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Ronin Gaidin #101 Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:07 PM

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View Postmikkoj, on 14 February 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

 

Holy.... :facepalm: You have 1 arty with any marks and that is after 1450 battles. By your own standards your opinion is seriously invalid.

Also only 0,3% of your games is played with heavy tanks. Therefore you don t have enough information witch is required to make statements considering arty as class when comparing other classes.  

 

I have played 25 different arty when you have played 12 different artillery. Top of that i have gained four 1 marked arty during grinds and you only have 1. Based on these points you can leave your thread to more experienced players :trollface:

 

 

This makes a lot of sense. It also applies in all directions. I find it difficult to take seriously the opinions of any player who has a tiny number of games played in a particular class, especially when they only managed to get up to tier IV or VI in one. They would have no idea how those tanks are played (especially in the higher tiers). And yet so many (not you mikkoj, but many other posters above) have such strong opinions about things they do not know nor understand. 



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View PostN333DL3, on 14 February 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

Ive got some news for you son, but RNG stands for “random number generator” and the ENTIRE game is predicated on it, along with ever other video game.

 

 

Speaking or repeating oneself, When you get a 3-marked Arty come back and tell me how wrong I am

 

shame you're this daft

 

you know how dispersion values work? you know how map rotation works? 

 

thanks for breaking down what rng stands for by the way I was having a hard time with that



Brick S0lid #103 Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:35 PM

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View PostN333DL3, on 15 February 2018 - 02:31 AM, said:

 

Ok, so your WOT profile shows you own 5 Arty vehicles and none are 1-marked, with less than 1% of your games in arty.  Thanks for the input. :child:

 

 

Ok, well what is funny is you speaking as an authority, yet don’t have a single two marked tank in any category and only a handful of games playing Arty.  

 

Follow the link in my sig where is says "stets". That's my account I play on ok.

Or follow this one instead to save you searching my GT https://console.worl...layers/3740802/


Edited by Brick S0lid, 14 February 2018 - 09:17 PM.

Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

3700Wn8. 80+ tanks with 3 MoE. 

 


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View PostBrick S0lid, on 14 February 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

 

thank you. Perhaps I'll buy myself some coronas after work as a reward.

 

I had you down as a Lion Brown man lol....:trollface:

N333DL3 #105 Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:12 PM

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View PostBrick S0lid, on 14 February 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

Follow the link in my sig where is says "stets". That's my account I play on ok.

Or follow this one instead I told save you searching my GT https://console.worl...layers/3740802/

 

MEH....If you post under Brick S0lid, your stats are under Brick S0lid.  Nice try but not interested 



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View PostN333DL3, on 14 February 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

MEH....If you post under Brick S0lid, your stats are under Brick S0lid.  Nice try but not interested 

 

 

Ok, i'm convinced.

100% troll.

 

Thnx because i actually wasn't sure about it before you barfed up that nonsense.

 


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View PostN333DL3, on 14 February 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

MEH....I know your stats prove what you said but it doesn’t support my opinions so I’m going to ignore it.  Nice try but not interested 

 

FTFY



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View PostN333DL3, on 15 February 2018 - 06:12 AM, said:

 

MEH....If you post under Brick S0lid, your stats are under Brick S0lid.  Nice try but not interested 

Lol someone with 3 marks on an arty shows up and tells you their opinion and you won't accept it. So you just expected some no lifer arty player with 3 MoE to come in here and validate your idiotic stance that arty is skilful. Sorry to disappoint you. 


Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

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View Postmikkoj, on 14 February 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

 

Holy.... :facepalm: You have 1 arty with any marks and that is after 1450 battles. By your own standards your opinion is seriously invalid.

Also only 0,3% of your games is played with heavy tanks. Therefore you don t have enough information witch is required to make statements considering arty as class when comparing other classes.  

 

I have played 25 different arty when you have played 12 different artillery. Top of that i have gained four 1 marked arty during grinds and you only have 1. Based on these points you can leave your thread to more experienced players :trollface:

 

I’m not calling into questions the skill required to play heavy tanks, I’m merely pointing out that to play Arty successfully requires skill.  You might notice from my stats that I have a few 3-marked lights, widely considered the most difficult to play, yet I can’t get 2-Mark’s on an arty after 1000+ games.  If anything this serves to validate my contention.

 

Based on the buttt hurt reactions though, which is hilarious, any mention of a pro arty stance is immediately descended upon with a fanatical anti-Arty devotion.  

 

Striped of all disguise though, I think we all know that it stems from sour grapes.  People are so angry, particularly heavy tankers, that they can’t even bring themselves to admit it requires skills to play class.  

 

Instead they cast aspersions and take comfort in self reinforcing group think.   I remain unconvinced



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View PostN333DL3, on 14 February 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

I’m not calling into questions the skill required to play heavy tanks, I’m merely pointing out that to play Arty successfully requires skill.  You might notice from my stats that I have a few 3-marked lights, widely considered the most difficult to play, yet I can’t get 2-Mark’s on an arty after 1000+ games.  If anything this serves to validate my contention.

