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Brick S0lid #1 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:24 AM

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Bad tank. Already had the Centennial and remembered it being half decent so considering they're the same tank in all respects except a tiny amount of spaced armor I expected the Chieftain/T95 to be a good tank. I don't think my original assessment of these tanks was correct. They are trash.

 

Dpm is bad, pen isn't good, premium pen is bad, accuracy is mediocre, mobility is on the bad side, armor on paper is good however in actual game play its terrible. Played about 13 battles in it today and I won't be playing anymore anytime soon. I had planned to 3 mark it but with the tank being in the state it is currently I'm not going to play ~100 battles dealing with this crap. 

 

I'm expecting for some of you to come into this thread and argue that it's a good tank and that you have to wiggle the turret, play support and blah blah blah. I don't care, I do these things and the tank is still bad. For the record I am comparing this tank to just about every other tier VIII premium medium I have. Mutz, T95E2, Panther 8.8, STA-2, CDC, Motherland, Type 59, T26E4, M4A1 rev. And dare I say the M46 Patton KR is more competitive half the time. Not going to compare it to the FV4202p as I don't even consider that thing playable with its top speed right now.

 

 


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USSWISCONSIN94 #2 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:25 AM

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Have you ever thought the problem is just as much you as the tank?

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Brick S0lid #3 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:28 AM

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 13 August 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

Have you ever thought the problem is just as much you as the tank?

 

of course. I then dismissed that thought because it's stupid.

Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

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ATHFjman18 #4 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:30 AM

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I'm not defending it, but I do well in my Centennial so I don't mind playing it every once and a while, esp since it was a free tank.

 

I have no need/desire to earn the Chieftain/T95 this go around...



Brick S0lid #5 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:35 AM

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View PostATHFjman18, on 13 August 2017 - 03:30 AM, said:

I'm not defending it, but I do well in my Centennial so I don't mind playing it every once and a while, esp since it was a free tank.

 

I have no need/desire to earn the Chieftain/T95 this go around...

What is "well"? 


Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

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NightOfDeaths #6 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:38 AM

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It's okay. It does well sometimes. 

 

 

 

Though I own the Centennial. The gun can be absolutely crappy sometimes, herp derp. The sand bags on the Cent covers the cupla making it hard to hit. 

 

With out the sand bags the turret will be viewed as butter, if you let them aim. Side armor is bad, sidescrape only showing the tracks. 


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I agree, it's a crappy tank.

 

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ATHFjman18 #8 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:41 AM

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View PostBrick S0lid, on 12 August 2017 - 10:35 PM, said:

What is "well"? 

 

Ehhh I dunno, I guess enough to have a mastery badge and a MOE on it.

 

I probably average about 1,500-2,000 direct damage and about 500-1,000 assist damage per match. 

 

Nothing stellar to some, but to me it's enough to bank about 70-80k silver per match. 



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View PostBrick S0lid, on 12 August 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

 

of course. I then dismissed that thought because it's stupid.

There's the problem


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Brick S0lid #10 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:50 AM

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View PostATHFjman18, on 13 August 2017 - 03:41 AM, said:

 

Ehhh I dunno, I guess enough to have a mastery badge and a MOE on it.

 

I probably average about 1,500-2,000 direct damage and about 500-1,000 assist damage per match. 

 

Nothing stellar to some, but to me it's enough to bank about 70-80k silver per match. 

Compared to all my other premiums that's not good enough for me.


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Brick S0lid #11 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:52 AM

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 13 August 2017 - 03:42 AM, said:

There's the problem

 

don't come here and try tell me I'm the problem. I've a fair understanding of the game I'm not just some 5k battle 1000wn8 player ok

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ATHFjman18 #12 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:54 AM

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View PostBrick S0lid, on 12 August 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:

Compared to all my other premiums that's not good enough for me.

 

I figured as much Hahaha. That's why I said I wasn't defending it! 



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View PostBrick S0lid, on 12 August 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

 

don't come here and try tell me I'm the problem. I've a fair understanding of the game I'm not just some 5k battle 1000wn8 player ok

Actions speak louder than words.


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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 12 August 2017 - 10:00 PM, said:

Actions speak louder than words.

What are you trying to prove? The guy doesn't like the tank and is sharing his opinion. Are you saying he's a potato, because clearly he's not.

 

Fwiw Brick, I don't care for it either. The gun handling is super trolly, which is a huge problem for a medium with middling mobility, a bad hull, and a shoot-me-here weak spot that can't be hidden.



Brick S0lid #15 Posted 13 August 2017 - 04:11 AM

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 13 August 2017 - 04:00 AM, said:

Actions speak louder than words.

 

such wisdom. Come back when you have more games than forum posts kid

Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

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USSWISCONSIN94 #16 Posted 13 August 2017 - 04:17 AM

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View PostRagingxMarmoset, on 12 August 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

What are you trying to prove? The guy doesn't like the tank and is sharing his opinion. Are you saying he's a potato, because clearly he's not.

 

Fwiw Brick, I don't care for it either. The gun handling is super trolly, which is a huge problem for a medium with middling mobility, a bad hull, and a shoot-me-here weak spot that can't be hidden.

My point is is more to due with how it's

not for him but it's not shite like he keeps saying.

 

brick. ah lol how sad you have to be to try and use my post number in this. Hypocrite.


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Agreed its dpm and gun are crap.

 

Also the armor.

 

And mobility.

 

And prem pen.

 

Basically everything actually.

 

 

I have no idea why i keep playing it.



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View PostBrick S0lid, on 13 August 2017 - 03:28 AM, said:

 

of course. I then dismissed that thought because it's stupid.

 

I don't think a more Unicum statement has ever been spoken.

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View PostW 4 L K U R E, on 12 August 2017 - 10:22 PM, said:

 

I don't think a more Unicum statement has ever been spoken.

 

omg lol

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I don't have much problems with it to say the least. Sure, it ain't so good for a typical medium at its tier level but it's alright






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