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[JoeDaFrogman]

pr0fit0fcanabis, on 13 Jusedanuary 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

Interesting.  I would love to see it.  What metric did he use to identify good players? Was it the wn8 system? 

 

he used a winrate>55%IIRC

[pr0fit0fcanabis]

JoeDaFrogman, on 14 January 2018 - 02:36 AM, said:

 

he used a winrate>55%IIRC

He used the player win rate to compare their games to total games played in that tank and found more.than 50% of the games were played by people with a win rate over 55%? Is that correct? 

[vampyrii]

Since we are pro-nerf now, how about we nerf some stupitidly (sic) OP mediums for better balance? What, no? Don't wanna lose your WN8 crutches eh?

[SlagInGristle]

So one is a is6 with better armor and the other is a Pershing with a decent gun?

 

tankbowl looks fun this year I will participate since my exit from the sand trap is coming. 

 

Anyone sick of the nerf this buff this talk? We rolled thru the lines and saw a survivor nearly gone from blood loss.... he said it wasn’t fair. I replied “ which part? Us winning or you loosing?” He said they didn’t have weapons like we did. I replied “ Exactly, that’s why we won and had it been fair we probably never would have attacked.”

 

While wot isn’t a simulator - challenges, and therefore - the reason winning is desirable, are part of any game. 

 

Nerfing the queen just made it into checkers.

[R35T NO MORE]

vampyrii, on 14 January 2018 - 09:26 AM, said:

Since we are pro-nerf now, how about we nerf some stupitidly (sic) OP mediums for better balance? What, no? Don't wanna lose your WN8 crutches eh?

 

I play heavies mainly  also don't need a crutch most battles i have in any tank is around 450-500 and i've played alot of tanks. Nice try though. 

[NewOhmen]

R35T NO MORE, on 13 January 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Just read about the nerfs to the Defender. It's great to see you guys learn from some of PCs mistakes. That tank would have been far too powerful and although some will be annoyed, it is a great decision for the game. Most tier 6s and 7s wouldn't have stood a chance against it and at least now they can flank or just stay at range, and tanks should now be able to pen the lower plate without needing stupid amounts of pen. 

 

I'm hoping you guys also adjust the Chrysler K when it is added, i'm now confident that you will  

 

Good Job at WG^^???? WG nerv only the Defender!! The OP Patriot come 1vs1 from the PC.. this is brainless... when WG must nerv the patriot, too!

 

So WG destroy more and more the Balance... this is no good job!!!!

[R35T NO MORE]

NewOhmen, on 14 January 2018 - 11:31 AM, said:

 

Good Job at WG^^???? WG nerv only the Defender!! The OP Patriot come 1vs1 from the PC.. this is brainless... when WG must nerv the patriot, too!

 

So WG destroy more and more the Balance... this is no good job!!!!

 

Them nerfing 1 is better than nerfing none. Have to take the wins you get. I was expecting them both to arrive untouched. 

[vampyrii]

R35T NO MORE, on 14 January 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

I play heavies mainly  also don't need a crutch most battles i have in any tank is around 450-500 and i've played alot of tanks. Nice try though. 

 

Correct on recognizing the "rustle jimmies" comment , wrong on the assumption that it was meant for you.

[R35T NO MORE]

vampyrii, on 14 January 2018 - 12:19 PM, said:

 

Correct on recognizing the "rustle jimmies" comment , wrong on the assumption that it was meant for you.

Well that just burst my narcissistic bubble lol  

[Joco3000]

vampyrii, on 14 January 2018 - 09:26 AM, said:

Since we are pro-nerf now, how about we nerf some stupitidly (sic) OP mediums for better balance? What, no? Don't wanna lose your WN8 crutches eh?

I've always been pro-balance,  and I will advocate nerfs or buffs for anything.

You have a list of things that you think are overpowered? 

[desouza1971]

Joco3000, on 14 January 2018 - 07:59 AM, said:

I've always been pro-balance,  and I will advocate nerfs or buffs for anything.

You have a list of things that you think are overpowered? 

 

wouldn't it be nice to see T10 TDs balanced?

Could start with the 183 and the waffle.

Also,  a buff to the Matty BP and T34 heavy would be nice. 

2 nerfs and 2 buffs a month until we have balance would be wonderful,  Joco

[Joco3000]

desouza1971, on 14 January 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

wouldn't it be nice to see T10 TDs balanced?

Yes, it would.

desouza1971, on 14 January 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

Could start with the 183 and the waffle.

Fantastic place to start.

desouza1971, on 14 January 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

Also,  a buff to the Matty BP and T34 heavy would be nice. 

Sure. There are good reasons why I don't play either.

desouza1971, on 14 January 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

2 nerfs and 2 buffs a month until we have balance would be wonderful,  Joco

Why only two?

 

There is one major issue, however.

Well, two. Spreadsheets and rabid fanboys.

[desouza1971]

Joco3000, on 14 January 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

Yes, it would.

Fantastic place to start.

Sure. There are good reasons why I don't play either.

Why only two?

 

There is one major issue, however.

Well, two. Spreadsheets and rabid fanboys.

 

you're totally right,  Joco!

We can only hope

[DecoNoir]

Joco3000, on 14 January 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Yes, it would.

Fantastic place to start.

Sure. There are good reasons why I don't play either.

Why only two?

 

There is one major issue, however.

Well, two. Spreadsheets and rabid fanboys.

 

I think that's something that needs to be gotten through to WG a bit. Just because something is technically 'balanced' on their spreadsheet doesn't necessarily make it fun to face. WTE-100 easily gets obliterated by a couple Tier Xs, sure, but that same machine will tear apart the poor Tier 8s that get thrown into a match with it. Conqueror Gun Carriage may not hit every shot and have a longer than hell reload, but it can still kill half the crew of a guy who maybe even be behind fairly solid cover and doing nothing really wrong. Adjustment isn't going to 'ruin' machines at the drop of a hat, but can probably make them less frustrating to play as and against.

[DrHorrible4Life]

I'd like to see the meta shift seasonally.  A few adjustments to a few lines, then an entire season to evaluate the data before repeating the process with a new meta in mind.  While off-putting to some who want the game to never change, the idea that all tanks will eventually have their season to shine in the spotlight might add a little life to the game for those who find the current meta trends to be stale or stagnant.

[II NO x VICE II]

DrHorrible4Life, on 14 January 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

I'd like to see the meta shift seasonally.  A few adjustments to a few lines, then an entire season to evaluate the data before repeating the process with a new meta in mind.  While off-putting to some who want the game to never change, the idea that all tanks will eventually have their season to shine in the spotlight might add a little life to the game for those who find the current meta trends to be stale or stagnant.

 

One of the issues that I see is that WG Console expends so much energy and effort into always keeping players guessing. It is therefore not easy to see where they are going since they likely end up doing many things differently than PC anyways. Players then use PC as a comparison point and then berate WG for not doing x because it was done for PC.

 

IMO - if only WG could build credible presence around the community of folks who make an effort to stay active in the forums. I don't care about opposition to a viewpoint, since no one direction will ever please a segment of opinions that band together. Rather, just building a cohesive community oriented feedback system can do wonders for the meta since console has its own distinct meta and momentum.

 

That said, I simply do not see the console WG being open and honest (I do not speak ill about the forum admins, rather the suits, or powers that be), I do not see them make significant efforts towards sharing with the community. IMO, this is detrimental to the game long term and will cause sporadic shifts in the game meta based on decisions taken in a smoke filled room with zero input from the player community. This will also contribute much to increase the negativity in the long run.

Edited by II NO x VICE II, 14 January 2018 - 08:41 PM.