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GhostTownSux #1 Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:37 PM

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This trash is all paper against tier 9 and 10. No tier 9 or 10 bounces tge type 4. That flat plate on tge front is penned by everything. This thing cant side scrape. This type 4 is paper man. Do not buy this junk. Get the mauchen instead. Trust any time I see a tier 8 td, i always get penned. You cabt even angle cuz of the 2 flat spots.


GhostTownSux #2 Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:38 PM

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No wonder why i never see type 5 in tier 10 matches.


Restless_Vermin #3 Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:06 PM

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Never got that far, too slow and too big a target for me

GhostTownSux #4 Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:07 PM

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This tank is soo shittt. I just bounced the turret of a waffle. I recoreded it. Wg why is ur gane soo unbalanced. Why didnt u just call it world of russian tanks. This game is only fun if u play russian broken tanks. Seriously type 5 heavy suks balls. I couldnt pen the t28 prototype from the front even if I shot its side turret or lower plate. I needed to shoot gold to pen. Type 4 is a junk.


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View Posttonygillott, on 13 May 2018 - 09:06 AM, said:

Never got that far, too slow and too big a target for me

 

ur lucky u havent seen this junk.it goes like 12km for a tank that has paper frontal weak spots. Its horrible


zZGROGZz #6 Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:15 PM

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You’re bouncing? Off waffles? Why ain’t you taking advantage of the derp and spamming H.E down range? You won’t bounce then....

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View PostzZGROGZz, on 13 May 2018 - 10:15 AM, said:

You’re bouncing? Off waffles? Why ain’t you taking advantage of the derp and spamming H.E down range? You won’t bounce then....

 

have the 230 pen gun right now. Gotta spam gold at most tier 9s. Lol its pen also helps make it worse


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View PostBHELABOY, on 13 May 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

 

have the 230 pen gun right now. Gotta spam gold at most tier 9s. Lol its pen also helps make it worse

 

So throw a little free xp at it and get the derp.

It won’t change till you either a) Use a little free xp.

                                               b) grind past it.

                                               c) give up and try something else for a while.

The tank is as is. If you angle it properly, there is no reason why you should be penned.

Hull down and side scraping? There is an abundance of maps in rotation at the moment that will allow you to do that.


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MASHMAN 90 #9 Posted 13 May 2018 - 05:10 PM

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Just don't do this and will be ok :)

 



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I I don’t have it but i do know what not to do. Think you are superior and try get to a position showing you sides to a enemy (especially in tier 10) the reason is that you can get your ammunition blown up because in my e-100 I once took a single shot as a type 4 was trying to get to a position and I just took a random shot and blew up it's ammo rack . Recently with my is-7 a type-4 was trying to move up on the hill on mines and I was able to hit both my shots with the first being random damaging it ammo rack and aiming where the first shot went I hit their again blowing up its ammo rack . In general don’t think that your indestructible with that being most realistic when top tier but you can still be beaten by tds easily. 



Cheetah1728 #11 Posted 14 May 2018 - 06:55 AM

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Type 5 isn't much better. It's better ofcourse in almost every way outside of matchmaking, but it also comes with 2 catches.

I haven't played the type 4 in quite some time, but I would probably recommend the 14cm due to gun handling/reliability. You can use the 15cm if you wish, but the gun handling on it is even worse than the type 5's and that thing is very sloppy/difficult.

The type 4/5 are weird in that you can't sidescrape frontally. The type 4 can reverse sidescrape due to the design of the hull, however it loses depression over the rear engine deck while the type 5 doesn't suffer that issue. Do not try to attempt this in a type 5 because it has a different rear end, and doing so after the buffs would be silly anyways. Instead of sidescraping you must dart your front out at an angle. It's counter to what you initially want to do if you've played german heavies or know how to sidescrape, but trust me it works better. The goal is to put your front plates out at an angle while concealing/minimizing exposure to your drive wheel and corner weak spots. You hopefully bounce something while you put your shot in. Reverse back into cover to reload and repeat.

With both tanks solid cover is your friend and lover more so than when using a maus or e100. You have armor, but you have to treat it like you don't due to size/shape while using a combination of peek a boom to hold a position or wear something down.

