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SauerKrapp #1 Posted 01 March 2018 - 04:49 PM

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I took my T37 out yesterday. Got Murovanka. I'm working the center of the map as usual. 3/4 of the way through the battle I catch a KV-4 all by his lonesome. Now I haven't played this tank since I 3 marked it many  months ago. As I chase down the KV-4 I put a few rounds into the back side of his turret and I then proceed to circle him to death.....well that's what I thought I was going to do....36 shots fired.....30 shots landed....6 PENETRATIONS!!!! I threw everything I had at him, AP, APCR. I shot his sides, his rear, his turret, his chassis...hell I even fired a round or two at his front. All from point blank range.....nothing would pen. He managed to keep me from getting to the rear of his turret as he was desperately trying to shoot me. Finally a teammate of his came to his rescue and killed me.

 

WOW......the T37 is not what she use to be. I think I'm going to have to put her down and send her to the glue factory....that was ridiculously frustrating.

 

I have been playing a lot of tier 6 lights lately as lights are fairly new to me and haven't really had any problems with not being able to pen tier 8 tanks. Anyone else having troubles with the changes made to the light tanks that got smashed with the nerf bat?


 

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Beta582 #2 Posted 01 March 2018 - 04:51 PM

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Yeah, it is actually balanced as a tier 6 now. Of course you are going to struggle against a tier 8 super-heavy.

 

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Cyrex005 #3 Posted 01 March 2018 - 04:56 PM

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Funny how they moved the lights up a tier (for the most part)and then nerfed them. Even though they all see the same high tiers as they did before.

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View PostCyrex005, on 01 March 2018 - 10:56 AM, said:

Funny how they moved the lights up a tier (for the most part)and then nerfed them. Even though they all see the same high tiers as they did before.

 

Only lights that went up a tier are the M41 Walker Bulldog, RU 251, T49, AMX 15 90, LTTB, and T54 Lightweight and they all received buffs to compensate this change. The T37's tier was not changed. It's matchmaking did and was rebalanced accordingly.

 

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Haha just sold that tank yesterday. Miss what it used to be.


Cyrex005 #6 Posted 01 March 2018 - 05:06 PM

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Oh yeah tier 7s and up. Sorry. Still though about a 20% nerf to pen for a tank that sees tier VIII? No wonder he couldn't pen that KV-4. Its max pen is 160mm now.

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Tier VI light tank struggles to pen tier VIII russian block of armor.  Must be underpowered, let's give it a 6 shot autolader with 490 alpha, mobility to circle everything tightly and quickly, .3 second intraclip reload and a 6 second clip reload, 260mm AP pen with 600mm APCRpen...

 

 


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View PostBeta582, on 01 March 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

Yeah, it is actually balanced as a tier 6 now. Of course you are going to struggle against a tier 8 super-heavy.

 

Having recently been playing the 59-16, MT-25, Type 64 and VK28.01, I don't recall any of them having such a difficult time even with a tier 8 super heavy. Am I missing something with the T37?

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View PostGrowlmonDrgnbutt, on 01 March 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:

Tier VI light tank struggles to pen tier VIII russian block of armor.  Must be underpowered, let's give it a 6 shot autolader with 490 alpha, mobility to circle everything tightly and quickly, .3 second intraclip reload and a 6 second clip reload, 260mm AP pen with 600mm APCRpen...

 

 

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View PostBeta582, on 01 March 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

 

Only lights that went up a tier are the M41 Walker Bulldog, RU 251, T49, AMX 15 90, LTTB, and T54 Lightweight and they all received buffs to compensate this change.

 

Removing the M41's auto-loader was a buff?


 

 

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View PostUnkempt, on 01 March 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

Removing the M41's auto-loader was a buff?

Don't forget the buffed reload of 5 sec from 4.3 sec, the buffed speed to 68kph from 72.4kph. And it still sees tier X.



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View PostUnkempt, on 01 March 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

Removing the M41's auto-loader was a buff?

 

Lets be honest here, a tier 7 light that could reliably dump 1500 damage in a few seconds was absolutely broken and needed to be removed.

 

Besides, the vehicles damage per shot was improved from 150 to 170, the aim time and accuracy were greatly improved over the autoloader, and the overall gun handling was improved. Lets also not forget the ~400 DPM increase it now gets over the old autoloader. So yeah, buffed.


