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Bricemkk #41 Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:38 PM

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View PostDrHorrible4Life, on 03 January 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

 

​I felt the same way about the VKP.  My kv5 premium rounds are only a coinflip to pen its unangled lower plate, and cannot pen the cupola at all.  There is a strip of side armor above the gigantic shell-eating side skirts that I can usually pen if it's completely flat, but I have to pen him 6 times, which takes usually 10 shots fired from my superaccurate Russian gun, and he can pretty much autoaim me 4 times to death with average rolls.  If I try to sidescrape and use my side armor, I can't flank him and therefore cannot penetrate him unless he's just dumb.

 

But that's just 1 bad match-up, everything else is pretty easy for kv5, so I guess I'll just have to adjust.  Although it's stupid that my STA2 gets almost as good standard pen (212) as the kv5's premium pen (219) and gets the same MM.

 

this is just the neglected premium match making premium tanks. They have been forgotten about since wargaming said they wouldn't make anymore. Sadly they are just iconic premiums collecting dust as wargaming creates new non premium matching making premiums.

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View PostBricemkk, on 03 January 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

 

this is just the neglected premium match making premium tanks. They have been forgotten about since wargaming said they wouldn't make anymore. Sadly they are just iconic premiums collecting dust as wargaming creates new non premium matching making premiums.

 

​I think it would be fine with 230 pen premium rounds.  I'd be willing to pay 1000 more credits over what it currently costs if it had a place in the game.  The worst in tier standard pen is actually effective is most cases, but when you face something that REQUIRES more, 219 pen is ALSO almost never good enough.  

 

There are SO many tanks introduced after the KV5 that power creeped it into mediocrity.  A slight buff to it's premium pen is warranted, and I'd gladly trade some of it's profitability for actual effectiveness.  That said, I'm done derailing.

 

 



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View PostBYTORtheSn0wd0g, on 03 January 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

 

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View PostSGT Rock 1963, on 03 January 2018 - 12:38 PM, said:

Thanks RaiBOT, Could you ask them to add the Russian tier 3  M3-Light, To the ingame premium TT. Been 2 years since it was sold alone. 

 

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View PostShark413, on 03 January 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

At least its not a reskin. 

 

Ehh.. WGA will still make a "hero" skin for 1st release before the standard version

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View PostDrHorrible4Life, on 03 January 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

 

​I think it would be fine with 230 pen premium rounds.  I'd be willing to pay 1000 more credits over what it currently costs if it had a place in the game.  The worst in tier standard pen is actually effective is most cases, but when you face something that REQUIRES more, 219 pen is ALSO almost never good enough.  

 

There are SO many tanks introduced after the KV5 that power creeped it into mediocrity.  A slight buff to it's premium pen is warranted, and I'd gladly trade some of it's profitability for actual effectiveness.  That said, I'm done derailing.

 

 

 

i agrre with you the type 59 and super p are no longer the good playable tanks they used to be,now everything pens them and everyone knows where to hit them,they need the channges of pc

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View PostBrogueOne, on 03 January 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

I can tell you that the Chrysler K will not be the same p2w OP tank that PC has when it hits consoles. We’ve had a few premiums ported over from PC that were “rebalanced” for console(Nameless is the first that comes to mind).

 

nameless was over nerfed... and yet sta-2 and panther 8,8 were overbuffed... suffice to say i have no faith in console WG to balance tanks properly

 

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View PostCruiser Abukuma, on 03 January 2018 - 08:08 PM, said:

 

nameless was over nerfed... and yet sta-2 and panther 8,8 were overbuffed... suffice to say i have no faith in console WG to balance tanks properly

C’est Le Vie.  It’s not exclusive to WG Console.  Just ask WoWs players about the Belfast or the Atlanta.



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View PostRaiBOT01, on 03 January 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

Totes. :) 

 

Can the AMX 13/57 be available on the PTT as well while its on sale please?

I've got 30+ empty slots, and would love the option to buy it without one more bundled...



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View PostBrogueOne, on 03 January 2018 - 04:20 PM, said:

C’est Le Vie.  It’s not exclusive to WG Console.  Just ask WoWs players about the Belfast or the Atlanta.

 

but they operate a different game.. we are console tanks.. so wows tech talk and balance doesnt apply to us...

