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MASHMAN 90 #21 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:58 PM

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View PostLiteralComic635, on 19 January 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

I am heavily grinding the last 130 k XP on my OBJ 430 II with the bonus Team USSR Op, already have the T-10 and IS 7 in the garage so looking like I am in a good position for the line changes if and when they come. Very cool!

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Cool, XP Values now added :)



MASHMAN 90 #22 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:58 PM

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View PostTL24, on 19 January 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

Object 705 and Object 705A is all I want.

 

Nice, XP Added if you need to free XP your way there :)

MASHMAN 90 #23 Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:35 PM

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Asked Max about Light Tanks and said this after seeing my XP Research on Soviets.

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 Remember that we aren’t PC and haven't been following how they change our vehicles. We do things a bit differently.
 

We didn't do what PC did with the Tier X's lights. What they did was pretty different to how we implemented them.
 

Everything was different, we balanced the tanks differently, set up the branches differently, and our compensation/replacement was all different.

 

^ so Soviets "could" be different too but best to go for IS for IS-M, Object 430, T-10 (IS-7 for easier grind later), Object 263 (but would only get Tier 9+10 for free with no new lines) anyway just in case

 

This isn't a criticism at Max either but just so your aware that none of my impressions above are concrete but simply a guideline on what i believe will happen. Do these at your own risk but i'm 64,000 XP from the T-10 so i'll be doing the Soviet grinds just in case, fairly confident the Foch B, Super Conqueror and Badger will be branched from my own beliefs but i stress to do it at your own risk and none of what i have said should be taken as 100% fact except the WZ-111-5A coming in February and Super Conqueror later this year, both in which has been confirmed and the XP Values of said Vehicles. :)



MASHMAN 90 #24 Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:15 PM

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If 9.20.1 is later this year then 9.20 has to come before then so the next major update (9.20) should contain the Foch B and the Chinese Tank Destroyers.

Then 9.20.1 later this year will contain the Super Conqueror

 

Unknown date if it's very late this year or early next year then 9.21 which will contain the FV217 Badger and French Heavies

 

And lastly the current 9.22 patch on PC which are the Soviet Changes.

We don't know how WB will address these changes as they do things different to PC but that seems to be the plan.

 

https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/community/battheroes-0122/

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/QuickyBabyTV/playlists?sort=dd&view=1&shelf_id=7



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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 22 January 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

If 9.20.1 is later this year then 9.20 has to come before then so the next major update (9.20) should contain the Foch B and the Chinese Tank Destroyers.

Then 9.20.1 later this year will contain the Super Conqueror

 

Unknown date if it's very late this year or early next year then 9.21 which will contain the FV217 Badger and French Heavies

 

And lastly the current 9.22 patch on PC which are the Soviet Changes.

We don't know how WB will address these changes as they do things different to PC but that seems to be the plan.

 

https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/community/battheroes-0122/

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/QuickyBabyTV/playlists?sort=dd&view=1&shelf_id=7

 

so do you think that maybe chinese td come in february with the new chinese heavy?

shootlessjoe #26 Posted 23 January 2018 - 12:12 AM

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I looked into what they said about this. Now I have stopped the grid on my Object 416 because I wanted the T-54 line. I did hate that the rear turret doesn't help me much when playing. However, despite the rear turret, the gun on it was pretty nice on it which made for good games. I didn't like how bad the armor was on the tank. I saw some flaws with the tank but it was a better option over the T-44. T-44 I have noticed, gets played a lot more due to the turret and other benefits it has. The lower profile to me made the 416 such a better tank. 

 

When I read what they plan on changing on PC, it makes me wonder if I should grind the 416 again and run that entire line down to the tier 10. Seeing that they plan on keeping both tanks and what they did with the light tanks, I wonder if I should spend my time grinding away again on a tank I was hoping not to touch again. Anyone got thoughts about this new change? They say the gun is impressive but at the lack of reload time. Great armor, decent mobility, and it's a new tier 10 tank.  



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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 19 January 2018 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

Nice, a realistic target for me is SU-101 and IS-3 where i'm at now but need to buy them back, Got Fatherland back too to practice with :)

T-10 and Object 263 are my targets, IS-7 never really interested me but the Object 705A looks interesting.