 

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Yeah, glad I got the 3 marks before.  It's ranked 2nd to last in average damage in last 30 days.  Could come from that mindset that lights are not supposed to dish out damage, or they really messed up the nerf.

There are still some severe frustrations, but I still love to play.

 

 

 


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View PostBeta582, on 01 March 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

Only lights that went up a tier are the M41 Walker Bulldog, RU 251, T49, AMX 15 90, LTTB, and T54 Lightweight and they all received buffs to compensate this change. The T37's tier was not changed. It's matchmaking did and was rebalanced accordingly.

 

That was no buff to the bulldog it was a nerfed they removed the auto loader 

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View PostBeta582, on 01 March 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

Lets be honest here, a tier 7 light that could reliably dump 1500 damage in a few seconds was absolutely broken and needed to be removed.

 

Besides, the vehicles damage per shot was improved from 150 to 170, the aim time and accuracy were greatly improved over the autoloader, and the overall gun handling was improved. Lets also not forget the ~400 DPM increase it now gets over the old autoloader. So yeah, buffed.

 

I sold mine it was trash after they nurfed it I tried it after and didn't like the changes made to i, it seems alot slower to me also

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View PostSpartanFire71, on 01 March 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

Yeah, glad I got the 3 marks before.  It's ranked 2nd to last in average damage in last 30 days.  Could come from that mindset that lights are not supposed to dish out damage, or they really messed up the nerf.

 

Thats the Stupid thing, low tiers are basicly nerfed to be a scout only...

 

The high tiers are now monsters to do amazing damage Numbers...

 

So they learn you to scout at low tiers and to attack at high tiers...

 

btw 50 shells on a tier 5 and 6 scout , the Locust has 50 shells, if you put in some tracking HE shells then what is left for a tier 6 scout to shoot at ? Ya need like 15 to kill a descent tank so whats the fun ?

 

Nah i had that T-37 3marked and pushed it away as a keeper, one day i would give it a new crew, now im just gonna sell it...

 

Same as my 100% dmg standing Chaffee, its just hard to say goodbye :(

 

I still feel the pain when i sold my ELC...,

 

mmmmmmmmommmmeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy they took my favorit toy away :(



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View PostABAOUIA, on 01 March 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

Same as my 100% dmg standing Chaffee, its just hard to say goodbye :(

 

 

 

Haven't taken out the Chaffee out in a long time. It may need to go as well.

 

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View PostABAOUIA, on 01 March 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

 

Thats the Stupid thing, low tiers are basicly nerfed to be a scout only...

 

The high tiers are now monsters to do amazing damage Numbers...

 

So they learn you to scout at low tiers and to attack at high tiers...

 

btw 50 shells on a tier 5 and 6 scout , the Locust has 50 shells, if you put in some tracking HE shells then what is left for a tier 6 scout to shoot at ? Ya need like 15 to kill a descent tank so whats the fun ?

 

Nah i had that T-37 3marked and pushed it away as a keeper, one day i would give it a new crew, now im just gonna sell it...

 

Same as my 100% dmg standing Chaffee, its just hard to say goodbye :(

 

I still feel the pain when i sold my ELC...,

 

mmmmmmmmommmmeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy they took my favorit toy away :(

 

Yes, I was thinking along the same line that lower tiers are the low damage dealers while higher tiers have great damage potential.  I also think it is more than they took toys away though.  Those lights (for those that liked driving them) were great crew trainers.  I wouldn't bother with many of them now.  Some like driving super heavies or whatever tank floats their boat, others like lights.

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Used to see you to tier 9. Does just fine currently. 100% camo and optics usually means I have a better view range than the red team, gun is weirdly accurate for a 0.4m dispersion.

 

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View PostBeta582, on 01 March 2018 - 01:10 PM, said:

 

Lets be honest here, a tier 7 light that could reliably dump 1500 damage in a few seconds was absolutely broken and needed to be removed.

 

Besides, the vehicles damage per shot was improved from 150 to 170, the aim time and accuracy were greatly improved over the autoloader, and the overall gun handling was improved. Lets also not forget the ~400 DPM increase it now gets over the old autoloader. So yeah, buffed.

 

I just had to get that out.

 

I remember when the top gun (single shot) had a ~3.4 sec reload, better aim time, depression, mobility and was quite competitive. Now we have this. The alpha increase is nice though. Regardless, I sold it and haven't looked back.


 

 

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