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GrowlmonDrgnbutt #1 Posted 11 January 2018 - 08:50 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 12 January 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

We understand that a lot of players have been using PC sources and videos to judge the upcoming tank, Object 252U Defender. We want you to know that the version that exist on PC is not the same version that is coming to Console. Based on Internal and Supertest balance testing, the following is a list of differences between the PC version and the Console version of this tank. We hope this clears up the speculation and look forward to your feedback once the tank goes Live!

 

These changes still preserve the tanks near impenetrable upper hull armor making it an excellent front line tank to get up close and personal with the enemy to deliver its 440 damage payload. 

 

Console specific changes:

Lower front hull armor: 140mm -> 130mm
RoF: 4.0 -> 3.87
Chassis rotation: 30 -> 28
Shot dispersion: 0.44 -> 0.47
After shot dispersion: 3 -> 4
Aim time: 3.2 -> 3.4


Tank Characteristics:
Matchmaking: Plays up to Tier 10
50% Silver Bonus Earn
10% XP Bonus
Hit Points: 1500
Engine Power: 700 hp
Power/Weight Ratio: 13.59 hp/ton
Speed Limit: 35 km/h
Hull Traverse Speed: 28 deg/sec
Hull Armor: 130/100/90
Turret Armor: 250/150/100
Turret Traverse Speed: 24 deg/sec
Penetration: 225/265/68
Damage: 440/440/530
Aim Time: 3.4 sec
Accuracy: 0.47
Gun Caliber: 122 mm
Rate of Fire: 3.87 rounds/min
Max Ammo Capacity: 30 rounds
View Range: 350 m
Signal Range: 730 m

Basically the same treatment as the Nameless here, at this point it has been nerfed to the point that it's not viable.  At this point I can firmly say DO NOT BUY.

 

 

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Metalrodent #2 Posted 11 January 2018 - 08:55 PM

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It was pretty much universally accepted on PC that this thing was overpowered, I think a IS-7 hull at tier VIII is quite justified to have poor stats elsewhere.

 

Though lets be honest here, .13 difference is hardly a nerf worth complaining about.


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Object 252U Pre-Nerfed?

OH HAPPY DAYS!!!!

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Well at least I was happy for a little bit, nerfs a nerf I suppose


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This tank was blatantly and horrifically overpowered when it was released on PC. So any changes to make this tank less powerful are good in my eyes. The higher price should be expected, however. It's what they do anymore. Nerf or buff the tank and charge much more for it and hope the idiots don't notice.

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Queue the angry players who couldn't play their way out of paper bag and figure they can just throw money at the problem. 

 

Not that it matters, y'all have a Tiger 131 that is tier for tier more OP than anything on PC. So enjoy.


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View PostMetalrodent, on 11 January 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:

It was pretty much universally accepted on PC that this thing was overpowered, I think a IS-7 hull at tier VIII is quite justified to have poor stats elsewhere.

 

Though lets be honest here, .13 difference is hardly a nerf worth complaining about.

 

Well yeah that's obvious.  Except why the already abysmal DPM of all things?  We can't see the actual 3D model until we inspect it in-game, and even then you can't look at the EXACT number, so it could be 30mm less and be the same color code.  An armor nerf plus the DPM nerf would be too much.  If anything they should have buffed the DPM slightly and nerfed the lower plate dramatically.  Either way this has to be posted for anyone expecting it to be the same as on PC, considering it has the DPM of a tier 6.


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Was gonna buy it now I’m not

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Because the forums are for trolling not the acquisition of knowledge...

 

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View Postitz JUST JOSHIN, on 11 January 2018 - 09:02 PM, said:

Was gonna buy it now I’m not

 

0.13

 

My god people this is the tiniest thing. Your hideously OP vehicle is still hideously OP.


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Oh no, a 3.25% decrease in dpm. It'll be totally underpowered now.

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Originally it's rate of fire on PC was 3.75

Then they buffed it to 4 on PC... they give us 3.87...so it looks like they went middle of the road here.



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The 252U was bumped up from 3.75 to 4.00 rate of fire after it initial debut on PC.  I think WG console is doing the right thing by starting it in the middle at 3.87 RoF to see how balance it is, before making any changes.  I know WG does not like nerfing permium tanks bc of customer backlash, but existing customers never complaint about a buff to their investment.  Therefore, their best option to make sure the end product will be balanced, while keeping the customer happy is to release the tank slightly nerfed to see how it is performing.  If performing poorly, they can always boost the rate of fire to improve its performance.  Otherwise, if it is over performing....they can't really make it balance without pissing off customers.

 

That's my take anyways.....


 


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It's still going to be a monstrously powerful tank. 

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Also Defender tankopedia value 10,950, cheapest package for us 14,000

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I'd rather they needed the armor a bit and kept the reload. I think the ISU-152's 152mm has a faster reload..

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I said the version we'd get wouldn't be OP. I was right, and that's the way it should be. It still looks good to me. 

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View Posttaggarz365, on 11 January 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

Also Defender tankopedia value 10,950, cheapest package for us 14,000

 

Are you surprised? Gotta milk that reskin money..... For assets they didn't even make. 



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View PostMetalrodent, on 11 January 2018 - 04:04 PM, said:

 

0.13

 

My god people this is the tiniest thing. Your hideously OP vehicle is still hideously OP.

 

So do you want him to buy it or not?  Let the thread do its job and you'll see less of these on the battlefield.

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View PostRarefication, on 11 January 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

I said the version we'd get wouldn't be OP. I was right, and that's the way it should be. It still looks good to me. 

 

A 3.25% decrease in dpm isn't going to make it not OP. 


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View PostTempest fox3, on 11 January 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:

 

A 3.25% decrease in dpm isn't going to make it not OP. 

 

I hope it does, sincerely. I HATE playing my Tiger 131 because it's too user friendly. 




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