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HailofSteel #1 Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:53 PM

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I noticed lately that HE rounds are not as effective as they once were.  JagPanzer only doing 200 damage? And the Maus hitting for 23 three times in a row? I though HE rounds were more prone to RNG than other ammo types but now they only seem to roll extremely low.

MASHMAN 90 #2 Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:55 PM

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Are you hitting more armoured parts of the tank?

 

More Armour = Less HE Damage.


 

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HailofSteel #3 Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:00 PM

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 17 May 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

Are you hitting more armoured parts of the tank?

 

More Armour = Less HE Damage.

That could be part of the problem. lol Never considered that. I got so used to relying on them that I somehow took it for granted I didnt need to aim at weak spots. Embarrassing :(    +1



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Why are you firing HE at a Maus when you can penetrate him with APCR??

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View PostHailofSteel, on 17 May 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

That could be part of the problem. lol Never considered that. I got so used to relying on them that I somehow took it for granted I didnt need to aim at weak spots. Embarrassing :(    +1

 

Also if they have a Spall Liner, which a Maus should have, it reduces the HE even more :)

 

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Bibo1GerUk #6 Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:08 PM

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Why use HE in a Jagdpanzer? :confused:

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View PostHailofSteel, on 17 May 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

I noticed lately that HE rounds are not as effective as they once were.  JagPanzer only doing 200 damage? And the Maus hitting for 23 three times in a row? I though HE rounds were more prone to RNG than other ammo types but now they only seem to roll extremely low.

 

I noticed the same on HE rounds on the DeathStar… At two or three months ago the HE on the DeathStar could do 1k damage or more on a Maus or on a E100... and now… :mellow:

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Capn Ratchet45 #8 Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:10 PM

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I can't believe I'm reading this...please tell me you are not firing primarily he out of those tanks...

HailofSteel #9 Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:36 PM

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View PostCapn Ratchet45, on 17 May 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

I can't believe I'm reading this...please tell me you are not firing primarily he out of those tanks...

Not particularly but I do frequently use them in clutch situations on tanks that are almost dead as a way to combat Randomly Generated Nonsense.



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HE rounds have not been nerfed.

 

Keep in mind that on a non-penetration the average damage of the rounds is immediately halved before armor thickness is taken into account.


 

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View PostBeta582, on 17 May 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

HE rounds have not been nerfed.

 

Keep in mind that on a non-penetration the average damage of the rounds is immediately halved before armor thickness is taken into account.

 

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Willen #12 Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:29 AM

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Not nerfed. At least not for the KV-2.

 

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I usually laugh maniacally when someone starts shooting >150mm HE at my heavily armored tank.

 

Unless it was to finish me off once on a sliver of health, obviously.


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View PostBibo1GerUk, on 17 May 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

Why use HE in a Jagdpanzer? :confused:

 

Assuming it's the jageru, then they can be absolutely lethal and effective. Target keeps wiggling or is hull down/sidescraping very well and your ap rounds aren't quite nailing em? 1400 HE into the right spot will easily do 300-600 so long as you don't hit the wrong spot.

I can't vouch for the jagdpanzer IV, but I'm sure it's he rounds are ok too in their own right... but not as effective.

Maus he spam... is for similiar effect, but it's only aound 630 alpha and I only carry 14 of them because 30 ap and 24 apcr is already overkill for penetration rounds and I find HE useful for tickling certain targets or smashing waffles. I don't spam HE on either, but it's hard to deny their usefulness.

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View Postjprs201024, on 17 May 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

 

I noticed the same on HE rounds on the DeathStar… At two or three months ago the HE on the DeathStar could do 1k damage or more on a Maus or on a E100... and now… :mellow:

 

Why wouldn't you use HESH rounds??    penetration is 3 times better???




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