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CussingTortoise #1 Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:19 PM

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Buddy has a bunch of 6x crew xp ops. Is it better for crew training to run through all the daily 2x's with the 6x ops. Or run the T-34-88/black tanks with the 6x ops. 

 

Basicly I'm asking for the order of operations. Is the 6x added to the base xp, after the daily 2x, or after the premium tank bonuses?

 

I wasn't able to find any post on this matter, I vaguely remember one months ago. So if there is a post regarding this please point me in the right direction.

 

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Probably the 34-88 and black tanks, because the boost op is used regardless of how well the particular game went.

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Why not run the 34-88/Black tanks on their x2 with the boost op activated? 

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View PostF4NA7IC, on 20 March 2017 - 04:13 PM, said:

Why not run the 34-88/Black tanks on their x2 with the boost op activated? 

 

Right, that is optimal but after the 2x are gone is it better to run the other Russian premiums or continue using the 6x ops on the t-34-88/black tank?

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Keep using the t-34-88 and the black tanks it's much more efficient that way

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JelliedPenny08 #6 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:37 PM

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Depends on the tank, I assume you mean other premiums not TT tanks. More importantly it depends on how well you (or he) play in the black tanks vs other premiums. 

Black IS-6 battle:- 

100 Base Xp

75 premium Xp 

500 boost Xp

675 TOTAL XP  once you add it all together. 

 

Churchill 3 battle:- 

100 Base XP, 

78 Premium Xp, 

500 boost Xp 

678 TOTAL XP  once all added up. 

 

For each example you would get another 100XP for you daily x2 First Win boost. Making it 775 vs 778 XP. Churchill 3 has a really high multiplier too like the Black tanks. 

 

But if you get 1000XP in the battle because you do well in one of those tanks, that makes a far bigger difference (6,750 vs 6,780 XP). Daily x2 bonuses probably aren't consistent across lots of different tanks, but will help. Pick premiums with high % XP multipliers and do x2 in those first. To use boosts you want consistently good results most of all.  

 

If anything isn't clear ask and I'll try to explain more/ better.  I hope it helps.  :)

 

**Edit - TLDR - Base XP is king, then x2, then premium tank multiplier %. But to get the best you want to combine them first and then go with high consistent performance. 


Edited by JelliedPenny08, 20 March 2017 - 11:46 PM.


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View PostCussingTortoise, on 20 March 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

Buddy has a bunch of 6x crew xp ops. Is it better for crew training to run through all the daily 2x's with the 6x ops. Or run the T-34-88/black tanks with the 6x ops. 

 

Basicly I'm asking for the order of operations. Is the 6x added to the base xp, after the daily 2x, or after the premium tank bonuses?

 

I wasn't able to find any post on this matter, I vaguely remember one months ago. So if there is a post regarding this please point me in the right direction.

 

Thanks.

 

What I think your real questions are: 

1)  Do the 6x Crew xps stack with daily doubles?  (effective base 12x OR base 2x + base 6x?) 

 

2)  How does a Black Tank/T-34-88 without a daily double compare to another premium with a daily doubled--given the same amount of base xp?

 

Here is a link to Max Chaos' XP calculator:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!...R8noucuT5JsxDkP

 

I would guess it is a matter of time--obviously doubles on black tanks are best.  How fast do you want to march this crew up?  I would guess the doubles on other premiums, particularly the Churchill III, would be better than a non-double on a black tank--but it may not be much.  The other thing to consider is using a 6x Crew boost on a loosing match--better in black/T-34-88/Churchill III or others? 

 

 

 

 


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CussingTortoise #8 Posted 21 March 2017 - 12:26 AM

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View PostGallant Prime, on 20 March 2017 - 05:01 PM, said:

 

What I think your real questions are: 

1)  Do the 6x Crew xps stack with daily doubles?  (effective base 12x OR base 2x + base 6x?) 

 

2)  How does a Black Tank/T-34-88 without a daily double compare to another premium with a daily doubled--given the same amount of base xp?

 

Here is a link to Max Chaos' XP calculator:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!...R8noucuT5JsxDkP

 

I would guess it is a matter of time--obviously doubles on black tanks are best.  How fast do you want to march this crew up?  I would guess the doubles on other premiums, particularly the Churchill III, would be better than a non-double on a black tank--but it may not be much.  The other thing to consider is using a 6x Crew boost on a loosing match--better in black/T-34-88/Churchill III or others? 

 

 

 

 

1) Yes, exactly. If it does stack then it's a no-brainer doing the daily 2x and 6x crew xp is the best way. No matter the tank. 

 

2) Yes and this comes down to if the 6x op is applied before or after the premium tank boosts. If it's applied directly to the base xp then this whole discussion is a bit moot. 

 

I suppose what I'm asking is the most efficient use of the limited 6x boost ops. 

 

Unfortunately I'm at work so it might take a while to work out the excel on my phone. Thanks for the link I will definatly check it out when I get home.



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View PostCussingTortoise, on 21 March 2017 - 12:26 AM, said:

1) Yes, exactly. If it does stack then it's a no-brainer doing the daily 2x and 6x crew xp is the best way. No matter the tank. 

 

2) Yes and this comes down to if the 6x op is applied before or after the premium tank boosts. If it's applied directly to the base xp then this whole discussion is a bit moot. 

 

I suppose what I'm asking is the most efficient use of the limited 6x boost ops. 

 

Unfortunately I'm at work so it might take a while to work out the excel on my phone. Thanks for the link I will definatly check it out when I get home.

 

Sorry didn't explain that.

1. They don't stack like x12. They are additive not multipliers. 

x2 is +100%

x6 is +500%

Both together on a 1k XP battle is 

1k Base + 1k (x2 boost) + 5k (x6 boost) = 7,000 Total XP

 

2.  Specific tanks to ignore Churchill 3 use USA T14 is 45% T34 Black is 75%. If you put a 100% trained crew into both, with no skills you'll probably do better at tier 5 than 8 because you will have less of a handicap.  

1000XP battle in the T14 is the same bonus as a 600XP game inthe T34B. Both premium bonus is 450 XP. The x6 boost is 500% though which is 5k XP in the T14, but only 3k XP in the T34.

 

T14.good battle   1000 Base + 5000 Boost + 450 Tank = 6450

T34 bad battle.     600 Base + 3000 Boost + 450 Tank = 4050

 

That is the difference between winning in the T14 and losing a battle in the T34. Or coming top at tier 5 or middle at tier 8. To use boosts you want to do well first and worry about the tank bonus second. 


Edited by JelliedPenny08, 21 March 2017 - 01:21 AM.


JelliedPenny08 #10 Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:52 AM

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One more and I'll stop. 

In the above example with the T34 Black even having the x2 First win and a higher premium tank bonus doesn't make up for doing badly. Doubling your 600 Base XP only gives you 600 more to take you to 4650 XP. 

 

Sorry you want to know which tank to use. Whichever you do consistently well in. If you're going to get good in a tank, make it one with bonuses. The silver earning of Black tanks might improve your performance through consumable use. 

 

Try it without boosts first and check your log for the tanks you are considering. The extra battles will improve your crew anyway. Do more than 10 battles and see how much xp you get per tank. 



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Thanks JelledPenny08 you answered my questions perfectly. 





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