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MASHMAN 90 #81 Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:56 AM

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View Postacidfiend, on 11 September 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

I think the goal of these ops are to get people playing as much as possible so they can earn the tank. That's why it takes allot of xp to earn it

 

That's true but you should be able to play other games as well as just tanks and the dev's said in the past that in earn ops, they want to give everyone the same opportunity to earn the tank, While they have done it on paper (i.e. Offer everyone the Op), The Amount of XP is questionable for those who work so feel the tank is only earnable for those who don't work or if tanks is the only game they play.

This sort of XP i would expect for a Tier 6-8 Tank as its a Tier X grind and no matter how anyone puts it, it's a Tier X grind for a Tier 4 Tank and as a New Player took me 3 months for my first Tier X, The T110E3.

Feel 100k Maximum in two weeks should have been enough to do the tank.

 


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In my opinion, 100k in two weeks would be way too easy.  If I don't have anything to do, I could grind that out in a day.

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View PostYCS-186, on 11 September 2017 - 07:01 AM, said:

Thanks for the Honor T28E, WG, I love it. Great tank. However, the xp required for this tier IV medium was excessive. In the past, you've given out tier VIII premiums for a bit less xp. The xp required for a tier IV shouldn't be over 30k total. This would have put the tank within reach of new players, who are the ones who desperately need a good lower-tier premium tank like this for crew training, silver farming, and to strike back at all the seal-clubbers. It doesn't matter if the veterans can easily earn it with lowered requirements, the new players who need it the most would have a much better shot at getting it. You want to increase new player retention? Put a powerful earnable tank of tier V or lower easily within their reach. Let them feel powerful and have fun. New players who enjoy the game will stick around much longer than those who don't.

 

When I first joined, there was an earn op going on for the GuP. All it took was 20k xp in a Panzer IV H to earn that tier V medium. That gave me a goal to shoot for. I ground from tier I to tier V as fast as I could, even spent money and bought a week of premium time to make things easier. Earning that tank was a great feeling, and was one of things that got me hooked on WoT. If I had seen a 295k xp requirement for the GuP, that would have crushed my dreams of owning it because there's no way I would have been able to earn it back then. So, think of the new players when you offer earnable premiums tier V and below. Let's go back to ops like the GuP earn op for those, and save the high xp/points requirements for tanks tier VI and greater.

 

I agree.. I wish I could play those 20k ops back than  to earn tanks like GuP... still can't believe it was such a low requirement..but I'm playing it from the start of this year...still I love to have those earn ops and I don't mind if the effort it takes to get them is a bit higher...T95E2, Revalorise, Chieftain T95, Lycan, Bogatyr, Ripper, Ac IV Exp (and many more) - all those tanks in my garage are rewards from earn ops..

For a new players ther is always some free package with premium tank just for installing the game...like when I installed mine it was Pz IIJ PS...couple of months ago there was a package for new players with that Somua S35 french premium and that is very solid tank...then shortly after that every player got Raiseinai tank for free asa gift from WG...shortly after that there was also a tournament prize AC I Vanquisher and all you needed to do in order to get one is to choose the right (winning) side...in this case it was Russians ..

All in all that is 3 free premium tanks without any effort whatsoever...they are not the best tanks available but they are free and can serve as crew trainers very well for the start..

 

Oh and also I was trying very hard to get that Fatherland op finished, but I've won 4 out of 5 medals required and that final medal never came... it was very frustrating, but I must be honest that it was February and I couldn't play it for 7 or 8 days because the event started when I was on my ski vacation in mountains, so I can't say that requirements were too high or unreachable...


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Koima57 #84 Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:18 AM

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 01 September 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

Hello tankers!

 

Please share all of your thoughts and comments about the Honor Earn Op in here!  We want to know what you like about it, how your progression is going and what we can improve in the future.

 

Information about the Honor Earn Op: https://console.worl...or-among-tanks/

 

Thanks and roll out!! 

 

 

A nice op; but not fair to everyone to include premium account double xp into the count; as for +1, +3 or +5 points ops it does not make a difference. Should not make one for this kind of op either and not get the reward twice faster for some irl €...

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View Postacidfiend, on 11 September 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

In my opinion, 100k in two weeks would be way too easy. If I don't have anything to do, I could grind that out in a day.

 

Yup it would be easy but don't forget this is a Tier 4 Tank we are talking about and this is a Tier 10 grind. 6 Tier difference for the same amount of XP.