The handling on the type 4's 15 is awful, however it still gets good HE and HEAT, so if you want to use it then go ahead. However the 14 might be more reliable/tolerable for nailing tier 7-9 targets if you don't mind lacking HEAT's pen. The type 5 has better performance for both, but the 14's pen still lacks and is thus terrible for fighting E100's when they can just melt through you with HEAT 10 outta 10.

As for the type 5's cons, it's an upgrade over the type 4 in every way except 2 as mentioned. The reverse side scraping is lost and the other being, if you hate premium spam you're gonna hate the type 5. With the type 4 it's not required, it simply helps. With the Type 5's frontal buffs it's almost mandatory, so you'll taste the rainbow within seconds of being engaged unless the target is cheap/terrible. You still have to employ the corner peekaboom tactic, but now you're more likely to bounce and endure more.

Avoid open areas when possible and don't stray far from support/cover, you're literally food if not careful.

PeaceSells86 #12 Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:05 PM

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I gave up and quit this line. Honestly I think the Oi is the jewel of the whole line. Plenty of armor and a deadly derp gun. I still play this almost every day for lol’s.

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View PostPeaceSells86, on 16 May 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

I gave up and quit this line. Honestly I think the Oi is the jewel of the whole line. Plenty of armor and a deadly derp gun. I still play this almost every day for lol’s.

 

Yep, pretty much. The O-Ni is also not too bad due to its frontal armor and improved mobility over the O-I, so it serves some purpose at times. O-Ho is interesting, but the armor doesn't mean a thing when you face tier 9/10 guns. It's also the most clunky awkward of the lot due to the mini-turrets and depression.

Past the O-I it's only for the dedicated or collectors, not for those that actually want a great tank. Too unreliable/flawed.

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View PostPeaceSells86, on 16 May 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

I gave up and quit this line. Honestly I think the Oi is the jewel of the whole line. Plenty of armor and a deadly derp gun. I still play this almost every day for lol’s.

 

OI Exp, OI and O-Ni are all good, in a Tier 7 game i blocked 9600 damage in the O-Ni on Prokorovka, i was under the bridge (only way to avoid Arty) so it took a Scout to go long way round the middle and come up behind, most were blindfiring then i would durp the blindspots.

DeepWombat #15 Posted 24 May 2018 - 06:49 AM

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The O-Ho is actually pretty good I think. I have ~2000 WN8 in it vs a ~1300 overall WN8. I am an average player, but I find the O-Ho with derp as easy mode still. You can damage T9s and T10s, and murder T8 and below.

 

Was planning to keep going up the line, but it seems to get worse with the Type 4.



ZipsMaguire #16 Posted 27 May 2018 - 12:55 PM

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I quite liked the Type4 at times (used the 14cm) and really liked the Oho with the derp.  The Type5 is not going well for me though.  Way too slow and map-dependent.  Gun feels inaccurate in my hands.

f1mitku #17 Posted 27 May 2018 - 11:32 PM

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Type 4 Heavy is not that bad in my view (in regards of the gun and armor - anyway it should have some flaws for balance) but it’s way too slow. It needs engine buff and general mobility buff. Still don’t own Type 5 Heavy but it seems like more of the same and probably also needs similar mobility buff. 
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MegaHesh #18 Posted 29 May 2018 - 05:28 PM

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developers suxx, type 5 & 4 are stars on the PC, but here they are ruined, these idiots gave them premium heat instead of premium HE of 1400 damage

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The survivability rating for the Type 5 is the biggest joke in the game... 97? More like 2. As in, it took 2 shots to kill me. One from a Deathstar and an E4. Took 3 minutes to see the enemies, to have 10 seconds of shooting once and death.

 

I think the tank is an enjoyable one, but it needs an amour buff of at least like 30-50mm on the frontal plates, because getting penetrated in my gun mantlet by a Pz.Kpfw.VII is [edited].



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tanks on console sucks compared to pc. Console to me has become a swamp for people aka kids dont know how to play. It has gotten so bad that I might leave and WG can suck it. They wonder why they have to shut down 1 american server, 1 asian server and put the [edited]players on my team 90% of the time. When I paid I was at near 70% win rate now I dont pay and im now lose my 53% win rate. There should be a law against this [edited]




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