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Chr15py #1 Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:25 PM

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Hi WG staff. 

 

Any news on when the older premium workhorses will be brought up to date? There is currently an issue with older tanks being completely made redundant by all the newer tanks bing introduced into the game - aka powercreep. 

 

Pain said they would be looked at but we've not had anything since. Kind of stops people want to spend money if their virtual tank become effectively nerfed by buffing everything else.

 

examples?

Matilda BP - slow. Too slow. Meets OI tanks which can one shot. Is slower than said OI 130+ tonne tanks up an incline or on flat ground. 

 

Super Pershing - still a good tank but has been buffed on PC. With the newer tanks coming in all with higher pen, the "it has armour" reply is no longer relevant. 

 

There are loads more. It would be nice to find out what's happening and the only way we will is if WG developers let us know. I have a massive list to Raibot a few months back so they've had feedback 

 

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korbendallas-01 #2 Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:42 PM

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View PostChr15py, on 19 April 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

Any news on when the older premium workhorses will be brought up to date? There is currently an issue with older tanks being completely made redundant by all the newer tanks bing introduced into the game - aka powercreep.

 

Correct description of the situation, but a horrible proposal for a solution.

 

Nerf the new tanks, and give a pay cut to the person who was responsible for the op tank.



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SP is near the top of my list for tanks that need some love.  T14 and excelsior are a couple more.

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Add the Pz T-25(t) and PzIIJ to the "To Do" list.
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Chr15py #5 Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:34 PM

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WG - Raibot or Max. Any feedback on this?

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Chr15py #6 Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:33 PM

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WG - any feedback? Come on guys. Share some information.

 

at least acknowledge that you've seen this lol

 

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killer etzi0 #7 Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:36 PM

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View PostChr15py, on 20 April 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

WG - any feedback? Come on guys. Share some information.

 

at least acknowledge that you've seen this lol

 

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You forgot to send a case of Vodka to the staff when making this request, it always speeds up the response time. :child:


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Chr15py #8 Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:38 PM

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View Postkiller etzi0, on 20 April 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

You forgot to send a case of Vodka to the staff when making this request, it always speeds up the response time. :child:

 

sadly if there was a case of Vodka here, nothing would get to them anyway as if smash my way through it lol

 

i love a good vodka! :)

 

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As soon as thw T26E5 makes it's way to WoT Console they need to add the T34 to. The list too.

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View PostChr15py, on 20 April 2017 - 07:34 AM, said:

WG - Raibot or Max. Any feedback on this?

Chris

 

View PostChr15py, on 20 April 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

WG - any feedback? Come on guys. Share some information.

 

at least acknowledge that you've seen this lol

 

chris

 

Let me loop Max.  Apologies for not having the info.  :)  

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buff the lowe. 

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View Postkorbendallas-01, on 19 April 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

 

Correct description of the situation, but a horrible proposal for a solution.

 

Nerf the new tanks, and give a pay cut to the person who was responsible for the op tank.

 

this is the right response, the way to fight power creep is with NERFS not buffs

Pawel Broda 73 #13 Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:18 AM

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For simple example:

V tier premium tank Leand Lease Matilda IV (medium, soviet tech tree)

Gun 76mm, penetration on AP 86mm

Penetration on premium 102mm

 

New regular czechoslovakian medium V tier (latest V tier medium)

Penetration on AP 132mm

Penetration on premium 171mm

This tank the accuracy is much more better then Matilda IV and mobility of course too.



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Buff the pen on the Pz. II J, it's far too weak, even the APCR bounce like 90% of the time.  Another thing is it sees tier 4 far too often, like 95% of the time. Yet another reason to buff the guns penetration.

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View PostRaNdOmKiLs666, on 21 April 2017 - 04:49 AM, said:

Buff the pen on the Pz. II J, it's far too weak, even the APCR bounce like 90% of the time.  Another thing is it sees tier 4 far too often, like 95% of the time. Yet another reason to buff the guns penetration.

Thats because it has Tier 4 only MM, it was OP in tier 3 match's until the nerfed its MM



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View PostRaNdOmKiLs666, on 21 April 2017 - 08:49 AM, said:

Buff the pen on the Pz. II J, it's far too weak, even the APCR bounce like 90% of the time.

 

Sure, if you also decrease armor by half.

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View PostMuttz v2, on 20 April 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

buff the lowe. 

 

I agree,The Engine upgrade is long overdue .

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View PostPawel Broda 73, on 21 April 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

For simple example:

V tier premium tank Leand Lease Matilda IV (medium, soviet tech tree)

Gun 76mm, penetration on AP 86mm

Penetration on premium 102mm

 

New regular czechoslovakian medium V tier (latest V tier medium)

Penetration on AP 132mm

Penetration on premium 171mm

This tank the accuracy is much more better then Matilda IV and mobility of course too.

 

Well Stated .I added this tank to my garage at the time of the fatherland opt.I wanted to boost my Russian Tanks .I made the mistake of not researching the pen values on the gun first.I have the British TecTree Matilda .Which is a Great little tank.But unfortunately its Russian Cousin is not .

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View PostChr15py, on 19 April 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

Hi WG staff. 

 

Any news on when the older premium workhorses will be brought up to date? There is currently an issue with older tanks being completely made redundant by all the newer tanks bing introduced into the game - aka powercreep. 

 

Pain said they would be looked at but we've not had anything since. Kind of stops people want to spend money if their virtual tank become effectively nerfed by buffing everything else.

 

examples?

Matilda BP - slow. Too slow. Meets OI tanks which can one shot. Is slower than said OI 130+ tonne tanks up an incline or on flat ground. 

 

Super Pershing - still a good tank but has been buffed on PC. With the newer tanks coming in all with higher pen, the "it has armour" reply is no longer relevant. 

 

There are loads more. It would be nice to find out what's happening and the only way we will is if WG developers let us know. I have a massive list to Raibot a few months back so they've had feedback 

 

cheis

If you happen to still have that list, send it over my way and will take a look.

View PostPLK180W, on 20 April 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

Add the Pz T-25(t) and PzIIJ to the "To Do" list.

View PostPawel Broda 73, on 21 April 2017 - 03:18 AM, said:

For simple example:

V tier premium tank Leand Lease Matilda IV (medium, soviet tech tree)

Gun 76mm, penetration on AP 86mm

Penetration on premium 102mm

 

New regular czechoslovakian medium V tier (latest V tier medium)

Penetration on AP 132mm

Penetration on premium 171mm

This tank the accuracy is much more better then Matilda IV and mobility of course too.

I think you may have overlooked that the Matilda IV has PMM.

View PostRaNdOmKiLs666, on 21 April 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Buff the pen on the Pz. II J, it's far too weak, even the APCR bounce like 90% of the time.  Another thing is it sees tier 4 far too often, like 95% of the time. Yet another reason to buff the guns penetration.

That would make it OP. The armor profile on the Pz II J is very strong, we have to be very very careful with any changes to it as the slightest change could make it OP. To allow it to do more damage, its armor would need to be nerfed.



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Actually wouldn't mind too much if the armour on PZIIJ was decreased if it did receive better gun stats. At least then you might be able to do more in a match. (though there's plenty of tier IV'S that can turn it to Swiss Cheese at the moment )

 

 

Simple fix for the PZ T-25(t), give the gun the same stats as the final gun on the Czech T-24,

(since it is  essentially the same gun), nothing else required, (already handicapped by turret and track rotation, weak view range, and no PMM, possibly an armour nerf would be needed though)

 

MBP,  acceleration buff is all that's really  needed, (though more ammo would also be nice!)


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