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RAD FROOD 25 #21 Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:37 PM

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I've edited 3 tanks into a branch 

 

AMX ERAC Tier 8 Light Tank

AMX 10 PAC 90 Tier 9 Light Tank

AMX 10C Tier 10 Light Tank



P6X330 #22 Posted 06 July 2018 - 07:10 PM

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I had once suggested to have some AMX's 10 implemented, but I was told there were too recent to have their place in WoT;

 

Especially that all the AMX 10's were amphibious, that would have brought a twist to the Gameplay.


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View PostP6X330, on 06 July 2018 - 07:10 PM, said:

I had once suggested to have some AMX's 10 implemented, but I was told there were too recent to have their place in WoT;

 

Especially that all the AMX 10's were amphibious, that would have brought a twist to the Gameplay.

 

Well if they have rifled guns and don't have reactive armour I don't see why not. Amphibious tanks would be fun. 

RAD FROOD 25 #24 Posted 08 July 2018 - 07:50 AM

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Changed the FCM 20T to a Tier 4 Tech Tree

Changed the Bat Chat 1935 to a Tier 3 Tech Tree

Changed the AMC-34 to a Tier 2 Tech Tree



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View PostRAD FROOD 25, on 08 July 2018 - 01:42 AM, said:

 

Well if they have rifled guns and don't have reactive armour I don't see why not. Amphibious tanks would be fun. 

 

Someone told me, at the time, that AMX 10's were too "recent" to be factored into WoT... however, the very first AMX 10 prototype, with the 90 mm gun was being being elaborated at about the same time the 30 was, or no longer after. The hull was all in aluminum...

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RAD FROOD 25 #26 Posted 09 July 2018 - 07:52 AM

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View PostP6X330, on 08 July 2018 - 01:46 PM, said:

 

Someone told me, at the time, that AMX 10's were too "recent" to be factored into WoT... however, the very first AMX 10 prototype, with the 90 mm gun was being being elaborated at about the same time the 30 was, or no longer after. The hull was all in aluminum...

 

yes but too recent isn't really a thing now, the Chieftain Mk 6 was the 60s the M41 Brazilian Bulldog was 80s..... I don't see why not

RAD FROOD 25 #27 Posted 09 July 2018 - 08:22 AM

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I've a friend in france who has been in the french archives and has found a previously unknown french medium tank which was designed in the 1950s...... I shall try to post it here later...... 

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Changed the Somua SM back to a Tier 8 Premium Heavy Tank and Added in AMX 30 Concept as the Replacement Tier 8 Tech Tree Tank

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Don't forget the normal B1 with 40mm armour. The one in game is the B1 bis with 60mm. It'd need to be tier 3 unless you'd want another pz 38H seal clubber.

 

The same applies to the B1 prototype. I can't find much information other than that it had several prototypes of different designs (SRA, SRB, FAHM prototype, tracteur 30 and FCM 21. Possibly more) but a lot of them seem to be described with 40mm armour which I don't think is healthy for tier 2. Although a common note seems to be that they are described as being upgraded to 40mm of armour and I have seen 25-30mm being thrown around. If not there were also some specs for an early turret suggesting it was only 30mm, which could possibly make it play like the KV-220-2.



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View PostRoad Runnerdn, on 13 July 2018 - 01:15 PM, said:

Don't forget the normal B1 with 40mm armour. The one in game is the B1 bis with 60mm. It'd need to be tier 3 unless you'd want another pz 38H seal clubber.

 

The same applies to the B1 prototype. I can't find much information other than that it had several prototypes of different designs (SRA, SRB, FAHM prototype, tracteur 30 and FCM 21. Possibly more) but a lot of them seem to be described with 40mm armour which I don't think is healthy for tier 2. Although a common note seems to be that they are described as being upgraded to 40mm of armour and I have seen 25-30mm being thrown around. If not there were also some specs for an early turret suggesting it was only 30mm, which could possibly make it play like the KV-220-2.

 

The FCM 21 is on the list as a Tier 2

The SRA and the SRB only had Machine Guns in the Turret and a Gun in the Hull so I'd only include them as tier 2 tank destroyers with no gun traverse at all, which sounds awful tbh. 

Tractuer 30? I'm not familiar with this but it could be under a different name

The FAHM Prototype again only had a Machine gun in the Turret with a 75mm howitzer in the centre of the hull, so I'm not really sure it would work.

 

Maybe if the SRA,SRB the FAMH prototype could be moddeled without the Turret, it would be better



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View PostRAD FROOD 25, on 13 July 2018 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

The FCM 21 is on the list as a Tier 2

The SRA and the SRB only had Machine Guns in the Turret and a Gun in the Hull so I'd only include them as tier 2 tank destroyers with no gun traverse at all, which sounds awful tbh. 

Tractuer 30? I'm not familiar with this but it could be under a different name

The FAHM Prototype again only had a Machine gun in the Turret with a 75mm howitzer in the centre of the hull, so I'm not really sure it would work.

 

Maybe if the SRA,SRB the FAMH prototype could be moddeled without the Turret, it would be better

 

I wasn't specifically calling for them to be on the list but rather what tank are you refering to in your list under the name "B1 prototype"?

