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Cruiser Abukuma #41 Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:48 PM

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View Postmarkyjmeech, on 11 January 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

 

this would give the tanks a proper realistic test but i doubt will ever happen 

 

of course not.. why? cause we were told that the marketing department likes their surprises... and doesnt want people to know of upcoming tanks/promotions.. which imo is heavily anti-consumer and is bad business practice... every other WG title test premiums in the live environment before release to see how they play, and whether or not they are balanced.. but ever since ST had the inclusion of training rooms the quality of feedback dropped off because you have people who merely looked at the tank, tried to pen an odd tier X or two, then made a case saying that the tank is either overpowered or underpowered... I want quality to come back to Supertest.. but unfortunately I may never be able to rejoin the program due to conflicts of interest between max and myself.. 

 

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Pawel Broda 73 #42 Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:49 PM

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Mechanics on Pc. 

The commander (trained to 100%) give bonus to his crew +10%. ( for loader for example) 

That mean the difference is bigger then 0.13 rather about 0,35 and still growing when we applied rammer,  vents,  BiA and extra combat rations... 

 

Did you seen?

Turning hull PC 30 deg per sec

Console 28 deg per second

 

The Defender's reload time is close to SU-100Y. 

I'm sorry for my bad feeling and sceptism. 

 

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Sohbrikay #43 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:43 AM

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View PostPawel Broda 73, on 11 January 2018 - 10:49 PM, said:

Mechanics on Pc. 

Blah blah blah

 

So what? Compare PC to console? Welcome to the pointless exercise!

 

PC and console play very differently so there will be, well, differences.

Console is not a plain port of PC, it just wouldn't work.


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MazingerDUDE #44 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:54 AM

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I thought console tanks generally have slower reload time compared to the PC ones.

Teffisk #45 Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:32 AM

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This is exactly what I thought they should do with it!!! I stated 2 weeks ago, nerfing it's dpm would let people keep all the things people like about it- alpha, armor, etc. Seems like the best course of action to me.

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View PostTeffisk, on 12 January 2018 - 01:32 AM, said:

This is exactly what I thought they should do with it!!! I stated 2 weeks ago, nerfing it's dpm would let people keep all the things people like about it- alpha, armor, etc. Seems like the best course of action to me.

 

The nerf is nothing more than a token gesture, seriously it's a 3.25% nerf. That means nothing at all in the scheme of things. And it still has higher fire rate that it had when released on PC. (pc released it with 3.75 then buffed it to 4.0, ours has 3.87)


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View PostTempest fox3, on 12 January 2018 - 01:39 AM, said:

 

The nerf is nothing more than a token gesture, seriously it's a 3.25% nerf. That means nothing at all in the scheme of things. And it still has higher fire rate that it had when released on PC. (pc released it with 3.75 then buffed it to 4.0, ours has 3.87)

Let's not forget they still want them to sell like hot cakes



fozfactor #48 Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:50 AM

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With the 252's reload, and the Mle.49's weakness to HE and propensity to catch fire when shot in the side, I wonder what flaw the Patriot will provide? These are actually good things that require precious equipment choices or crew skills to mitigate. Balance. Sort of.
 

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Yeah, they also nerfed the hull traverse. Oh well, that's $62 I'll save in the long run by not buying it. This month I'll get the AMX M4 mle 49, since it was brought over unaltered.
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taggarz365 #50 Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:12 AM

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View PostRatPatrol68, on 11 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

 

Incorrect.

 

Tankopedia gold cost is 13,940

Correct. I was comparing to PC



MetalSkull21 #51 Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:52 AM

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I’ll miss that whole extra 60 dpm :’(

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They nerfed the part of the tank that isn't what makes it OP.

WG logic :teethhappy:



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A slight nerf to the dpm and chassis rotation is welcome, but the tank should still be very strong.  It's on my buy list.

 

As for the Patriot, it looks to be good, but not really OP, imo.  Compared to the T32 running a 90mm it has a weaker turret and stronger glacis with better standard ammo, but weaker APCR.  Sounds roughly equal to me.  I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.  The armor is definitely nowhere near the level of the Defender.


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View PostDecoNoir, on 11 January 2018 - 09:01 PM, said:

Queue the angry players who couldn't play their way out of paper bag and figure they can just throw money at the problem. 

 

Not that it matters, y'all have a Tiger 131 that is tier for tier more OP than anything on PC. So enjoy.

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Well. 252 gun is  nerfed: Accuracy: 0.47 (vs. 0.43), Aim time: 3.4 (vs 3.2)

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View Postssusechka, on 12 January 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

Well. 252 gun is  nerfed: Accuracy: 0.47 (vs. 0.43), Aim time: 3.4 (vs 3.2)

Where’d you get that info from?



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cant wait to shoot this pay to be op tank :justwait:
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View PostMetalSkull21, on 12 January 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

Where’d you get that info from?

 

 ​It was published on Russian forum today. Was also cross-posted here: ​http://forum-console...72#entry4207972

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Aiming time 3.4 (3.2 on pc)

accuracy: 0.47 (0.44 on pc)

shots per minute: 3.87 (4 on pc)

 

Well done for nerfing Obj 252U to hell and beyond. Unfortunately people not buying the tank will be very few comparing to the "hurr durr gonna get me the shiny new premium" crowd.



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View Postvampyrii, on 12 January 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

Aiming time 3.4 (3.2 on pc)

accuracy: 0.47 (0.44 on pc)

shots per minute: 3.87 (4 on pc)

 

Well done for nerfing Obj 252U to hell and beyond. Unfortunately people not buying the tank will be very few comparing to the "hurr durr gonna get me the shiny new premium" crowd.

Probably still gonna buy it to be honest. That accuracy and aim time wont matter at <50 meters, where the tank should be played.






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