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Tempest fox3 #21 Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:58 PM

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View PostRubbelito, on 13 March 2018 - 07:49 AM, said:

 

Not all.

The bushes that exist on xb1, and not on 360, has no game function. They're only for aesthetics.

Problem  is, you don't know which are what except for the no function bushes apparently are smaller.

 

The fake ones tend not to go transparent within the 15m mark. Don't really know any other way of telling the difference between them.


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I was under the impression that bushes that disappear when you drive into them were fake, as opposed to the ones that you can still see the foliage when you are in them, these offer real cover.

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View PostTempest fox3, on 13 March 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

The fake ones tend not to go transparent within the 15m mark. Don't really know any other way of telling the difference between them.

 

So fake bushes don't go transparent, period?

Never heard that definition before. I only heard that they are small. So small that they wouldn't give you any good cover anyway.

 


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Wargaming needs to clarify this. If true that there is no cover offered by some bushes, they need to fix that [edited]in a hurry.

Edited by SauerKrapp, 13 March 2018 - 01:22 PM.

 

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View PostRubbelito, on 13 March 2018 - 01:49 AM, said:

 

Not all.

The bushes that exist on xb1, and not on 360, has no game function. They're only for aesthetics.

Problem  is, you don't know which are what except for the no function bushes apparently are smaller.

 

View PostXenith_Inc, on 13 March 2018 - 02:06 AM, said:

 

Well, there's the weird-[edited]exception to the general rule. 

 

View PostRubbelito, on 13 March 2018 - 02:08 AM, said:

 

Yep.

Thank you, 360.

 

 

View PostSauerKrapp, on 13 March 2018 - 06:47 AM, said:

 

So you can pull up and park behind a bush in your light on the xbone and you really are just sitting out in the open????  What kind of [edited]is that???? #360

 

View PostRubbelito, on 13 March 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

 

Yep. 

That’s some [edited] [edited] indeed. 

 

 

View PostSauerKrapp, on 13 March 2018 - 07:21 AM, said:

Wargaming needs to clarify this. If true that there is no cover offered by some bushes, they need to fix that [edited]in a hurry.

 

Every bush on Xbox One is the same bush on Xbox 360. 

 

Xbox One has various other things like grass and tiny shrubbery/flowers for visual aesthetics, but all bushes and trees are the same no matter the console. 



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View PostSauerKrapp, on 13 March 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Wargaming needs to clarify this. If true that there is no cover offered by some bushes, they need to fix that [edited]in a hurry.

 

Agreed, I suggest they put a small X360 symbol on each one of those fake bushes, so you can tell the difference.

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 13 March 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every bush on Xbox One is the same bush on Xbox 360. 

 

Xbox One has various other things like grass and tiny shrubbery for visual aesthetics, but all bushes and trees are the same no matter the console. 

 

So you're saying there are no bushes on xb1 that doesn't exist on 360? :confused:

I've seen footage from 360 and most maps looks like a desert compared to xb1...


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View PostMaxChaos24, on 13 March 2018 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

Every bush on Xbox One is the same bush on Xbox 360. 

 

Xbox One has various other things like grass and tiny shrubbery for visual aesthetics, but all bushes and trees are the same no matter the console. 

 

Thanks for clarifying this Max, but is it true that we have only like 50% of usable foliage cover on Console when compared to PC standards? And if so, can that be because of some older consoles which can't support that much detail?

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View PostRubbelito, on 13 March 2018 - 07:34 AM, said:

 

So you're saying there are no bushes on xb1 that doesn't exist on 360? :confused:

I've seen footage from 360 and most maps looks like a desert compared to xb1...

 

Yes. Every bush and tree are exactly the same. 

 

360 does look like a desert due to the lack of grass, but grass is just grass, it has no camo value. 



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 13 March 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

 

Yes. Every bush and tree are exactly the same. 

 

360 does look like a desert due to the lack of grass, but grass is just grass, it has no camo value. 

 

There's been discussion earlier where this ( xb1 bushes > 360 bushes) has been in some kind of consensus, but if you say so I have to trust that.

 

View PostSauerKrapp, on 13 March 2018 - 02:21 PM, said:

Wargaming needs to clarify this. If true that there is no cover offered by some bushes, they need to fix that [edited]in a hurry.

 

Sorry for repeating fake information. :(

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DustyHooves #31 Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:51 PM

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What if you push a few trees into the same location, does the camo value for each tree stack?

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Keep in mind that while a down tree provides concealment, it is also a clue to where you could be. 

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View PostDustyHooves, on 13 March 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

What if you bush a few trees into the same location, does the camo value for each tree stack?

 

Good question,  I've seen youtubers like QB who refer to double bushing so i take it its a thing.

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I played with a guy the other night who called me a moron for knocking a tree over so I could camp behind it.

After 2000+ damage, 4 kills and all the spotting in the world, he kinda shut up.

Turns out there are a lot of people that don't know this. Maybe another tip/trick page for cover needs to be added to the loading screens.

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View PostRubbelito, on 13 March 2018 - 07:49 AM, said:

 

Not all.

The bushes that exist on xb1, and not on 360, has no game function. They're only for aesthetics.

Problem  is, you don't know which are what except for the no function bushes apparently are smaller.

I never knew this but I believe you, i've shot through non transparent bushes far too many times only to still be detected anyway....and yeah that's some [edited]really, they can't even get that to work



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You believe him... But Max says it isn't true.

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View PostKoncorde, on 13 March 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

You believe him... But Max says it isn't true.

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Or...?

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View PostKoncorde, on 13 March 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

Or...?

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 13 March 2018 - 02:36 AM, said:

Yep, they do. 

 

so how does spotting work? Rng?
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