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Poll: M4 Sherman Gun - Which is Be(a)st? (61 members have cast votes)

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Which one nets the most damage in your experience?

  1. 76mm (30 votes [49.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.18%

  2. 105mm (31 votes [50.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.82%

If you have 3-marked your M4, which gun got you there?

  1. 76mm (5 votes [8.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.20%

  2. 105mm (7 votes [11.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.48%

  3. I haven’t 3-marked it yet (49 votes [80.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.33%

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Neurotic Cell #1 Posted 15 March 2018 - 12:46 AM

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I’m sure this has been asked in one form or another but my searches aren’t producing useful results, so please forgive me if this is a repeat of anything you’ve seen previously.

 

I have had two marks on my tier V M4 Sherman for ages, using the 76mm.  I ran the 105 for the longest time but that may have predated MOE in the game even.  At any rate, for those who have three-marked this baby, did you manage it with the 76 or 105?  It’s not just about the MOE; I’m also just interested in best (real) damage potential and, though I found the 76 to ultimately be more reliable, I’ve improved in the game since the switch.  Wondering if I should go back to the 105?

 

Thanks for any feedback!


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ATHFjman18 #2 Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:02 AM

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Well I haven’t 3-marked it yet, but I’ve got 2 marks on it. Half of the games I played in it I was a potato though, so my overall numbers kinda suck in it...

 

I honestly feel like the 76mm is much more consistent for me in every matchup whether it be high or low tier. All you gotta do is fire premium rounds at tier VII and you can do well. 

 

The 105mm is great for the lolz and is a monster when top tier, but find it hard to do a good amount of damage in tier VII matches.


 


Sammael85 #3 Posted 15 March 2018 - 03:08 AM

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I had that same problem testing both guns as i re-bought the Sherman, The Howitzer is all fun and laughs until you see yourself most of the times netting 100ish per shot for just the double of time reloading it.

The 76mm is the way to go.

 

 


Neurotic Cell #4 Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:18 PM

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It’s interesting that more vote for the 76, but 2/3 of the only 3-MOE players used the 105 to achieve it.  Going to keep my eye on this poll!

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Storm MD71 #5 Posted 23 March 2018 - 12:26 PM

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Over 3k battles in the M4 - I still don't know.

Have played 70% with the 105 and achieved good results - 3 MOE, 15 Radleys etc, but it's not one of my best performing tanks.

When Mid or top tier the 105 can be devastating (and fun), but bottom tier against some of the new heavies it struggles (can be great at tracking the reds but low pen and low damage) - the 76 (with premium) can be more effective in those situations.

 

The 76 may consistently achieve a better average  damage output, but the 105 (when it hits) can have spectacular results.

 

The M4 is a great all rounder and fun  to play - but, sorry,  with regards to your poll and questions I don't have a definitive answer... maybe you could test by running 10 battles with each resective gun, and compare results (and gut feeling) to see what is more suitable for your play style.

 

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Xenith_Inc #6 Posted 23 March 2018 - 01:16 PM

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Maybe the 105 has greater tracking potential, which counts for assist damage to push for the 3 mark, while the 76mm is more effective at dealing direct?

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Neurotic Cell #7 Posted 23 March 2018 - 01:20 PM

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View PostStorm MD71, on 23 March 2018 - 07:26 AM, said:

Over 3k battles in the M4 - I still don't know.

Have played 70% with the 105 and achieved good results - 3 MOE, 15 Radleys etc, but it's not one of my best performing tanks.

When Mid or top tier the 105 can be devastating (and fun), but bottom tier against some of the new heavies it struggles (can be great at tracking the reds but low pen and low damage) - the 76 (with premium) can be more effective in those situations.

 

The 76 may consistently achieve a better average  damage output, but the 105 (when it hits) can have spectacular results.

 

The M4 is a great all rounder and fun  to play - but, sorry,  with regards to your poll and questions I don't have a definitive answer... maybe you could test by running 10 battles with each resective gun, and compare results (and gut feeling) to see what is more suitable for your play style.

 

Happy tanking.

 

Thanks for the input!  Yes, the 76 is definitely more reliable overall.  I’ve had the M4 a long time (my most played tank) but I’ve never fully decided which I prefer.  I played it with the 105 initially, then spent a long time with the 76, and recently went back to the 105.  Since doing that, my damage standing is rising again.  So it seems like the 105 is good for the MOEs, but once that’s done I will probably go back to 76 for normal play.  As you said, I agree, bottom tier the 76 is just more reliable (with premium on some heavies).


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Albapfalzd3 #8 Posted 23 March 2018 - 01:48 PM

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Kinda off topic but has anyone else noticed a performance drop in the 76mm M1A1. Mostly in the Accuracy. I haven't run my Sherman in a while and then this week started playing it again and it just seems that I can't hit squat with this thing. Tankopedia shows the Dispersion at 100m as .43 which is pretty bad. Has it always been this bad? Just curious. 

