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Why does the BC155-55 have a worse reload than the Lorr?


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Metalrodent #1 Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:31 PM

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^ Thread title.

 

It seems odd that while the other arty tend to get a gun boost when they move from VIII to IX this thing actually drops DPM. I've heard it said 'because turret' but the traverse is so slow it offsets that somewhat, nor is the dispersion on it even good.

 

Now I understand it could be argued it still has good RoF and the aim stats are decent - but its a bit odd to lower the dpm on the weakest IX arty gun when you're twice as likely to see tier X.

 

This isn't even something we've inherited from PC, back before the arty rebalance on PC the Bat did have a better RoF than the Lorr - so it's one of consoles odd balance decisions.

 

Ok the German IX loses dpm compared to the VIII as well, but that also gains mobility and camo, while the Bat is significantly less stealthy and mobile than the Lorr.

 

Also yes I know any calls to buff artillery is generally a terrible thing to even consider, but in this case it's a curious question on fairness.


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Joco3000 #2 Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:07 PM

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View PostMetalrodent, on 13 February 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

This isn't even something we've inherited from PC, back before the arty rebalance on PC the Bat did have a better RoF than the Lorr - so it's one of consoles odd balance decisions.

The Bat Chat 155 55 didn't exist before the great artillery rebalance.

That's probably the reason why. 


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Tempest fox3 #3 Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:11 PM

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Because tye BC 155-55 has a fully traverseable turret. The tier 8 does not.

Like with casemate TD's vs turreted TD's. The turret tank always has a slower reload.

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Hobbit Rampage #4 Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:45 PM

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They actually made the reload slower a couple of updates ago.   Which was stupid.  It should have been made slightly faster.

scwirpeo #5 Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:51 PM

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Slow down there buddy. It almost sounds like you want an actual tier 9 Arty to be competitive with the m55. A french Arty no less, that's not how this works.

 

 



BrogueOne #6 Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:03 AM

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View PostTempest fox3, on 13 February 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

Because the BC 155-55 has a fully traverseable turret. The tier 8 does not.

^this^ 

 

Also, the Batchat is more accurate by 0.04 with better aim time.



Desyatnik Pansy #7 Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:17 AM

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View PostJoco3000, on 13 February 2018 - 10:07 PM, said:

The Bat Chat 155 55 didn't exist before the great artillery rebalance.

That's probably the reason why. 

 

Think he meant the more recent rebalance, y'know where they introduced stun, lowered alpha, increased accuracy and reload and whatnot. 

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Cheetah1728 #8 Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:45 AM

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Turret, velocity, accuracy, aim time... all better. Mobility is slightly worse even fully upgraded, but the ability to skirt along the edges of the map in a sort of giant circle while firing to your left/right and relocating amid the 20-22 second reload, it's not too bad. iirc the lorraine 155 51 had around 19 something, so you're only losing out on about 1 second while gaining other stuff. Lorraine also has to come to a dead stop, traverse, then aim. If you get used to the BC you can keep the gun aimed in the general area/direction when relocating 50-100 meters only stopping 8ish seconds before finishing the reload.

I find the flexiblity and change in style worth that 1 second.

- I also just remembered that earlier I was "reported arty" while having a so so game in it. Only 2.5k damage in total, but some platoon reported me for 2 unsporting 1 cheating. I guess they don't realize the tier 9 french arty has a 20.5 or so reload time and instead I should be holding off. Idk... I notice I get reported every session I work on the swedish TDs though. Can't tell if it's teammates mad I'm hanging back or people getting sniped doing it.

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