 

​If you're interested of Object 263 you should get it sooner than later... IMO, they are destroying that vehicle when/if they drop down one tier. Now it has accurate gun and fantastic DPM, if they drop it down to tier 9 it has neither. Personally, I'm very angry about those changes to Object 263 line.

MASHMAN 90 #28 Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:08 AM

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View PostDenserFlyer173, on 22 January 2018 - 11:30 PM, said:

 

so do you think that maybe chinese td come in february with the new chinese heavy?

 

Not sure but never know, no date for them but the PC update after is what we get later this year so Mid this year is a realistic conclusion.

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 19 January 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

Posting here as mostly Soviet based and no idea where to add.
Looking like we will be getting a few new tanks in the future so let's see what you guys may need.
* = On PC it was a replacement vehicle and got the X for free but feel it will be branched on Console
** = New Additions (if you want the top tier on Day One, Use Free XP)
*** = PC Changes I feel will be exactly the same
CHINA
WZ-111-4 ---> WZ-111-5A (198,000 XP) *** - February 2018
Chinese Tank Destroyers
FRANCE
Foch ---> Foch B (290,000 XP) *
AMX M4 45 ---> AMX 65t (62,500 XP) ---> AMX M4 51 (151,700 XP) ---> AMX M4 54 (182,000 XP) ** (Likely Mid/Late 2018)
UK
Tortoise ---> FV217 Badger (235,000 XP) *
Conqueror ---> Super Conqueror (255,000 XP) *
(Confirmed Mid/Late 2018)
SOVIETS *** (All in this list)
MEDIUM
T-44 ---> Object 430 (142,950 XP)
Object 430 ---> Object 430 U (287,000 XP)
If the Object 430 is researched then will get Object 430 U researched
If the Object 430 is in your garage then will get Object 430 U and Object 430 II for free
MOE/Aces will remain on the Tier X Object 430
Object 416 ---> Object 430 II (150,500 XP)
Object 416 ---> Object 430 II ---> New ? Tier X
Object 430 <--- Tier IX
Object 430U ---> Tier X
HEAVY
IS ---> IS-M ---> Object 705 ---> Object 705A
IS ---> IS-M (58,000 XP)
IS-M ---> Object 705 (144,500 XP)
Object 705 ---> Object 705A (162,300 XP)
Object 705, 122 mm shares the same gun as the Object 257 so if you have the T-10 or IS-7 then may reduce the cost of the gun
Object 705, 130 mm Main Armament has the same gun as the IS-7 so if you have it then may reduce the cost of the gun by 61,000 XP
T-10 being moved
If the T-10 is researched then will get Object 257 researched
If the T-10 is in your garage then will get Object 257 and T-10 for free
Note: If IS-7 is researched then Tank XP will remain on the T-10
Note: If IS-7 is not researched then Tank XP will go to the Object 257
IS-3 ---> Object 257 (142,700 XP)
IS-3 ---> T-10 (164,700 XP)
IS-3 ---> T-10 ---> ? Tier X
TANK DESTROYER
SU-101 ---> Object 263 (152,800 XP)
Object 263 ---> Object 268 IV (215,300 XP)
SU-122-54 being removed
Object 263 <--- Tier IX
Object 268 IV ---> Tier X
If the Object 263 is researched then will get Object 268 IV researched
If the Object 263 is in your garage then will get Object 268 IV and Object 263 for free
MOE/Aces will remain on the Tier X Object 263

OBJECT 430 U
OBJECT 705A
OBJECT 268 V4

 

Great job thank u verry much 



MASHMAN 90 #30 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:40 PM

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PC Armour changes to Object 705 + Object 257

 

https://thedailybounce.net/2018/01/25/world-of-tanks-9-22-object-705-object-257-armour-changes/



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https://thedailybounce.net/2018/01/25/world-of-tanks-9-22-common-test-round-2-patch-notes/

 

Changes to the technical characteristics

U.S.S.R. vehicles:

