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ScottRey97 #1 Posted 17 July 2017 - 09:36 AM

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If it did then I feel pretty daft about going for the T57 heavy when it's only 5 seconds faster. It's crutch is speed I can't out run anyone.

 

I know the AMX takes longer to unload the clip but if it can do the same damage and reload only 5 seconds slower whilst running away at double the speed limit then why am I sat here with a T57.


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View PostScottRey97, on 17 July 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

If it did then I feel pretty daft about going for the T57 heavy when it's only 5 seconds faster. It's crutch is speed I can't out run anyone.

 

I know the AMX takes longer to unload the clip but if it can do the same damage and reload only 5 seconds slower whilst running away at double the speed limit then why am I sat here with a T57.

 

​Because T57H has burst damage, its better in close range engagements and can afford to take a hit knowing another 1600HP will be ripped from em in 22seconds.

​AMX 50B is better with mediums, you use mobility to take high the high ground early and plug em from the side.

ScottRey97 #3 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:28 AM

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View PostRAGE4BACON, on 17 July 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

 

​Because T57H has burst damage, its better in close range engagements and can afford to take a hit knowing another 1600HP will be ripped from em in 22seconds.

​AMX 50B is better with mediums, you use mobility to take high the high ground early and plug em from the side.

 

seems like the 50B is more flexible given the speed n all. I can see where the T57 would have its advantages but now I kinda want the 50B
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I've always preferred the AMX 50b to the T57. Though if the swedish tanks are coming soon I'd hold off on rushing down the AMX 50b line. The Kranvang looks really good. 

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View PostScottRey97, on 17 July 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

seems like the 50B is more flexible given the speed n all. I can see where the T57 would have its advantages but now I kinda want the 50B

 

​It is and it isn't, T57H also has a smaller profile when ridge fighting and the gun being so far up the top of the turret means less exposure, believe it or not the T57H also has the better gun handling, on paper the 50Bs 0.34 is great but its magazine is so inconsistent on its target.

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View PostRAGE4BACON, on 17 July 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

 

​It is and it isn't, T57H also has a smaller profile when ridge fighting and the gun being so far up the top of the turret means less exposure, believe it or not the T57H also has the better gun handling, on paper the 50Bs 0.34 is great but its magazine is so inconsistent on its target.

Yeah I noticed that with the 13 90 bizarre accuracy and yeah true the T57 definitely has a better profile.

 

View PostTempest fox3, on 17 July 2017 - 10:30 AM, said:

I've always preferred the AMX 50b to the T57. Though if the swedish tanks are coming soon I'd hold off on rushing down the AMX 50b line. The Kranvang looks really good. 

 

is it true it's coming out August? If it's gunna come out so soon then I think I'll wait for the kranvagn. That turret armour is sweet.
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Hopefully in August I'm building my free xp and silver up now by running my German prems so I also get my crews for the new heavies.

 

back on topic though I have both, only one game in the 50b but I like its mobility over the 57 you don't feel like you have to fully commit and can relocate a lot easier and I'm pretty sure my reloads lower than 30s as I'm running vents and BiA, cant check as the crew is in the 30 proto but out of the two if I had to do them again I'd go for the 50b first.



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View PostRAGE4BACON, on 17 July 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

 

It is and it isn't, T57H also has a smaller profile when ridge fighting and the gun being so far up the top of the turret means less exposure, believe it or not the T57H also has the better gun handling, on paper the 50Bs 0.34 is great but its magazine is so inconsistent on its target.

 

  If I recall correctly the aim time of the 50b is longer than the gap between shots on the clip so if you want to be accurate you need to wait then fire. While the T57 Heavy has an aim time shorter than it's interclip reload time (And has a better interclip reload to boot)

View PostScottRey97, on 17 July 2017 - 11:36 AM, said:

Yeah I noticed that with the 13 90 bizarre accuracy and yeah true the T57 definitely has a better profile.

 

 

is it true it's coming out August? If it's gunna come out so soon then I think I'll wait for the kranvagn. That turret armour is sweet.

 

Seems like they're coming some time in August, the Kranvangn has the worst gun handling of the three and it's mobility is somewhere in the middle of the T57 and the AMX 50b but it had great hull armour and a neigh immortal turret front. 

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View PostTempest fox3, on 17 July 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

  If I recall correctly the aim time of the 50b is longer than the gap between shots on the clip so if you want to be accurate you need to wait then fire. While the T57 Heavy has an aim time shorter than it's interclip reload time (And has a better interclip reload to boot)

 

Seems like they're coming some time in August, the Kranvangn has the worst gun handling of the three and it's mobility is somewhere in the middle of the T57 and the AMX 50b but it had great hull armour and a neigh immortal turret front. 

 

I'm looking forward to more mobility and a bit of armour
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DefiantSpurr #11 Posted 17 July 2017 - 05:16 PM

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The amx has French gun handling though. It loves working with rng to troll you. ☹

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30?  I thought it was closer to 35. Either way, I prefer the 50B to the T57 Heavy.  Much more flexible.


 


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both are good in their own right. 50B is the "speed demon" of the 2. but the T57 is a true brawling that will tear you a new one if you let it have their way with you. Going to get the 50B someday but not anytime soon. though it gets 325mm APCR to the T57 340 HEAT which is already a reason why i want it.

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Not being able to get my barrel up on the 50B was always an issue.  :trollface:

 

 

 

 


ScottRey97 #15 Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:49 PM

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Took the T57 out for a few games, probably dont appreciate the gun handling as much as I should. Still think the speed is awful though,in the dust of a deathstar while trying to clean up
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View PostScottRey97, on 17 July 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Took the T57 out for a few games, probably dont appreciate the gun handling as much as I should. Still think the speed is awful though,in the dust of a deathstar while trying to clean up

 

Yea distance is the enemy of the T57. The hardest thing about having high damage per match is simply being at the main fight in time.

 

When it makes it there no heavy in game can dump that amount of damage in such a short period of time. 6k damage is simple if you are able to show up to the party in time and get in close.


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View Postgiaka, on 17 July 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

Not being able to get my barrel up on the 50B was always an issue.  :trollface:

You need that Viagra 50B. Just call a doctor if your barrel stays up for more than 3 hours, or you have sudden vision or hearing loss. 


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I love my 50B to death, but the rng kills the gun. I dont even know if i can commit to the 3 mark grind right now. If it could only get the depression and aiming time buff from pc it would actually be competitive

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View PostTempest fox3, on 17 July 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

  If I recall correctly the aim time of the 50b is longer than the gap between shots on the clip so if you want to be accurate you need to wait then fire. While the T57 Heavy has an aim time shorter than it's interclip reload time (And has a better interclip reload to boot)

 

Seems like they're coming some time in August, the Kranvangn has the worst gun handling of the three and it's mobility is somewhere in the middle of the T57 and the AMX 50b but it had great hull armour and a neigh immortal turret front. 

 

​By Gun handling I meant accuracy and reliability of the shots hitting target, sorry I should've been more specific.

​A usual example of 50Bs spread would be: 1st shot right on the mark, 2nd shot slightly above the mark, 3rd shot bounce, 4th shot in the dirt.

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View Postgiaka, on 17 July 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

Not being able to get my barrel up on the 50B was always an issue.  :trollface:

 

View PostTocFanKe4, on 18 July 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

You need that Viagra 50B. Just call a doctor if your barrel stays up for more than 3 hours, or you have sudden vision or hearing loss. 

 

Ok I didn't realise that was what was being implied here :D
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