 

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View PostCobravert, on 03 January 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

I don't think this would be a very good tank. But to each his own I guess.

 

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 03 January 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

 

We mentioned on a previous stream we were looking in to maybe bringing the tank in game :)  I'll bring up your request and add it to the current ticket for it.

 

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I have the K on the pc and it is ok. It is only op in the hands of a very good player or when playing against newbies. So newbies will flock to it for parity against other newbies and uni players will rampage for awhile then get bored with it and move on. So I vote for having it added to the console.

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View Postleova, on 03 January 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostRaiBOT01, on 03 January 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

Totes. :) 

 

Can the AMX 13/57 be available on the PTT as well while its on sale please?

I've got 30+ empty slots, and would love the option to buy it without one more bundled...

 

Theirs a Single Tank Option on the Article if that's what you mean :)



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View PostCruiser Abukuma, on 03 January 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

 

but they operate a different game.. we are console tanks.. so wows tech talk and balance doesnt apply to us...

You missed the point.  The fact that we have unbalanced tanks isn’t unique to WoTs Console.  Other WG games also have balance issues(for tanks we usually end up inheriting theirs).  But other non-WG games also have balance issues.  I was never into shooters but there were some notoriously OP weapons in some of those CoD type games.  They all have troubles with over/under buffing/nerfing.

 

Its a systemic issue in virtually every multiplayer game, in part, because balance is highly subjective.  Something one player thinks is garbage will invariably seem overpowered to the player who gets rofl-stomped by it.



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View Postleova, on 03 January 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

Can the AMX 13/57 be available on the PTT as well while its on sale please?

I've got 30+ empty slots, and would love the option to buy it without one more bundled...

 

I would have to bring this to the events team.  

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View PostCruiser Abukuma, on 03 January 2018 - 08:08 PM, said:

 

nameless was over nerfed... and yet sta-2 and panther 8,8 were overbuffed... suffice to say i have no faith in console WG to balance tanks properly

 

I’m not sure I understand what youre saying here. Are you saying the sta2 and panther 8.8 are too powerful? Wotinfo shows the panther as one of the worst performing tier 8 premiums on both xbox and ps4. The sta2 is roughly scraping into the top 3rd but on both consoles the Nameless is comfortably outperforming it.

 

 



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View Postsulla1111, on 03 January 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

 

I’m not sure I understand what youre saying here. Are you saying the sta2 and panther 8.8 are too powerful? Wotinfo shows the panther as one of the worst performing tier 8 premiums on both xbox and ps4. The sta2 is roughly scraping into the top 3rd but on both consoles the Nameless is comfortably outperforming it.

 

 

 

are you sure your looking at the same wotinfo lol all I see is all variants of the sta-2 outperforming every other premium tank at tier 8 wn8 wise and the nameless is roughly above average performing but you have to consider the only people that even still play the tank thanks to WG over nerfing it are skilled players that just don't care about the nerfs so I think the wn8 for the tank is definitely a bit inflated and should be lower imo

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Just play the VK100.01 that should be op enough.....

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View PostKoneko Da Best, on 03 January 2018 - 11:55 PM, said:

 

are you sure your looking at the same wotinfo lol all I see is all variants of the sta-2 outperforming every other premium tank at tier 8 wn8 wise and the nameless is roughly above average performing but you have to consider the only people that even still play the tank thanks to WG over nerfing it are skilled players that just don't care about the nerfs so I think the wn8 for the tank is definitely a bit inflated and should be lower imo

 

I think youre shaping the stats to fill your argument. You could just as easily say the sta is better for stat padding but doesnt actually win games as often as the nameless because it has a much narrower band of usefulness in the game. It certainly hits more tanks and kills more tanks but win8 doesnt tell us anything about whether it contributes by spotting or whether it only gets those extra hits because it is one of the last tanks alive in losing battles because it was camped well behind the frontlines.

 

If you look at all the stats combined, not just the one where mediums traditionally  sta performs in about the top third but generally not much higher. It overperforms in damage dealt but underperforms in spotted for example. I just don’t think you can honestly say it is overbuffed on the strength of it being top of the chart on one measured stat.

 

I think ultimately, it depends on what we are looking for in tanks and our own playstyle. 






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