  • Object 705A
    • Changed penetration of the UBK551O shell for the 152 mm M-51 gun from 310 mm to 317 mm
  • Object 257
    • Changed penetration of the BP-471BM shell for the 122 mm BL-13-1 A gun from 340 mm to 315 mm
    • Decreased the side armour
  • Object 705
    • Added the final model of the standard turret
    • Increased dispersion on turret traverse by 25%
    • Changed penetration of the BP-471BM shell for the 122 mm BL-13-1 A gun from 340 mm to 315 mm
  • Object 430
    • Changed penetration of the BP-471BM shell for the 122 mm D-25TSU gun from 248 mm to 270 mm
  • Object 705А
    • Insignificantly improved the frontal hull armouring
  • Object 268 Version 4
    • Insignificantly improved the frontal hull armouring


MASHMAN 90 #32 Posted 28 January 2018 - 10:49 PM

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Had a "mini" thought about what Console may do different to PC, once again may not be 100% accurate but "what if"
SU-101 ---> Object 263 (152,800 XP)
Object 263 ---> Object 268 IV (215,300 XP)
Becomes
SU-101 ---> SU-122-54 (Same XP)
SU-122-54 ---> Object 268 IV (215,300 XP)
So instead of changing/nerfing the 263, simply branch it from the SU-122-54? This is a thought I've had for 5 minutes literally but not beyond the realms either as this change isn't as big as Mediums or Heavies.
Would still expect the buffs though.
^ Should be taken as fictional


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Final 130 k XP completed on my Object 430 II. Now I just need an open garage slot to buy the Object 430!

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Circonflexes

 



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Super psyched for any new tt Soviet heavies incoming, eventually. I bought back my IS and have grinded 47,941 xp thus far. I  have the T-10 but need 162,000 to unlock the IS-7 and will need to grind another 200,000+ xp on top of that to be ready for the new Soviet tier ten. Lots of work to be done. But I will be prepared. I hope WG figures out a way to make the Object 257 a balanced, yet dangerous, heavy. Great days to be a Soviet heavy player for sure!!!!

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 21 January 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

XP Values added so better get grinding, call it 6-12 months advance :)

 

I'm on it. Thx for letting us know. I never would have known otherwise. Thx!!!!!

MASHMAN 90 #37 Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:41 PM

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View PostRarefication, on 30 January 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

Super psyched for any new tt Soviet heavies incoming, eventually. I bought back my IS and have grinded 47,941 xp thus far. I  have the T-10 but need 162,000 to unlock the IS-7 and will need to grind another 200,000+ xp on top of that to be ready for the new Soviet tier ten. Lots of work to be done. But I will be prepared. I hope WG figures out a way to make the Object 257 a balanced, yet dangerous, heavy. Great days to be a Soviet heavy player for sure!!!!

 

Yep without 9.22 i wouldn't like the IS-3 in all honesty and plan was the T-10 to get the Object 257 if we follow the same path.

I'm working on T-10 (500 XP for the IS-3 gun) and A-44 right now and IS if both are in battle. SU-101 i'll need to rebuy but that's stock.

 

About balance the recent Circon video explains but lower side armour can now be overmatched by 121 mm caliber where before it was 65 mm so nothing would overmatch.



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View PostRarefication, on 30 January 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

 

I'm on it. Thx for letting us know. I never would have known otherwise. Thx!!!!!

 

no problem, after people complained about Lights, i had some free time and on QB's 9.22 video i had to replay and pause at the right moment to get the XP Values as never spoke about it. :)

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 30 January 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

Yep without 9.22 i wouldn't like the IS-3 in all honesty and plan was the T-10 to get the Object 257 if we follow the same path.

I'm working on T-10 (500 XP for the IS-3 gun) and A-44 right now and IS if both are in battle. SU-101 i'll need to rebuy but that's stock.

 

About balance the recent Circon video explains but lower side armour can now be overmatched by 121 mm caliber where before it was 65 mm so nothing would overmatch.

 

...and isn't there a new tier ten heavy coming off of the T-10 that is yet to be announced?

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 30 January 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

 

no problem, after people complained about Lights, i had some free time and on QB's 9.22 video i had to replay and pause at the right moment to get the XP Values as never spoke about it. :)

 

Great work. It's much appreciated!




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