Also maybe easy for you but for those who work, it could be a benefit without having to dip into their wages which this amount of XP promotes.



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View PostJope2209, on 11 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

 

I agree.. I wish I could play those 20k ops back than  to earn tanks like GuP... still can't believe it was such a low requirement..but I'm playing it from the start of this year...still I love to have those earn ops and I don't mind if the effort it takes to get them is a bit higher...T95E2, Revalorise, Chieftain T95, Lycan, Bogatyr, Ripper, Ac IV Exp (and many more) - all those tanks in my garage are rewards from earn ops..

For a new players ther is always some free package with premium tank just for installing the game...like when I installed mine it was Pz IIJ PS...couple of months ago there was a package for new players with that Somua S35 french premium and that is very solid tank...then shortly after that every player got Raiseinai tank for free asa gift from WG...shortly after that there was also a tournament prize AC I Vanquisher and all you needed to do in order to get one is to choose the right (winning) side...in this case it was Russians ..

All in all that is 3 free premium tanks without any effort whatsoever...they are not the best tanks available but they are free and can serve as crew trainers very well for the start..

 

Oh and also I was trying very hard to get that Fatherland op finished, but I've won 4 out of 5 medals required and that final medal never came... it was very frustrating, but I must be honest that it was February and I couldn't play it for 7 or 8 days because the event started when I was on my ski vacation in mountains, so I can't say that requirements were too high or unreachable...

 

Never had chance for GuP but had all you mentioned other than Ripper, AC4 and Lycan, I went T95E2, Cromwell B and Revalorise. I do thank WG for the free Premiums as i'm mostly a free player.

Only one i missed on was Kraft Panther and due to net going down in final week.


 


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Thanks WG for making this an XP Op instead of Damage or Kills which makes players insane and affects gameplay.

Also thanks for having a x3 day in the middle of this Op so I could take advantage and earn this sucker faster.


 

I don't think players without premium time or premium tanks should complain that players with any of these premium items got their T-28 Honor faster.  It's a choice: you either save money or time.  And I've learned that I can never get back time, I can always earn more money.


 

I do think that this particular earnable tank was sold too recently in the store. Players who actually bought it might have felt cheated out of their gold even if you gave them silver compensation.


 

As far as the tank goes it has a great gun, decent armor and good XP and silver bonuses!  However with my best Russian crew and equipment (gun rammer, gun laying drive and vents) the gun handling is horrible (bloom, aiming time, reload).  It moves 50% slower than the Tech Tree T-28 but that's because of its armor which The Honor has some to speak of and allows it to last longer than its TT counterpart.  It's an Ok tank but it was free and not insanely difficult to get.  So I'll take it!


 

Keep the earnable Ops and On Track Events coming.  How 'bout China next time?


 


 



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View PostNetoAH5, on 11 September 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

Thanks WG for making this an XP Op instead of Damage or Kills which makes players insane and affects gameplay.

Also thanks for having a x3 day in the middle of this Op so I could take advantage and earn this sucker faster.


 

I don't think players without premium time or premium tanks should complain that players with any of these premium items got their T-28 Honor faster.  It's a choice: you either save money or time.  And I've learned that I can never get back time, I can always earn more money.


 

I do think that this particular earnable tank was sold too recently in the store. Players who actually bought it might have felt cheated out of their gold even if you gave them silver compensation.


 

As far as the tank goes it has a great gun, decent armor and good XP and silver bonuses!  However with my best Russian crew and equipment (gun rammer, gun laying drive and vents) the gun handling is horrible (bloom, aiming time, reload).  It moves 50% slower than the Tech Tree T-28 but that's because of its armor which The Honor has some to speak of and allows it to last longer than its TT counterpart.  It's an Ok tank but it was free and not insanely difficult to get.  So I'll take it!


 

Keep the earnable Ops and On Track Events coming.  How 'bout China next time?


 


 

 

"I don't think players without premium time or premium tanks should complain that players with any of these premium items got their T-28 Honor faster.  It's a choice: you either save money or time.  And I've learned that I can never get back time, I can always earn more money."

 

Personally, my complain is not directed toward other players getting the reward faster at all. It is directed at WG marketing genius in place that, to quote the poster right above, "Also maybe easy for you but for those who work, it could be a benefit without having to dip into their wages which this amount of XP promotes."

