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Beta582 #1 Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:55 PM

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...Is absolutely broken and I love it!

 

Don't get me wrong, I am a little biased towards this vehicle even before the buff (I thought it was borderline OP before buffs) so I will try to back up my statements as best I can.

For reference, my original review on this vehicle: http://forum-console...141-112-review/

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For those that don't know, the HD model of the 112 changed the armor layout fairly heavily. The turret face went from 240mm base thickness to 300mm base thickness (tapering off further from the gun), side armor above the tracks went from 100mm to 120mm, side armor behind the tracks went from 80mm to 100mm, and the lower plate went from 80mm to 140mm.

 

Before these changes, you would have to play the 112 cautiously at range because both fuel tanks and ammo rack were easily damage from hits to the lower plate until you could get up close and facehug/brawl. Now, you can easily angle out in the open or just drive towards enemies with a little weaving to get up close. The lower plates effective thickness on flat ground WITHOUT angling is 200+mm and with a little bit of an angle can easily hit 250+mm without ever risking a penetration to the side. And with the turret armor being buffed to 300mm, you don't even have to worry about premium spam to the turret anymore. Keep in mind, this is all on a tier 8 vehicle WITH Preferential Matchmaking!

 

I played mine for 5 games yesterday and got in order: 4 kills first game, 4 kills second game, 5 kills third game, 4 kills fourth game, and 6 kills fifth game. This was all while getting up close and brawling because even tier 9's couldn't penetrate the armor (tier 9 is the highest tier this vehicle faces).

 

This vehicle has been buffed to a degree that would make Dwane Johnson blush.


 

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NaughtyNihilist #2 Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:57 PM

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I wanted one before. And now I really want one. Lol.

I do think Chinese heavy tanks are severely under rated. I see the similarities between them and the Russians but the 113 plays pretty differently from the IS7 and even more differently than the IS4

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I agree... Faced one in my T32. Even gold rounds could only pen it reliablee abboutt 50%..

 

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Fought one yesterday and it took 3 of us to pin him into a corner, one faced him head on blocking him back into rocks, another faced it at an angle trying to help the first and I practically had to climb on top of it from the roadside and we all were just literally plinking away. It killed the guy facing it, almost killed me and damaged the other guy helping the now dead tank before we brought the beast down.

 

I hate that Chinese tank... :( if they ever remake the movie, "The Beast" they better use a 112.


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View PostMDR 14, on 11 October 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

Fought one yesterday and it took 3 of us to pin him into a corner, one faced him head on blocking him back into rocks, another faced it at an angle trying to help the first and I practically had to climb on top of it from the roadside and we all were just literally plinking away. It killed the guy facing it, almost killed me and damaged the other guy helping the now dead tank before we brought the beast down.

 

I hate that Chinese tank... :( if they ever remake the movie, "The Beast" they better use a 112.

 

Sounds about right really.

 

Bit of advice for fighting them, they are like matchboxes in the back and just "love" a shell to the oil pan.

 

Seriously, carry a fire extinguisher if you own one, they like to burn.


 

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What.......IS......THE....POINT......OF......SUPERTESTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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View PostLIBARYKEEPER483, on 11 October 2017 - 11:05 AM, said:

What.......IS......THE....POINT......OF......SUPERTESTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This isn't the Supertesters fault. PC did it so Console has to do it.

 

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View PostBeta582, on 11 October 2017 - 09:05 AM, said:

 

Sounds about right really.

 

Bit of advice for fighting them, they are like matchboxes in the back and just "love" a shell to the oil pan.

 

Seriously, carry a fire extinguisher if you own one, they like to burn.

 

Sadly we never had the chance to experience getting to the back. We pinned that into the rocks on Kasserine so it was pretty brutal. We lost.
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WHY... ARE... We yelling?
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View PostBeta582, on 11 October 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

 

This isn't the Supertesters fault. PC did it so Console has to do it.

No... We didnt get the Type 5 premium HE shell. It was replaced with a HEAT shell. So WGCB is capable of changing things. 


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View PostMDR 14, on 11 October 2017 - 08:08 AM, said:

WHY... ARE... We yelling?

 

Because SuperTesters allowed such a broken tank through testing, The 131 was bad but this is on a whole new level

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View PostBeta582, on 11 October 2017 - 08:06 AM, said:

 

This isn't the Supertesters fault. PC did it so Console has to do it.

 

They should not let broken stuff like this be able to past testing

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View PostNaughtyNihilist, on 11 October 2017 - 11:08 AM, said:

No... We didnt get the Type 5 premium HE shell. It was replaced with a HEAT shell. So WGCB is capable of changing things. 

 

Fair enough. Although personally, I am much happier with the 15cm gun getting HEAT instead of higher damage Premium HE so I think that was a good change.

 

This thread kind of derailed a bit eh?


 

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View PostBeta582, on 11 October 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

 

Fair enough. Although personally, I am much happier with the 15cm gun getting HEAT instead of higher damage Premium HE so I think that was a good change.

 

This thread kind of derailed a bit eh?

Yeah a bit. Lol. But I do think the HEAT was a great change. 

 

Back on track. I really want a 112. 


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I faced one in my e50 and could barley pen it with GOLD 

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I knew this thread was coming when the TT tier 9 update was set to happen:)

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View PostLIBARYKEEPER483, on 11 October 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

Because SuperTesters allowed such a broken tank through testing, The 131 was bad but this is on a whole new level

 

Well... The Chinese hated them so much they blew them all up in a nuke test. I am all for, (And have been very vocal about it) if it did not serve in a organizational role it should not be allowed in the game period. If it never received am Army Group, Divisional, Brigade, Regiment, Battalion, Company, Squadron Admin Number and or Bumper/Turret Numbers and rolled as part of a formation training or combat it should NOT be allowed in the game.
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View PostLIBARYKEEPER483, on 11 October 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

 

They should not let broken stuff like this be able to past testing

 

I think you are seriously overestimating how much pull Supertesters actually have. I was a Supertester but left the program because Wargaming would disregard a large portion of the feedback they were getting from the Supertesters. Even when almost all the Supertesters at one point were in agreement about something that shouldn't be changed, Wargaming changed it anyways. This is why I place the games faults directly on management.

 

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View PostNaughtyNihilist, on 11 October 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

Yeah a bit. Lol. But I do think the HEAT was a great change. 

 

Back on track. I really want a 112. 

 

Yes. Everyone must experience this overpowered monstrosity!

Plus you will be able to help spread pain to others and potentially seal club at tier 8.

 

Also, it is very difficult for a 112 to fight another 112 now and HEAT is pretty much a necessity.


 

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View PostBeta582, on 11 October 2017 - 09:16 AM, said:

 

Yes. Everyone must experience this overpowered monstrosity!

Plus you will be able to help spread pain to others and potentially seal club at tier 8.

 

Also, it is very difficult for a 112 to fight another 112 now and HEAT is pretty much a necessity.

 

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