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SGT Hawkens117 #1 Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:24 PM

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I feel the chieftains hull armor should be buffed 

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No, that's not the point of the tank.

 

 

 

 


x Der Meister x #3 Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:51 PM

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I'm no expert..but I feel the turret should be further reinforced.

 

The hull armor would be acceptable if the turret had less weakspots. 

 

Again, just my opinion. ;)


 


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View Postx Der Meister x, on 19 March 2017 - 10:51 PM, said:

I'm no expert..but I feel the turret should be further reinforced.

 

The hull armor would be acceptable if the turret had less weakspots. 

 

Again, just my opinion. ;)

 

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I feel the turret could do with a few minor improvements, it's littered with weakspots and the cupola seems to get hit from cross map, plus tier X prem rounds rip straight through the top anyway. Then you have like the E5 which has an invincible cupola and no easy weakspot.

 

A slight ammo rack buff would be great too, you only have to sneeze and it takes damage lol.


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View PostNukaColaLlama, on 19 March 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

No, that's not the point of the tank.

Well if would be nice if it had 120mm of hull armor like it did in real life 



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nerf?

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It's going to be hard to argue for a buff to one of the highest performing tier 10 heavies. Especially given it performs more or less on par statistically with the T110E5. But yeah it would be nice if the upper plate didn't only work when using your gun depression. 

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View PostTempest fox3, on 19 March 2017 - 11:24 PM, said:

It's going to be hard to argue for a buff to one of the highest performing tier 10 heavies. Especially given it performs more or less on par statistically with the T110E5. But yeah it would be nice if the upper plate didn't only work when using your gun depression. 

It's the Achilles heel of the tank it can fight on hills but if you are in urban maps or on flat terrain it is almost useless.



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Never played one but I've played against them. It doesn't need any help in the armor department. When played right they can be exceedingly difficult to face head on

I understand they're best played more like mediums.

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Theres no way this thing should get an armor buff with the insane fire rate it has currently.

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View PostSGT Hawkens117, on 19 March 2017 - 11:06 PM, said:

Well if would be nice if it had 120mm of hull armor like it did in real life 

 

Fun fact.

There are no officially published figures for the armour thickness for the Chieftain of any Mk. The thing is still secret to a degree, which poses some issues.

The closest thing is a Russian source, and espionage is often incorrect on these matters.

 

I know that WG did scan both the P6 (pre-production prototype pre-dating the Mk 1) and the Mk 6 (which was mislabeled as the MK 2, and the reason why we have the Mk 6), and the results were apparently less than people were expecting. Seems like it was only 85mm, although the usual methods were having issues with the shape of the hull (and turret).

The Conqueror and Centurion Action X turret (which is still extant) had the same issues as well, hence why the Conqueror got a super buff a while back.

 

In my opinion, the Chieftain doesn't need a buff. Apparently, it's quite highly performing, so it's unlikely to get any either.


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View PostHailofSteel, on 19 March 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

Theres no way this thing should get an armor buff with the insane fire rate it has currently.

Rate of fire doesn't matter if it's a glass cannon and its ammo is hit a lot. Also yes  it does need the buff I literally just had a game where I was hull down and a shell some how penned the front plate.



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View PostBrogueOne, on 19 March 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

Never played one but I've played against them. It doesn't need any help in the armor department. When played right they can be exceedingly difficult to face head on

I understand they're best played more like mediums.

 

It's only difficult to face if it's fighting on a ridgeline using it's gun depression. Draw it out onto the flat and you can have your wicked way with it. 

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It seems to be generally alright imo. If anything buff the turret of the Action X (and give the brazil AP pls)

jkblackhawk #17 Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:16 AM

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Yes buff the chieftains armor and the action x armor And make it so they can cream autoloaders and what's that waffle autoloader something those are awful...!

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It's labeled as a heavy tank but that is not necessarily the role it fills. It is an MBT first and foremost. It is more comparable to some mediums in the game than many heavies. That's why I said hull armor is not really the point of this tank. 

 

 

 

 


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I forgot make them both faster

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View PostPerfect Dark 51, on 20 March 2017 - 12:13 AM, said:

(and give the brazil AP pls)

 

Its actual APFSDS-T are rather rubbish in the context of WoT.






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