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TwistedArtek, on 16 April 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:
Hi ,i whana buy 1 of those tanks,but i dont know witch one,please help me with choice.
Is3A or Kirovets 1 1or Is5
Hi ,i whana buy 1 of those tanks,but i dont know witch one,please help me with choice.
Is3A or Krivets 1or Is5
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The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).
3 MoE tanks: T-34, Pz IVH, Tiger I, Pz.Kpfw. T 25
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Not sure if many reviews of Scourge but Quickybaby has a Review of IS-3 Auto and maybe IS-5 as well.
For Scourge, i'd recommend searching Console CC's such as Cpt Beardface, Bullvyi, Spartan Elite 43 for example, i don't watch Console CC's religiously though but would have a look.
All three virtually play the same however but heard lots of Bad things about Fatherland IS-3 A but it's not a bad tank (weaker IS-3).
***: Churchill III, **: UDES 03, Tiger Hammer, Pz Sfl IVc, Ram II, *: AMX 13 75, AMX 12T, VK 28.01, Obj 430 II, Obj. 416, T95E2, Motherland, Revalorise, AMX CDC, Centennial, Leo, Comet, Champion M10, Strv 74, Type T-34 (My First MOE), T-34, T-10, AMX 50 100, VK 45.02 A, Gorynynch KV-5, Tiger P, AMX M4 45, Tog II, KV-2, VK 30.01 H, T1 Heavy, OI Exp, KV-1S, KV-1, Waffle Pz IV, Jpanther II, ISU-130, AT-15, T67, M12, Gw Panther
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I own both the Fatherland (IS-3A) and Glory (IS-5). I do not own a Scourge, mainly because I own plenty of other Tier 8 Russian premiums.
Given a choice among the three I would probably go with the IS-5; while it and the IS-3A share many similarities it just "feels" better to me. Both play similarly to an IS-3 so if you understand how the pike-nose works you'll be fine.
The Scourge/Kirovets-1 is a different beast - the plain sloped frontal armor allows to you angle the tank as you would most any other without destroying the armor protection like you do when you try that in the pike-nosed IS's. Based on the tanks you've already played, the Kirovets might actually be the best choice for you since it won't require completely re-learning how to play a heavy tank.
Good luck!
Edited by Hypocrite, 16 April 2018 - 02:01 PM.
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TwistedArtek, on 16 April 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:
Hi ,i whana buy 1 of those tanks,but i dont know witch one,please help me with choice.
Is3A or Krivets 1or Is5
Go for the Kv4K Verzila. Better gun handling than all the other three mentioned and has pretty good armour too. Plus i think its cheaper than the others also.
I got rid of my Glory IS 5 as i just got fed up with the unreliable gun handling, which i know is what you get with the Russian 122mm, but i had enough fully aimed shots (which take a life time to aim in!) derp into the ground or try to bring a plane down!
So far i'm finding the Verzila gun to be far more reliable but this is just me.
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MASHMAN 90, on 16 April 2018 - 03:46 PM, said:
Not sure if many reviews of Scourge but Quickybaby has a Review of IS-3 Auto and maybe IS-5 as well.
For Scourge, i'd recommend searching Console CC's such as Cpt Beardface, Bullvyi, Spartan Elite 43 for example, i don't watch Console CC's religiously though but would have a look.
All three virtually play the same however but heard lots of Bad things about Fatherland IS-3 A but it's not a bad tank (weaker IS-3).
Kirovets is good little tank and far more better than IS-5 or IS-3 auto and gun is far more better than Defenders gun.
and its armor holds up pretty nicely too
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***: Churchill III, **: UDES 03, Tiger Hammer, Pz Sfl IVc, Ram II, *: AMX 13 75, AMX 12T, VK 28.01, Obj 430 II, Obj. 416, T95E2, Motherland, Revalorise, AMX CDC, Centennial, Leo, Comet, Champion M10, Strv 74, Type T-34 (My First MOE), T-34, T-10, AMX 50 100, VK 45.02 A, Gorynynch KV-5, Tiger P, AMX M4 45, Tog II, KV-2, VK 30.01 H, T1 Heavy, OI Exp, KV-1S, KV-1, Waffle Pz IV, Jpanther II, ISU-130, AT-15, T67, M12, Gw Panther
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Scoobydooboj, on 16 April 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:
Go for the Kv4K Verzila. Better gun handling than all the other three mentioned and has pretty good armour too. Plus i think its cheaper than the others also.
I got rid of my Glory IS 5 as i just got fed up with the unreliable gun handling, which i know is what you get with the Russian 122mm, but i had enough fully aimed shots (which take a life time to aim in!) derp into the ground or try to bring a plane down!
So far i'm finding the Verzila gun to be far more reliable but this is just me.
That's true, that IS-5 Glory is the king of the unreliable USSR guns. I cursed this tank, it must be programmed like that to be so bad. That shell goes anywhere except to where you aim. And I got a V-Stab, EGLD, BIA, Smooth Ride and Snapshot. So frustrating...
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