u might be right just got a feeling the patriot will be a far better clubber.
u might be right just got a feeling the patriot will be a far better clubber.
greenteam117, on 12 January 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:
you say compare it to a is-7, well lets see wile over here we will do the IS-5 and T-10
Object252U/IS-7 IS-5/T-10/Stock T-10
Turret Armor: 250/240 Turret Armor: 201/250/201
Hull Armor: 130/150 Hull Armor: 120/120/120
Damage: 440/490 Damage: 390/440/390
Pen: 225/250 Pen: 221/258/175
so IS-7 has: IS-5 has(Vs fully upgraded T-10): IS-5 has (Vs Stock T-10):
10 less turret armor 49 less turret armor same turret armor
20 more hull armor same hull armor same hull armor
50 more damage 50 less damage same damage
25 more pen 37 less pen 46 more pen
IS-7 beats the Object252U in 3 stats on paper T-10 (TIER 9) beats IS-5 in 3 stats and ties on IS-5 Beats a stock T-10 in pen but is on par
but if you want to compare them soo badly the 4th on paper. with everything else, so by your logic
why dont you get the Object 252U the IS-5 is on par with a tier 9 tank and there for
and go 1vs1 with a IS-7 and tell me who wins should not be compared with tier 8s
for fun lets do a M4A1 Rev VS M4 Sherman!
M4A1 Rev/M4 sherman
Turret Armor: 64/64
Hull Armor: 51/51
Damage: 390/410
Pen: 200/53
M4A1 Rev and M4 Sherman tie in stats, which by your logic means you should not compare the M4A1 Rev to a tier 8 since it has the stats of a Tier 5.
This ^^^ You are only confirming my original assessment - the Defender is a nerfed IS7. Your own comparison shows a TIER X that is barely ahead of a TIER VIII. Also notice you have not included any mobility stats that fundamentally the more important in 1v1 engagements.
Time to eat your own words ... carefully now
And where are the stats on the other Tech Tree Tier 8s??? Where is the IS-3 and IS3A in all this? Or you only cherry pick stats that suit your argument eh?
vampyrii, on 13 January 2018 - 09:58 AM, said:
I am amazed no one said so far, that the VK100.01 P is so much better than this nerfed to death version of the Defender. Same alpha damage but faster reload, better gun handling, some might say even superior armor. And you don't need real money to get one.
Have any comments on the Turret traverse, track traverse and mobility between the two?
Snorelacks, on 13 January 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:
I think I saw it mentioned somewhere though. That cupola on the VK100 is not a "weak point" that I've been able to consistently exploit in any of my T6 or T7 tanks.
I have wrecked VK by firing on it cupola and getting multiple hits. Need 200+ pen tho.
EDIT: The issue with the VK is that it cannot get out of trouble fast enough. It cannot even turn its turret fast enough to throw off shots. Very easy to aim and reliable pen up there as long as your base pen is high enough.
Edited by II NO x VICE II, 14 January 2018 - 02:59 PM.
Rarefication, on 14 January 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:
I look forward to the reviews of the 252u come Monday.
lol me too, Patriot i expect to be an OP Review but Defender i don't think CC's will be too happy.
Metalrodent, on 12 January 2018 - 10:36 PM, said:
Rly ? It lower plater are so huge compared to other IS version it literaly impossible to miss.
Also, lower plate are so high, that your autoaim will send your shells into it.
LucidTie, on 16 January 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:
Lemme walk you through it, pick up your controller, I know this is unusual and I know the urge to throw the controller as usual is strong, but stick with me. Now look at the left stick, this moves the tank, using this you can maneuver the tank into positions where you are hiding the LFP, you're welcome
Chimonakimi, on 16 January 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:
Lemme walk you through it, pick up your controller, I know this is unusual and I know the urge to throw the controller as usual is strong, but stick with me. Now look at the left stick, this moves the tank, using this you can maneuver the tank into positions where you are hiding the LFP, you're welcome
Nice guide, you should make YouTube videos or something.
Chimonakimi, on 16 January 2018 - 03:16 AM, said:
Lemme walk you through it, pick up your controller, I know this is unusual and I know the urge to throw the controller as usual is strong, but stick with me. Now look at the left stick, this moves the tank, using this you can maneuver the tank into positions where you are hiding the LFP, you're welcome
Hey man some of use driver controls so your guide is invalid.
Also the Defender performs just fine as is even with the nerfs its a really good tank.
IAmJonReaper, on 16 January 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:
Hey man some of use driver controls so your guide is invalid.
Also the Defender performs just fine as is even with the nerfs its a really good tank.
I use driver too, find it wayyyy easier. In that case, here's how it works:
Pick up the controller, make a screeching noise and press B / Circle while crying over the lack of seal clubbing abilities
Not saying much about the tank being nerfed in general, know very well that it's considered OP on PC.
But really, a gun that makes your gameplay become:
wait 15 sec for reload
spend last 3.4 seconds of that reload eating shots from your target(s)
miss hit the ground
wait again 15 sec
eat shots
hit some innocent bird that happened to fly by
wait 15 sec
eat shots
hit the most armored spot on the enemy tank (that was like 5 yards from where you aimed)
wait 15 sec
eat shots
hit the ground again
and just keep repeating like this until your dead seems like a very boring and frustrating tank to play. Why on earth would anyone want to play that and much less pay to play that?
Chimonakimi, on 16 January 2018 - 07:12 AM, said:
I use driver too, find it wayyyy easier. In that case, here's how it works:
Pick up the controller, make a screeching noise and press B / Circle while crying over the lack of seal clubbing abilities
LOL
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