 

Based on the buttt hurt reactions though, which is hilarious, any mention of a pro arty stance is immediately descended upon with a fanatical anti-Arty devotion.  

 

Striped of all disguise though, I think we all know that it stems from sour grapes.  People are so angry, particularly heavy tankers, that they can’t even bring themselves to admit it requires skills to play class.  

 

Instead they cast aspersions and take comfort in self reinforcing group think.   I remain unconvinced

 

Or maybe its medium and light tank players that are frustrated when they try and play there tank aggressively and get punished for it by a class that is based primarily on luck.

When, correct me if im wrong, arty is supposed to punish campers and slow heavy tanks instead of fast mediums or lights or people who play aggressively



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I don't care if I get one shotted by arty, or get "punished" for playing agressively. I play american arty, have 1 marked every I own, but I also play american mediums, T14, Russian hevys and some others. Most often arty misses me, when they hit, depending who was shooter, it's either really damaging, or extremely annoying tracking shot from fast firing arty. And if there 2 of them, I'm totally stuck with my Russian heavies.

 

Who really cares does it take skill or not, I think it does, but what difference it makes to game? Nothing. We play game, get wrecked or survive, return to garage and play again, ultimately that's what we all are doing.



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View Postmatsuuu, on 14 February 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

 

Who really cares does it take skill or not, I think it does, but what difference it makes to game? Nothing. We play game, get wrecked or survive, return to garage and play again, ultimately that's what we all are doing.

 



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View PostBrick S0lid, on 15 February 2018 - 04:05 AM, said:

Lol someone with 3 marks on an arty shows up and tells you their opinion and you won't accept it. So you just expected some no lifer arty player with 3 MoE to come in here and validate your idiotic stance that arty is skilful. Sorry to disappoint you. 

 

Is there any reason why you are spooling in someone else? You are banned in this forum on your SCRUBBYBITS account ?

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Arty players are akin to 12 year old camping snipers on CounterStrike. It's a low risk, low skill proposition. 

 

There is a special place in hell for arty players. May they burn for all eternity.

 

Artillery is not a tank. It has no place in a game called world of tanks.



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View PostSighthoundsRock, on 14 February 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

Artillery is not a tank. It has no place in a game called world of tanks.

You must crap your drawers when you run across a nameless or elderweiss then.



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View PostSighthoundsRock, on 15 February 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Arty players are akin to 12 year old camping snipers on CounterStrike. It's a low risk, low skill proposition. 

 

There is a special place in hell for arty players. May they burn for all eternity.

 

Artillery is not a tank. It has no place in a game called world of tanks.

 

If you insist that Arty is not a tank, then WG should delete all tanks which had only plan and didn't exist. Almost all Tier9.10 tanks would diminish.:)

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"You have to predict where the enemy is going" 

 

-artillery defenders

 

...so, just like with real tanks? We do the same stuff, except we actually, you know, have to move...from the back of the map...

 

"Don't stand still, and you won't get shot" 

 

Translation, "f**k you heavy tanks, get nerfed scrub:trollface:"

 

"Artillery prevents camping"

 

How? I see way more aggressive play when artillery is dead or not in the game, and I'm way more aggressive when I know artillery isn't shooting in my area or isn't in the game at all. Anyone who says artillery prevents camping has never played a real tank before.

 

"Don't sit in the open"

 

So wait, do I need to hide behind cover or keep moving? And I thought artillery was supposed to prevent camping...I guess only in certain situations...

 

Anyone who says artillery takes as much skill as real tank to use.

I played the M12 for about a month. I sold it, because it's boring as hell to play, all you need to do is press a button and take out 700+ damage from some poor sap in a T95 or one shot a tier seven who dared get detected for a fraction of a second from the back of the map. There's no satisfaction in that.


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thread ended with the very first reply.

 

you guys are stupid.



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View PostJustinOfTheUSA, on 15 February 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

"You have to predict where the enemy is going" 

 

-artillery defenders

 

...so, just like with real tanks? We do the same stuff, except we actually, you know, have to move...from the back of the map...

 

"Don't stand still, and you won't get shot" 

 

Translation, "f**k you heavy tanks, get nerfed scrub:trollface:"

 

"Artillery prevents camping"

 

How? I see way more aggressive play when artillery is dead or not in the game, and I'm way more aggressive when I know artillery isn't shooting in my area or isn't in the game at all. Anyone who says artillery prevents camping has never played a real tank before.

 

"Don't sit in the open"

 

So wait, do I need to hide behind cover or keep moving? And I thought artillery was supposed to prevent camping...I guess only in certain situations...

 

Anyone who says artillery takes as much skill as real tank to use.

I played the M12 for about a month. I sold it, because it's boring as hell to play, all you need to do is press a button and take out 700+ damage from some poor sap in a T95 or one shot a tier seven who dared get detected for a fraction of a second from the back of the map. There's no satisfaction in that.

 

Stop making sense. Don't you have ghost shells to distribute or something...

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View PostSquizzM3, on 14 February 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

 

Stop making sense. Don't you have ghost shells to distribute or something...

 

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