 

I was merely pointing to the B1 development history/its prototypes and it/their combat capacity, or more specifically it/their armour. Which as far as I can find information on is 40mm (all round). Which I don't think should be on a tier 2.

 

Turrets with just machine guns aren't problematic though as we already have the SAu 40 and ARL V 39. But I agree that the SRA and SRB would be hard to implement because of their gun constraints, although from what I've heard the B1 used a system similar to the STRV 103 to aim its hull mounted 75mm and I would assume these early prototypes also had such in mind.

 

The Tracteur 30 is mentioned on the tank encyclopedia as being a further development of the SRB. But I find that more specific information on the B1 pre-production developmental history to be hard to find.



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View PostRoad Runnerdn, on 13 July 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

 

I wasn't specifically calling for them to be on the list but rather what tank are you refering to in your list under the name "B1 prototype"?

 

I was merely pointing to the B1 development history/its prototypes and it/their combat capacity, or more specifically it/their armour. Which as far as I can find information on is 40mm (all round). Which I don't think should be on a tier 2.

 

Turrets with just machine guns aren't problematic though as we already have the SAu 40 and ARL V 39. But I agree that the SRA and SRB would be hard to implement because of their gun constraints, although from what I've heard the B1 used a system similar to the STRV 103 to aim its hull mounted 75mm and I would assume these early prototypes also had such in mind.

 

The Tracteur 30 is mentioned on the tank encyclopedia as being a further development of the SRB. But I find that more specific information on the B1 pre-production developmental history to be hard to find.

 

https://books.google...ototype&f=false try this link

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View PostRoad Runnerdn, on 13 July 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

 

I wasn't specifically calling for them to be on the list but rather what tank are you refering to in your list under the name "B1 prototype"?

 

I was merely pointing to the B1 development history/its prototypes and it/their combat capacity, or more specifically it/their armour. Which as far as I can find information on is 40mm (all round). Which I don't think should be on a tier 2.

 

Turrets with just machine guns aren't problematic though as we already have the SAu 40 and ARL V 39. But I agree that the SRA and SRB would be hard to implement because of their gun constraints, although from what I've heard the B1 used a system similar to the STRV 103 to aim its hull mounted 75mm and I would assume these early prototypes also had such in mind.

 

The Tracteur 30 is mentioned on the tank encyclopedia as being a further development of the SRB. But I find that more specific information on the B1 pre-production developmental history to be hard to find.

 

Oh I'm not specifically listing all the B1s. But I'm listing them more like, The AMX M4 models or the AMX 50 tanks, you know like the same tank but with upgrade packages but seeing as the B1 has a different armour layout to the B1 bis and the B1 Ter, I thought it was be better to implement them at different tiers. 

 

The B1 was 40mm in parts, the B1 bis was I think 60mm all round and the B1 Ter was 70mm all round if the information I have is correct. So we can balance the B1 prototype with 30mm all round and balance the gun to have shoody gun handling



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Updated the list to include some armoured cars

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View PostRAD FROOD 25, on 25 August 2018 - 12:32 AM, said:

Updated the list to include some armoured cars

 

Do you know if any of the tanks in your list have a chance to ever be implemented?

I noticed you have not crossed out the Somua SM; this one is now available...


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View PostP6X330, on 26 August 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

 

Do you know if any of the tanks in your list have a chance to ever be implemented?

I noticed you have not crossed out the Somua SM; this one is now available...

 

I believe that all of them have a chance, some of the more obscure ones maybe not..... I shall rectify that 

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Removed the Somua SM from the list, and added in the AMX 70T which is an uparmoured version of the AMX 50B

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View PostP6X330, on 26 August 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

 

Do you know if any of the tanks in your list have a chance to ever be implemented?

I noticed you have not crossed out the Somua SM; this one is now available...

 

I would expect see this tanks first, not generally in this order though

 

Lorraine G1-L (Medium Tank) 

AMX M4 Mle 48 (Heavy Tank) 

AMX M4 Mle 54 (Heavy Tank) 

AMX M4 Mle 51 (Heavy Tank) 

AMX 13 FL 11 (Light Tank) 

AMX 65T (Heavy Tank) 

Le Char Tiger 1 (Heavy Tank) 

Panther Type A (Medium Tank) 

Panzerjager R35 (Tank Destroyer) 

ELC Even 90mm (Light Tank) 

AMR P103 (Light Tank) 

Renault R40 (Light Tank)

Somua S-40 (Light Tank)

AMC-34 (Light Tank) 

AMX Canon D'Assaut Lorraine (Tank Destroyer) 

AMX Canon D'Assaut 105 (Tank Destroyer) 

AMX Canon D'Assaut 120 (Tank Destroyer) 



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I'd really like the tier 8 Lorraine premium PC has.

But I think I will have quit the game before it comes to console.

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View PostBigHundy, on 03 September 2018 - 12:25 PM, said:

I'd really like the tier 8 Lorraine premium PC has.

But I think I will have quit the game before it comes to console.

Sad.

 

It shouldn't be a premium tbh it should be either a tier 8 or 9 tech tree tank




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