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anukanaka #1 Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:19 PM

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it's really nice against all this T14 

just get my 10 kills and 2.8k dmg battle :)
 

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Yuuuuuuuup!! My favorite tank!!

 

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 01 February 2014 - 10:00 AM, said:

Yuuuuuuuup!! My favorite tank!!

 

Pew Pew!!


You do realize that this is a tier VI tank on the PC version, right?  I think WG has far more insight on this issue than WGW.



LemonMarlin #4 Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

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Beast tank. Went hit for hit with a t14 and a wolverine camping at their base at cliffs after I wheeled on over around the mountain in what seems like less than 30 seconds. I took out a td behind a building with 2 auto aim shots and never stopped. It was great. It would have been better if my team didn't die on me just as fast.

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IiMxMrGeitt #5 Posted 01 February 2014 - 05:37 PM

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best tank it has so much more hp than other Tier 5 tanks.

best thing is you can accelerate very fast so it is so good for tank ramming.

 


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I turned an enemy tank on its side after a hard ramming last night...lol.

 


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View PostHiero Glyph, on 01 February 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:


You do realize that this is a tier VI tank on the PC version, right?  I think WG has far more insight on this issue than WGW.

It works fine at tier 5 I killed 3 in ine match from almost full health in my T1 heavy. They have almost the same critical points as the panther so they aren't that hard to lght up or Immobilize after that it's just a matter of knowing where to shoot them (hint for all the noobies reading this thread: it's the turret or lower glacis)


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I just ran through to base on Westfield and circle around for a long time just to do it.  I circled the base so long everyone on the opfor had time to get multiple shots at me before I went down. And I killed 2 tanks with auto aim while doing it. Including the beast Russian scout. It was fun.

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View PostUnderwaterJedi, on 01 February 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

It works fine at tier 5 I killed 3 in ine match from almost full health in my T1 heavy. They have almost the same critical points as the panther so they aren't that hard to lght up or Immobilize after that it's just a matter of knowing where to shoot them (hint for all the noobies reading this thread: it's the turret or lower glacis)

Okay, the reason why the Pz. V/IV at tier 5 is overpowered isn't because you can't kill them. The reason why is because its a huge amount better than the other comparable german medium tanks. At tier 5, there are 4 german mediums, the Pz. IV, Pz. III/IV, the T-25, and the Pz. V/IV. The Pz. IV, Pz. III/IV and the T-25 all have a pretty similar gun. But the T-25 has slightly worse armour than the two non-premiums (not that any of their armour is that great), and is slightly less agile than the Pz. III/IV. It also has slightly worse stats on its gun than the Pz. IV gets, and it has slightly worse camo than either of the other 2 non-premiums. Its only real advantage is that it gets ~150 extra health. Comparing the Pz. V/IV, it has exactly the same gun as the two non-premiums, but it has almost double their health, and has much better frontal armour. Whereas you can pretty much just auto-aim at the front of the Pz. IV or Pz. III/IV and get through, tier 5's are unlikely to get through the upper glacis of the Pz. V/IV at all, so have to aim instead for the cupola or the lower glacis. If instead you compare this with the VK 3601 or VK 3001, the Pz. V/IV has ~100 extra hp, and has a much worse gun than either of the VK's. Its reasonably strong frontal armour now is a fair compensation for a mediocre gun, rather than a nice benefit on top of a good (for tier 5) gun. At tier 6, the Pz. V/IV is still better than either of the Pz. III/IV or Pz. IV, but that isn't a problem now, because it isn't at the exact same tier as them.

 

The reason why the Pz. V/IV either needs to be rebalanced for tier 5, or moved back to tier 6 is because at tier 5 the Pz. V/IV is just better than the two non-premium medium tanks that germany gets at that tier. The only small thing about the Pz. V/IV that is bad about it is that it has almost 0 gun depression. But when you have more health than any other tank in your tier, and you are better armoured than any other tank in your tier, and you are as fast as any tank in your tier, and you have a gun as strong as that of any other tank in your tier, you can deal with having bad gun depression. 


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just ram every tank you see with this tank 

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  It is a good tank, but I'm sticking with my AT 2.:bush:

 


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Thank you for that great reply.  I honestly don't know why WGW thinks they are improving a game when they have significantly less experience than WG and the PC version.  There is a reason why the Pz.Kpfw. V/IV is a tier VI on the PC version and not a tier V.  At best this is a simple mistake, but at worst it screams of a cash grab by giving players an obviously OP tank for its tier that you can only acquire by using gold.  I would love to hear WGW's response to this issue but pleading ignorance seems their best defense at this point; I doubt we will hear anything as a result and only after months of allowing players to purchase this tank will they rebalance it to tier VI.



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View PostHiero Glyph, on 01 February 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:

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Thank you for that great reply.  I honestly don't know why WGW thinks they are improving a game when they have significantly less experience than WG and the PC version.  There is a reason why the Pz.Kpfw. V/IV is a tier VI on the PC version and not a tier V.  At best this is a simple mistake, but at worst it screams of a cash grab by giving players an obviously OP tank for its tier that you can only acquire by using gold.  I would love to hear WGW's response to this issue but pleading ignorance seems their best defense at this point; I doubt we will hear anything as a result and only after months of allowing players to purchase this tank will they rebalance it to tier VI.

Months? It disappears after the 28th. Give it 2-3 months and it will be a myth most players will never see just like it is on the PC version of the game. I played 3500+ games on the PC starting roughly 6 months after the game came out. I've seen 2 in random games. If it is that rare I say just let it be and deal with it for a while. If you put this tank at tier 6 it had better get preferential matchmaking (+1 -2 like the T14) or it will disappear almost completely. 


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i love this tank, i have a feeling it will be my most played tank. it is just so much fun to play.

 

 


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View PostIiMxMrGeitt, on 01 February 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

just ram every tank you see with this tank 

i do lol


 

 


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Wallet warrior eh? Seems like a nice tank though.

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View PostUnderwaterJedi, on 01 February 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

Months? It disappears after the 28th. Give it 2-3 months and it will be a myth most players will never see just like it is on the PC version of the game. I played 3500+ games on the PC starting roughly 6 months after the game came out. I've seen 2 in random games. If it is that rare I say just let it be and deal with it for a while. If you put this tank at tier 6 it had better get preferential matchmaking (+1 -2 like the T14) or it will disappear almost completely. 

Beat me to it and thanks.  It's a limited offer tank and will be scarce in the wild in no time at all and a thing of legends.  Early players will be able to pick it up as a thanks for starting with the game and then it goes away.


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View PostWGWPAIN, on 02 February 2014 - 02:01 AM, said:

Beat me to it and thanks.  It's a limited offer tank and will be scarce in the wild in no time at all and a thing of legends.  Early players will be able to pick it up as a thanks for starting with the game and then it goes away.

so i can run around in an awesome tank that nobody else can have once it goes away? SWEET!:teethhappy:


 

 


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View PostWGWPAIN, on 02 February 2014 - 03:01 AM, said:

Beat me to it and thanks.  It's a limited offer tank and will be scarce in the wild in no time at all and a thing of legends.  Early players will be able to pick it up as a thanks for starting with the game and then it goes away.

Gah, Spent my Tank Money on PC WoT and Bought a KV-220 for the same price........

Going to Have to miss out on it :angry::sad:






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