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Brick S0lid #1 Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:50 AM

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So as with many others located in the New Zealand, Australia and the Pacific NA-west was the only server that was usable. Now depending on the ping to this new server I and many others will not be able to play this game anymore. That's it, unless we are expected to attempt to play with 300-400 ping or maybe more there is no future for us in this game. WGCB has potentially cut us all loose. I do say potentially because I'm hoping things may be alright though.

 

Anyway this brings me to the question of whether customers have any rights to demand refunds given this possible denial of service. My friend for example brought the STG and the atomic centurion a few days ago and if he had known that this server merging was going to happen he wouldn't have. We weren't given proper information by WGCB on this issue in advance and it would have swayed decisions. I wouldn't have bought another year of premium time myself had I known and several premium tanks. In NZ these are grounds to demand a refund at a store but does my countries consumer rights act cover this if the new server turns out to be unplayable?

 

So after 3-4 years, over 32k games and thousands of dollars put into this game this may well be the end of it for me. I'm currently sitting at 98 tanks with 3 MoE and was aiming to hit the milestone of 100 in the next week or two but I may never do that now. Even under the best circumstances my connection to the game will suffer and it was already sub par at the best of times on the old west server, I seriously doubt I'll be able to play at a competitive level if it gets any worse.

 

Thanks WGCB, you went having a community that loved what you were doing and was happy and healthy to one that now jokes about your ineptitude. Hope your proud.

 

Also if anyone was wondering where I've been the last 2 weeks (although I doubt most of you even noticed or care) I had 14 days read only for "naming and shaming/non constructive posts" after I posted some good games I had. Yeah:)

 

And at the very least I'd like my premium time reimbursed from the day west was taken down until the day the new server is up and running. I can't use it and its being wasted due to WGCBs decision.


Edited by Brick S0lid, 18 May 2018 - 07:57 AM.

Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

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MASHMAN 90 #2 Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:58 AM

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If they have played a battle in the tank, it can't be refunded but if it's stock then put in a ticket. Premium can't be refunded.

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Funny in how PC does the same thing and lot less complaing about it. Watch a few Aussie streamers and tbeir ping is just fine. While yes it's PC but from what i've seen from both ends. It didn't change as much as people think. This same kind of threads happened there too.

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Time to read the EULA.  Chances are there's a blanket statement in there that covers this sort of thing.  You agreed to it simply by playing.
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moeggsy #5 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:00 AM

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[edited]that sucks man. Sure hope your Internets good enough too continue playing, and all others affected :(

John Arrowsmith #6 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:02 AM

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It's funny because I was always under the impression that the game needed more servers,  not less.  I guess people will just have to wait and see how things pan out.

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Brick S0lid #7 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:03 AM

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 18 May 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

Funny in how PC does the same thing and lot less complaing about it. Watch a few Aussie streamers and tbeir ping is just fine. While yes it's PC but from what i've seen from both ends. It didn't change as much as people think. This same kind of threads happened there too.

Haven't heard about this on PC. Pretty sure there's the Asia server and two separate American servers and then the Chinese server if you wanted to count that.

View PostCrash Test Wolf, on 18 May 2018 - 08:00 PM, said:

Time to read the EULA. Chances are there's a blanket statement in there that covers this sort of thing. You agreed to it simply by playing.

 

your likely right

Artillery punishes flankers, not campers.

 

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Brick S0lid #8 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:03 AM

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View Postmoeggsy, on 18 May 2018 - 08:00 PM, said:

[edited]that sucks man. Sure hope your Internets good enough too continue playing, and all others affected :(

 

already sitting at about 200-300 ping so we will see.

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moeggsy #9 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:05 AM

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I guess i figured they combined due to low server populations? Seems like numbers are thinner of late?

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View PostBrick S0lid, on 18 May 2018 - 08:03 AM, said:

 

already sitting at about 200-300 ping so we will see.

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View PostBrick S0lid, on 18 May 2018 - 03:03 AM, said:

your likely right

 

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Weird that they're happy to sacrifice the enjoyment of a whole continent for the "health" of the game, yet we still support 360?

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Maybe it's your internet connection? In Belgium there is very fast fibernet anywhere, but I've been in sole countries where the connection really is barely enough to play. I could play on the Europe server, but I always play on the East server, and I had never issues with the connection on either of them.

 

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I hope things will work out for you.


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USSWISCONSIN94 #14 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:54 AM

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View PostBrick S0lid, on 18 May 2018 - 03:03 AM, said:

Haven't heard about this on PC. Pretty sure there's the Asia server and two separate American servers and then the Chinese server if you wanted to count that.

 

your likely right

Yes to Asia Server and even have a Aussie Server (i think) West/East is no more. It's now Central server. And Chinese as well. PS4 has an Asian Server too.


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View PostCrash Test Wolf, on 18 May 2018 - 04:13 AM, said:

 

If there's anything worse than greedy asf shady corporations, it's the slimy asf attorneys that protect them.

 

They have that Fine print : Download Speed and Latencey may affect your playing experience......

 

Sort of like these activities can be harmful to your health......Do you wish to continue

 

This sucks....



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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 18 May 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

Funny in how PC does the same thing and lot less complaing about it. Watch a few Aussie streamers and tbeir ping is just fine. While yes it's PC but from what i've seen from both ends. It didn't change as much as people think. This same kind of threads happened there too.

Hopefully new servers will work. My ping has been  ok at the moment



USSWISCONSIN94 #17 Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:14 AM

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View PostImproved Aus, on 18 May 2018 - 04:04 AM, said:

Hopefully new servers will work. My ping has been  ok at the moment

Chances are it'll be the same. But who knows. We won't know till they change it. But for me. It's good as Chicago is 400 miles (640km) or so from me


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Another old hand potentially going? Damn, that really sucks mate. I hope things don’t turn out as bad as you fear.

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 18 May 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

Chances are it'll be the same. But who knows. We won't know till they change it. But for me. It's good as Chicago is 400 miles (640km) or so from me

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That sux Brick, I hope it will work fine for you to stick around. I'm looking forward for your 3-marked number 100 tank, I hope you will get it, make it tier X arty and let the salt compensate your ping rate. NZ is a beautiful country but sux at tanking, what can you do. I get 5 bars for EU server and 4 for NAE on PS4, so it's playable.

 


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