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Databoi416 #1 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:37 PM

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Hey guys, quick question aout WN8. First of all, yes I have been to the non-responsive/time-out wiki page and yes I have gone to google, but  cant seem to find a clear answer or a link that doesnt point to the wiki which wont load for me in Canada.

 

So here it goes, does WN8 factor in the number of battles/percentage of battles played in a given tank to determine the global WN8 average? I know that the global average is not just a flat average of all your individual WN8 values per tank and that it will factor in the expected value across all battles before feeding your total numbers on a given tank into the formula, but to better elaborate on what Im asking allow me to give you a very simple example of what im hoping to confirm is part of the calculation:

 

If TANK A  = 1000 battles @ 2000 WN8

while

TANK B = 10 battles @ 100 WN8

TANK C = 10 battles @ 100 WN8

 

would the global average of those be an average of the end result or would it be weighed against the total number of battles before averaging values against each other? I know its not a flat average of end WN8 because of the way it sums all data VS expected values before spitting out the number already, which is why im wondering how deep it goes. 

 

To clarify on what im getting at with this, in an effort to be as detailed as possible and hopefully get a straight answer, do I need to go back and play all my tech tree grind/line junk to a respectable average in order to ever hope to get a good WN8? OR can i stay the course on tanks im good/comfortable with and eventually just bury the bad ones in comparison in roughly the same amount of time?

 

 



Y5O5ER1U5 #2 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:40 PM

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You dont "need" to go back.

wn8 will rise as long as you pull in damage numbers in any tank greater than your current overall.


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Databoi416 #3 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:43 PM

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View PostY5O5ER1U5, on 06 March 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

You dont "need" to go back.

wn8 will rise as long as you pull in numbers greater than your current overall.

 

But will be it be hopelessly anchored to those bottom feeder stats from early game, or will it have the same potential as long as I grind better than expected value battles in tanks that suit my play style?

Y5O5ER1U5 #4 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:47 PM

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Those earlier tanks will not hold you back.


3 MOES

Light Tanks: 28.01 ***,  LTTB ***, M41 Bulldog ***, SP1C ***, WZ-131 ***, RU ***, T-54 LTWT ***, WZ-132***

Med Tanks: Cromwell ***, Skoda T-25***,  30.01(D) ***, 30.02(D) ***, Indien ***, Leo PTA ***

Heavy Tanks: 36.01(H) ***, Tiger 1 ***, IS-3 ***

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Databoi416 #5 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:48 PM

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View PostY5O5ER1U5, on 06 March 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

You dont "need" to go back.

wn8 will rise as long as you pull in damage numbers in any tank greater than your current overall.

 

Nvm, i think I get what you're saying. Amazing. Thank you. 

timh18 #6 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:52 PM

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But don't worry about WN8, just have fun!!!

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View Posttimh18, on 06 March 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

But don't worry about WN8, just have fun!!!

 

Worrying about wn8 is having fun

3 MOES

Light Tanks: 28.01 ***,  LTTB ***, M41 Bulldog ***, SP1C ***, WZ-131 ***, RU ***, T-54 LTWT ***, WZ-132***

Med Tanks: Cromwell ***, Skoda T-25***,  30.01(D) ***, 30.02(D) ***, Indien ***, Leo PTA ***

Heavy Tanks: 36.01(H) ***, Tiger 1 ***, IS-3 ***

5ER1U5 guide for the wz-132


Databoi416 #8 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:57 PM

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View Posttimh18, on 06 March 2017 - 11:52 PM, said:

But don't worry about WN8, just have fun!!!

 

I dont know what this means, everything with me has to be a neurotic competition.

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View PostDataboi416, on 06 March 2017 - 05:57 PM, said:

 

I dont know what this means, everything with me has to be a neurotic competition.

It's true that those tanks will not hold you back, but that bright red stain will eat at your very being until you go back and fix them. 



Saerbhreathach #10 Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:26 AM

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View PostDataboi416, on 06 March 2017 - 08:13 PM, said:

 

But will be it be hopelessly anchored to those bottom feeder stats from early game, or will it have the same potential as long as I grind better than expected value battles in tanks that suit my play style?

 

 

You just gotta pull away from your "learning phase" is all. As you improve and pull in better numbers your stats will rise. :)



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Stay the course. Speaking from experience. 

 

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VoltaicGrunt #12 Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:32 AM

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Yes that's how stats work. Go back and grind every tank to the required colour. Won't take long as you probably only have a few games in them. 

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TocFanKe4 #13 Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:53 AM

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It's a aggregate statistic. To simplify the expansion, they take all the games you've played in every tank, and multiply it by the expected damage, spots, kills, ECT. Then they add up all the damage, kills, ect you've actually done and compare the two. That gives you your WN8. 

 

It is not an average of your tanks. It's an aggregate. 


 

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To answer your question, no, you don't need to go back and play those tanks. The fastest way to make your WN8 go up is to play tier X tanks at a high level.

 

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SpartanFire71 #15 Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:06 AM

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Stay the course, but if you want later down the road, then get back in the old tanks that you'd like to try having much more experience.

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View PostDataboi416, on 06 March 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

I dont know what this means, everything with me has to be a neurotic competition.

 

I hear ya. 


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Databoi416 #17 Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:23 AM

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Thanks Guys! Appreciate the help. 

xlordkarnagex #18 Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:57 AM

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Why do people even care about wn8?

I'll never understand it, it's just a game.


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View Postxlordkarnagex, on 06 March 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

Why do people even care about wn8?

I'll never understand it, it's just a game.

 

Why do people care about the playoffs and a state championship in HS or national championship in college?  It's just a game.

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Goals, that's why wn8 is a useful metric. 

I want to hit green wn8 in the next couple weeks for instance, blue within a month? Idk, I check my progress and since I discovered wotinfo I've increased my k/d and damage caused/received and kills per battle by nearly 0.2 across the board. Modest improvement, but measurable improvement nonetheless.


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