 

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Neurotic Cell #9 Posted 26 March 2018 - 03:56 AM

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For posterity, since switching from the 76 to the 105 (about four days), my damage standing is hitting 90%.  The derp seems to have the most potential for high damage games than the 76, despite its subpar performance against VIIs.

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pingwrx #10 Posted 26 March 2018 - 05:25 AM

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View PostNeurotic Cell, on 14 March 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

I’m sure this has been asked in one form or another but my searches aren’t producing useful results, so please forgive me if this is a repeat of anything you’ve seen previously.

 

I have had two marks on my tier V M4 Sherman for ages, using the 76mm.  I ran the 105 for the longest time but that may have predated MOE in the game even.  At any rate, for those who have three-marked this baby, did you manage it with the 76 or 105?  It’s not just about the MOE; I’m also just interested in best (real) damage potential and, though I found the 76 to ultimately be more reliable, I’ve improved in the game since the switch.  Wondering if I should go back to the 105?

 

Thanks for any feedback!

 

I think I'm gonna try to 3 mark mine have 2 marks already gonna use the 76mm I think it will do more consistent damage especially against tier VII.


 


pingwrx #11 Posted 27 March 2018 - 09:54 PM

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View PostAlbapfalzd3, on 23 March 2018 - 05:48 AM, said:

Kinda off topic but has anyone else noticed a performance drop in the 76mm M1A1. Mostly in the Accuracy. I haven't run my Sherman in a while and then this week started playing it again and it just seems that I can't hit squat with this thing. Tankopedia shows the Dispersion at 100m as .43 which is pretty bad. Has it always been this bad? Just curious.

 

Roy

 

Yes always been .43.


 


Snorelacks #12 Posted 27 March 2018 - 10:07 PM

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I'm at 91% on mine using only the 105mm, but I haven't run it in such a long time. Particularly since I discovered the Panzer 4H derp which I believe to be better. I'd imagine that the 76mm would be able to deal more consistent damage.


 


Neurotic Cell #13 Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:09 PM

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View PostSnorelacks, on 27 March 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

I'm at 91% on mine using only the 105mm, but I haven't run it in such a long time. Particularly since I discovered the Panzer 4H derp which I believe to be better. I'd imagine that the 76mm would be able to deal more consistent damage.

 

It does seem to.  It’s tough to 3-Mark the thing, though, regardless of gun.  The 76 has high potential due to its consistency across tiers, but it’s hard to get enough shots in with a lot of this roflstomp stuff going on.

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RCAFRaven #14 Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:38 PM

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Apologies if this has been asked and answered 1000 times, and even more apologies for asking a great many years before I'll be able to make use of the information, but where do you go to see your percentages toward marking?

I've gotten the "Ace Tanker" in a couple of mine, but have no idea how to go about decorating the barrels.

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Orbtastic1 #15 Posted 09 April 2018 - 08:37 AM

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You basically need to keep playing it and getting consistently good games/mastery badges. If you look in the stats tab at your tank, in the bottom right it will say "damage standing".

 

1 barrel mark=65%

2=85%

3=95%

 

You should basically be 1 marking most tanks before finishing the grind for the next tank, maybe even 2. 3 is hard work on a lot of popular tanks but still achievable. The mark for German tanks is 3 barrel rings, most other tanks are a single band/stripe or star etc.


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RCAFRaven #16 Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:37 PM

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View PostOrbtastic1, on 09 April 2018 - 03:37 AM, said:

If you look in the stats tab at your tank, in the bottom right it will say "damage standing".

 

Thanks :)

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I've bee stuck at ~89% on the damage meter for a while - my crew has 8 skills - this is the tank that really got me to reassess my play style.  My stats for the first 300 battles sucked. 

 

I prefer the 76mm for the DPM - reload on the 105mm is just too slow at this tier, especially with auto loaders able to out circle your turret. My guess is three marking requires liberal use of the prammo and cola.

 

Good luck!


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Raekju #18 Posted 10 April 2018 - 11:43 PM

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105mm is the way to go. I got 2 pools medals in 20 min with it. Also, got me and kept me at 100% dmg standing.

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Albapfalzd3 #19 Posted 11 April 2018 - 02:19 PM

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View PostSHRiIVIP, on 10 April 2018 - 11:43 PM, said:

105mm is the way to go. I got 2 pools medals in 20 min with it. Also, got me and kept me at 100% dmg standing.

 

Do you have video?

 

Roy



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View PostAlbapfalzd3, on 11 April 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

 

Do you have video?

 

Roy

 

 

I don't since I really don't ever record games.


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