 

It is not nice simply. Just the same it is not nice to lock the training mode in main menu to premium account holders only. But by now it is obvious this company, while being a company doing its business for living as expected, is kind of  very greedy... No surprise then but leaves another layer of P2W annoyance.

 

Let's see some War stories campaign (with juicy rewards) available by Gold only someday, most probably planned... Etc.


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I like this OP better than the top 5 in game way of scoring.  The latter encourages poor game play just finish top 5 even in loss.   This current Op rewards winning because you get more experience....so people play more "normal".  

 

The 295k experience seemed daunting at first, but finished it easy in less than half the time allotted.  

 

I like the tank just fine for tier IV premium.

 

i would love a future Op where you could win free crew skills as reward...maybe even specialty crew skills you can't get in normal play.

 

 

 



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I gotta say out loud that this op was planned poorly and the time to complete it was too short. I get the large amount for tier 8 but for a tier 4 which you gave out in bundles in the summer was just boneheaded. More than halfway done with part 5 which I am going to complete on the end date but that is that. Please think more carefully next time.

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View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 12 September 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

I gotta say out loud that this op was planned poorly and the time to complete it was too short. I get the large amount for tier 8 but for a tier 4 which you gave out in bundles in the summer was just boneheaded. More than halfway done with part 5 which I am going to complete on the end date but that is that. Please think more carefully next time.

 

​What? That was supereasy, plenty of time to complete that op. I could have probably done that op in 2 or 3 days if I've wanted...

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I know it was only for a tier IV tank, but it was far too easy to achieve. The different levels, and the prizes for them were nice, though.

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View PostHaukkis, on 12 September 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

 

​What? That was supereasy, plenty of time to complete that op. I could have probably done that op in 2 or 3 days if I've wanted...

 

Unless you work 40 hours a week with travel time and start to get back to school, it's not that easy. The xp requirements were not thought out that well. I get a lot for a tier 8 but for a tier 4? I mean come on man

 



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View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 12 September 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

 

Unless you work 40 hours a week with travel time and start to get back to school, it's not that easy. The xp requirements were not thought out that well. I get a lot for a tier 8 but for a tier 4? I mean come on man

 

 

it was easy for me to do as I only go back to uni tomorrow, I can understand people who work full time simply can't do it so quick.

 

And 295k XP? For a tier 4?? Premium tank or not that's almost 2 M48 pattons which is ridiculous.


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View PostKoima57, on 11 September 2017 - 05:18 AM, said:

 

A nice op; but not fair to everyone to include premium account double xp into the count; as for +1, +3 or +5 points ops it does not make a difference. Should not make one for this kind of op either and not get the reward twice faster for some irl €...

 

excuse me, but I pay for my premium time.  To exclude premium time would be a disservice to myself and other paying customers. What do you care if I finish the op before you. 

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I'm glad to see xp ops come back, points had been used for the last few ops.

 

I think I'd like to see a hybrid of xp and points for earn ops. That way if your team does win you get the xp to help, and if you lose and do well you get the 5 points. That way it's not too much xp, and not too many points needed to earn what you want from the op.


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View PostScottRey97, on 13 September 2017 - 12:47 AM, said:

View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 12 September 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

 

Unless you work 40 hours a week with travel time and start to get back to school, it's not that easy. The xp requirements were not thought out that well. I get a lot for a tier 8 but for a tier 4? I mean come on man

 

 

it was easy for me to do as I only go back to uni tomorrow, I can understand people who work full time simply can't do it so quick.

 

And 295k XP? For a tier 4?? Premium tank or not that's almost 2 M48 pattons which is ridiculous.

 

Agreed as i keep saying it's a Tier 10 grind, all those saying it's easy probably spent 12+ hours a day on the game.



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View PostAllegheny64, on 13 September 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

 

excuse me, but I pay for my premium time.  To exclude premium time would be a disservice to myself and other paying customers. What do you care if I finish the op before you. 

 

Agreed, It's sort of a way to reward Cashiers for their service to the game. Although those free players who have spent years and has thousands of games don't really get a reward for their service.

Still a thankyou to Cashiers who keep the game free :)

 


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View PostAllegheny64, on 13 September 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

 

excuse me, but I pay for my premium time.  To exclude premium time would be a disservice to myself and other paying customers. What do you care if I finish the op before you. 

 

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