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Harambe Jenner #1 Posted 29 July 2017 - 04:46 PM

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Does anybody know how this system actually works? I'm trying to get my Commander to level 10 for the achievement, but it is taking FOREVER. I was just curious as to how much xp goes to crew xp and how much is required per level (It certainly feels like each level requires more time). SO if anybody does know the exact formula to how much crew xp you receive from your standard xp and/or how much crew xp is required per level, that'd be awesome. It just seems like a really ambiguous system right now and I really want to just get that achievement.

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All xp also counts as crew xp, so it is all the xp you get. I don't know the exact values for each level but I can practically guarantee you it goes up with the levels. It's the same for perks. I know the values for those, but the crew levels are different. 

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IIRC I had to train 12-13 skills to get my first rank 10 crew.

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View Postemperordennis, on 29 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

All xp also counts as crew xp, so it is all the xp you get. I don't know the exact values for each level but I can practically guarantee you it goes up with the levels. It's the same for perks. I know the values for those, but the crew levels are different. 

Are you sure about that? Why would there be crew xp modifiers and standard xp modifiers? That implies a difference in XP.


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View PostDragonEliteDTM, on 29 July 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

IIRC I had to train 12-13 skills to get my first rank 10 crew.

 

I'm 46% into my 13th

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I feel your pain,  definitely in the same boat!! I'm at 99% of skill 13 and still waiting on rank 10!!

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View PostCUZN CRAIG, on 29 July 2017 - 10:56 AM, said:

I feel your pain,  definitely in the same boat!! I'm at 99% of skill 13 and still waiting on rank 10!!

 

Luckily, my crew is in my tiger 131 and its tier 7 Ranked Battles right now, so I'm doing a lot of grinding today. 

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View PostHarambe Jenner, on 29 July 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

 

I'm 46% into my 13th

 

I'll bet you get it when your 13th gets to 100%. 12-13 skills is what I remember it taking but my memory isn't the best. I can guarantee you won't need 15 for it though.



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View PostHarambe Jenner, on 29 July 2017 - 05:46 PM, said:

Does anybody know how this system actually works? I'm trying to get my Commander to level 10 for the achievement, but it is taking FOREVER. I was just curious as to how much xp goes to crew xp and how much is required per level (It certainly feels like each level requires more time). SO if anybody does know the exact formula to how much crew xp you receive from your standard xp and/or how much crew xp is required per level, that'd be awesome. It just seems like a really ambiguous system right now and I really want to just get that achievement.

 

I suspect that they kept the numbers from PC for the rank, which means that the requirement doubles for each rank.

 

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View Postkorbendallas-01, on 29 July 2017 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

I suspect that they kept the numbers from PC for the rank, which means that the requirement doubles for each rank.

 

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You're the best. I just wish there was an actual amount of xp required we could see.

Edited by Harambe Jenner, 29 July 2017 - 05:47 PM.


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View PostHarambe Jenner, on 29 July 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

 

You're the best. I just wish there was an actual amount of xp required we could see.

 

Here you go.  Got this when they had the event where we could use Free XP for Crew XP.  That's why all the Free XP cost stuff is mixed in there.  We were trying to find out the cost of training up a brand new crew to 25 skills/ perks with that Free XP event thing.  Anyway, when you went to that menu, you could actually see the exact amount of "Crew XP" your selected crew had.  Other than that, I don't believe there's another way to visually see the exact amount of "Crew XP" your crew currently has (despite this being requested many times on the Suggestion Threads).  It just shows the percentage progression you currently have for the skill/ perk you're currently training.  You can look up your lifetime "Tank XP" on your stats page, but that's only for your vehicles.  Your "Crew XP" will be significantly higher.  Although you get "Crew XP" equal to the amount of "Tank XP" in every game, you also get more "Crew XP" that's not shown on the end-game screen, depending on your modifiers (something else we've been requesting for the end-game screen for a while now, too).  The Crew XP bonuses you get from Mentor, Elite Tanks, Premium Tanks, Boosts, and Operations are beautiful things and make training up your crews a lot faster.  Remember that the required Crew XP for a skills/ perks doubles every 4 that are trained.  Hope this helps.

 

 

Skill/ Perks XP Requirements (for brand new crew):

-Training Crew to 100%: 241,569 Crew XP total (Free XP Conversion cost is 60,392.25 Free XP to go from 50% to 100%)

 *Note--(minimum Crew Academy Training is 50% for a brand new crew, so actually only need 120,784.5 Crew XP to train up to 100%.  Also, the following DOES NOT take into account moving the crew into a different tech tree tank and having to retrain them back up to 100%.  These are basic figures for a brand new crew that will stay with their original assigned tank until reaching 25 skills/ perks.)

-Skills 1 to 4: 100,800 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 50,400 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 1: 342,369 Crew XP total

  *Skill 2: 443,169 Crew XP total

  *Skill 3: 543,969 Crew XP total

  *Skill 4: 644,769 Crew XP total

-Skills 5 to 8: 201,600 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 100,800 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 5: 846,369 Crew XP total

  *Skill 6: 1,047,969 Crew XP total

  *Skill 7: 1,249,569 Crew XP total

  *Skill 8: 1,451,169 Crew XP total

-Skills 9 to 12: 403,200 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 201,600 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 9: 1,854,369 Crew XP total

  *Skill 10: 2,257,569 Crew XP total

  *Skill 11: 2,660,769 Crew XP total

  *Skill 12: 3,063,969 Crew XP total

-Skills 13 to 16: 806,400 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 403,200 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 13: 3,870,369 Crew XP total

  *Skill 14: 4,676,769 Crew XP total

  *Skill 15: 5,483,169 Crew XP total

  *Skill 16: 6,289,569 Crew XP total

-Skills 17 to 20: 1,612,800 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 806,400 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 17: 7,902,369 Crew XP total

  *Skill 18: 9,515,169 Crew XP total

  *Skill 19: 11,127,969 Crew XP total

  *Skill 20: 12,740,769 Crew XP total

-Skills 21 to 24: 3,225,600 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 1,612,800 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 21: 15,966,369 Crew XP total

  *Skill 22: 19,191,969 Crew XP total

  *Skill 23: 22,417,569 Crew XP total

  *Skill 24: 25,643,169 Crew XP total

-Skill 25: 6,451,200 XP ea. (Free XP Conversion cost is 3,225,600 Free XP ea.)

