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Nocski #21 Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:02 PM

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View PostFred Carries, on 21 April 2017 - 02:53 PM, said:

But I don't understand the point of doing it though 

 

Well, the expected damage values were way too low for the V/IV that we have on console. So I don't mind the correction on expected damage (even if it's my most played tank, so it has quite the impact) but it looks like they overdid it and doubled the expected values. 



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View PostMajor Englush, on 21 April 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

Thanks. I tried to check but it wouldn't pull up on my phone.

 

Quite frankly, the expected values should have been changed. Thing is way, way too good of a stat padder on console. :D

 

Absolutely true, but it feels like they overdid it. I went from 4200 to 1900 on the V/IV just like that...a bit harsh if you ask me... lol

Also, the affect it has on the overall is devastating. I was so pleased leaving the beans behind me but now I'm back there again... :(


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Have you guys noticed a hit on any other tanks? I was checking WOTInfo's Nerf Barometer and the top 3 tanks are console stet pedders: Sexy Sam, Rampanzer and the mighty T-Rex. You can have a bad game and still be blue... so they definitely need an adjustment. An average game should be green, not purple -- unless I am missing something.

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View PostRubbelito, on 21 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

Absolutely true, but it feels like they overdid it. I went from 4200 to 1900 on the V/IV just like that...a bit harsh if you ask me... lol

Also, the affect it has on the overall is devastating. I was so pleased leaving the beans behind me but now I'm back there again... :(

 

Lol, that's what I was thinking. Winrate in the tank moving higher all the time, WN8 drops like a rock. It's nothing to do with WG though as they've said. 

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View Postswamp_fox_009, on 21 April 2017 - 02:01 PM, said:

Did anyone email wotinfo24@gmail.com ? 

 

 

 

Yep. Thought I'd ask where it's come from as I can't find any mention of a v30 WN8 anywhere.

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View PostNocski, on 21 April 2017 - 09:02 AM, said:

 

Well, the expected damage values were way too low for the V/IV that we have on console. So I don't mind the correction on expected damage (even if it's my most played tank, so it has quite the impact) but it looks like they overdid it and doubled the expected values. 

 

Id say they over did it.

the highest expected on target damage is the M4 Sherman and hydrostat at 900 damage at tier V.

I have an average damage 1104 in the V/IV .

It didnt affect me too much as I dont have alot of battles in it. I feel sorry for those that do.


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View PostRubbelito, on 21 April 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

 

Absolutely true, but it feels like they overdid it. I went from 4200 to 1900 on the V/IV just like that...a bit harsh if you ask me... lol

Also, the affect it has on the overall is devastating. I was so pleased leaving the beans behind me but now I'm back there again... :(

It was all an illusion lol.  There are still lots of people with high stats in it.  It was adjusted hard, but not too hard.



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Has anyone played a battle in it to see if it corrects it self?

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View PostHEAT--54, on 21 April 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

It was all an illusion lol.  There are still lots of people with high stats in it.  It was adjusted hard, but not too hard.

 

Easy for you to say with only 9 battles in it... :rolleyes:

What if they doubled the expected in your precious T-54... ? :P


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View PostRubbelito, on 21 April 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

 

Easy for you to say with only 9 battles in it... :rolleyes:

What if they doubled the expected in your precious T-54... ? :P

 

If that is what needed to happen to actually have a good WN8 distribution for the tank I wouldn't complain. I've actually sold it.



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Stat Padders delight #1 was taken away. Sexton 1 is next

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Erm, I think the site may be bugged. This wasn't at the top of my WN8 list the other day, and it certainly doesn't add up in the stats for WN8 that high. I haven't played it in 2-3 years, either, so it's really odd. :confused:

 


 

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oh no, ludicrous expecteds for stat printer in marginally corrected (but still printing wn8) rage shocker!!
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Mine didn't change :B guess my 183 games are balanced as hell :trollface:

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Only 24 game in mine, even though I've had it since it's second release. No notable change to the WN8. No longer the Stat padders choice for tank.

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It was fair to make changes as it was broken on console. 

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i don't think the tank changed, just wotinfo's reporting of it.

Am i right in thinking that the wn8 printing's contribution to overall wn8 won't change, as it's not a weighted average of one's stats, more of an aggregation over time?

If that make's any sense?



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View PostD1G1TAL1MAGE, on 21 April 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

It was fair to make changes as it was broken on console. 

 

Maybe, but I'd still like to know how the expected value was produced.  I can't know what level of confidence to put into the number unless I know the procedure that created it. 

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View Postmockney_piers, on 21 April 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

i don't think the tank changed, just wotinfo's reporting of it.

Am i right in thinking that the wn8 printing's contribution to overall wn8 won't change, as it's not a weighted average of one's stats, more of an aggregation over time?

If that make's any sense?

 

It absolutely will affect your overall WN8.







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