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Chr15py #21 Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:18 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 21 April 2017 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you happen to still have that list, send it over my way and will take a look.

I think you may have overlooked that the Matilda IV has PMM.

That would make it OP. The armor profile on the Pz II J is very strong, we have to be very very careful with any changes to it as the slightest change could make it OP. To allow it to do more damage, its armor would need to be nerfed.

 

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ushuaia ice #22 Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:43 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 21 April 2017 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you happen to still have that list, send it over my way and will take a look.

I think you may have overlooked that the Matilda IV has PMM.

That would make it OP. The armor profile on the Pz II J is very strong, we have to be very very careful with any changes to it as the slightest change could make it OP. To allow it to do more damage, its armor would need to be nerfed.

 

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RaNdOmKiLs666 #23 Posted 22 April 2017 - 12:06 AM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 21 April 2017 - 10:17 PM, said:

That would make it OP. The armor profile on the Pz II J is very strong, we have to be very very careful with any changes to it as the slightest change could make it OP. To allow it to do more damage, its armor would need to be nerfed.

 

I agree that you have to be careful with any changes to this tank, but i think it needs a rework.

 

My suggestion is make it only able to see other tier 3 tanks, as it gets frustrating to see M3 lees, Matildas etc constantly with it's current MM. A armor nerf would be needed for balance. Here's my armor nerf suggestion... hull: 65mm/50mm/30mm (front, sides and rear) Turret: 65mm/50mm/30mm (front, sides and rear). Now it still has very good armor for tier 3, but at the same time it's not impossible to pen. The counter for this tank would be TDs, arty and perhaps a sneaky light tank that could flank it. Now as for the gun i'd simply just give it the 2 cm flak 38 off the pz. 38 (t), since it would make the tank actually able to pen some tanks at it's own tier, at the moment you'd be lucky to pen a tier 2.

 

A good tank to compare the Pz. II J with these new stats would be the AMX 38.

 

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Edited by RaNdOmKiLs666, 22 April 2017 - 12:29 AM.


hexine #24 Posted 22 April 2017 - 08:52 PM

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View PostRaNdOmKiLs666, on 21 April 2017 - 08:49 AM, said:

Buff the pen on the Pz. II J, it's far too weak, even the APCR bounce like 90% of the time.  Another thing is it sees tier 4 far too often, like 95% of the time. Yet another reason to buff the guns penetration.

 

or they could just fix the 2 j's matchmaking......notice it CANNOT face tier 2? it is always bottom tier

RaNdOmKiLs666 #25 Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:10 AM

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View Posthexine, on 23 April 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

 

or they could just fix the 2 j's matchmaking......notice it CANNOT face tier 2? it is always bottom tier

 

Yep. It kind of ruins the point of the tank. The armors not very effective against a large portion of the tier 4s, which kinda defeats the point of the tank, while at the same time your gun has less penetration then the tier 1 LTractor. It needs a rework that's for sure.



PLK180W #26 Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:42 AM

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It's a bit of a disappointment for anyone that receives the PZIII as their first Premium Tank. 


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