  *Skill 25: 32,094,369 Crew XP total

*Total Crew XP required for 25 Skills/ Perks for a brand new crew: 32,094,369 Crew XP

(Free XP Conversion cost is 15,986,792.25 Free XP for 25 Skills/ Perks)

 

-At current rate of 1 Gold = 25 Free XP; then you need 639,471.69 Gold.

-So, you'd need 25 of the 25,000 Gold packs ($99.99 ea.), 1 of the 12,000 Gold packs ($49.99 ea.), and 2 of the 1250 Gold packs ($6.99 ea.).  So, it'd be $2,563.72 (before taxes).  :coin:



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Thanks, I can't believe that I didn't think of that myself lol

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View PostHarambe Jenner, on 29 July 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

You're the best. I just wish there was an actual amount of xp required we could see.

 

Well, scroll up, you have the numbers right there.

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View PostSadriel Fett, on 29 July 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

You can look up your lifetime "Tank XP" on your stats page, but that's only for your vehicles. Your "Crew XP" will be significantly higher.

 

In some cases, yes. In other cases, the two will be identical.

 

View PostSadriel Fett, on 29 July 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

-Training Crew to 100%: 241,569 Crew XP total (Free XP Conversion cost is 60,392.25 Free XP to go from 50% to 100%)

 

I think this number is wrong, training to 100 % costs about 100k XP. I usually train from 75 %, and keep an eye on this, I would notice an increase of more about 140 %.

 

Where did you get this number?



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View Postkorbendallas-01, on 29 July 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

In some cases, yes. In other cases, the two will be identical.

 

 

I think this number is wrong, training to 100 % costs about 100k XP. I usually train from 75 %, and keep an eye on this, I would notice an increase of more about 140 %.

 

Where did you get this number?

 

This is the exact number that was shown on 3 crews that were already trained up to 100% (that came with Premium tanks) which I never used and had in the garage.  Wanted to make absolutely sure, so I also recruited two brand new crews, spent the 100K so they'd be 75%, then used the Free XP to train them up to exactly 100% each and it also came out to this number for total Crew XP they had when they were at 100%.  At the time, I was only wanting to know how much exact Crew XP a crew has when they're right at 100% of basic training, before even starting to train a skill/ perk.  I didn't have to spend that much Free XP to train them up to 100%, since they were already at 75%.  There had never been a way to see your "exact" amount of crew XP before for a specific crew, even though we've been asking for it for quite a while now.  So, that was actually really useful.  I only wish they kept this as a permanent feature.  It made seeing where you're at a lot easier than the percentage thing they use right now.  Especially if it was a crew you'd used on several tanks as you were grinding, so you'd have to train them back up to 100% basic training each time.  So, their total Crew XP would be way higher than the basic required numbers shown above.  They would have all that extra Crew XP showing, from where you had to train them back up to 100% each time.  The main reason I did this was because it didn't jive with what they have on their Crew Training webpage.  If you go by what they're showing on there, then your crew should have exactly 96,628 Crew XP total when they're at 100% training.  So, why such a huge difference, you know?  The thing is, it still took 100,800 Crew XP to train him up on his first Skill/ Perk, after that.  I haven't gotten a response back on why the one says 96,628 but the actual Crew XP showing up in-game was 241,569.  All I got was a "we'll look into it."  I'm not holding my breath I'll hear anything about it anytime soon.  Know what I mean?

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View PostHarambe Jenner, on 29 July 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Are you sure about that? Why would there be crew xp modifiers and standard xp modifiers? That implies a difference in XP.

 

Sorry yes, my mistake. All tank xp is also rewarded as crew xp. Crew xp bonuses are added on top, I forgot about those. 

The previous replies should give you a clear answer on how it works. Sorry for the confusion. 


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Would be nice if they showed the amount needed for the next rank. Or even a percentage like they do for skills even. I also only need the Achievement for a Rank 10 Crew and it feels like they've been at 2/3 of a bar forever. :(

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View PostPit Friend, on 29 July 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

Would be nice if they showed the amount needed for the next rank. Or even a percentage like they do for skills even. I also only need the Achievement for a Rank 10 Crew and it feels like they've been at 2/3 of a bar forever. :(

 

​I got that achievement a few weeks ago. I used a lot of the 10x, 6x and other crew boosts that we were awarded to speed it up some because it seemed like it never moved when I was that close to achieving it.

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View PostSadriel Fett, on 29 July 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

There had never been a way to see your "exact" amount of crew XP before for a specific crew

 

Well, in a way. With TT tanks, the amount of crew XP is not that hard to figure out, and the percentage is shown.

 

View PostSadriel Fett, on 29 July 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

I haven't gotten a response back on why the one says 96,628 but the actual Crew XP showing up in-game was 241,569.  All I got was a "we'll look into it."

 

You reported an error on their webpage and expected a response?

 

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View Postkorbendallas-01, on 30 July 2017 - 04:34 AM, said:

 

 

You reported an error on their webpage and expected a response?

 

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