs666, on 12 March 2017 - 10:17 PM, said:

It's a absolute joke the E50 can mount this gun as well. A tier 9 doing 135 damage LOL.

 

I remember that grind. 

Dussy86 #11 Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:26 AM

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Suggest you read the PC patch notes for 9.17.1 http://worldoftanks.com/en/content/docs/9171-updatenotes/ released 23/2/17, lots of changes for power creeped older tanks, console hopefully will follow in a couple of months.

Panther Dpm=2025 via reload rate 

Panther II gets 8.8 L/100

 



RaNdOmKiLs666 #12 Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:25 AM

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View PostDussy86, on 15 March 2017 - 07:26 PM, said:

Suggest you read the PC patch notes for 9.17.1 http://worldoftanks.com/en/content/docs/9171-updatenotes/ released 23/2/17, lots of changes for power creeped older tanks, console hopefully will follow in a couple of months.

Panther Dpm=2025 via reload rate 

Panther II gets 8.8 L/100

 

Nice. I hope to see these changes applied to console at some point.



RaNdOmKiLs666 #13 Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:34 PM

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I get the feeling this thread would get more attention in general discussion then it does here. 

 

EDIT: btw i'm really hoping this change is considered. The only reason i haven't bought my Panther II yet is because how dissatisfied i was with the Panther I. It's not just the gun i didn't like, but the terrible camouflage value as well. I wanted a mobile sniper medium and got a somewhat sluggish, low camo, mediocre armed, dud of a tank. WG make these tanks good, not op, but good. They're pretty underpowered atm.


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