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Pit Friend #41 Posted 07 June 2018 - 02:32 PM

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I understand that Wargames has to come out with new content to keep the money coming in but seriously how did asking for a Mercenary line go from having oddball tanks that wouldn’t fit into the regular nation’s tech trees to these totally made up mix and match “tanks”?

 

I get the concept that these are supposed to be scavenged tanks repaired using battlefield salvage but seriously? A mercenary looking to turn a profit is going to take the time, effort, and resources to completely re-engineer a vehicle just to fit a different, totally incompatible turret onto an existing hull? And then go and fit a completely different gun and recoil system into said turret? I don’t think so. Parts from similar tanks at most and usually just mismatched parts from different tanks. Most of these just look too damn silly to take seriously. And if these are the “showpieces” designed to generate excitement for the rest of the line I’m actually afraid to see what the rest of the line looks like. 


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View PostRaiBOT01, on 07 June 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

 

Thank you for your honest feedback. 

 

We are having to constantly come up with new content (both free and purchasable) as this is a free to play game.  In no way are players asked to make any purchases. 

 

Regarding the amount of premium tanks, its pretty simple: premium tanks sell well and frankly in short, we need to keep the game, and the office lights running.  We truly appreciate the support and contribution of players who decide to make a purchase.  

 

Players do not need to buy content in game to play.  The game is free to play and if you cannot make a purchase in any way, that's ok.  Even if players do not support the game monetarily, they are contributing to the game in a very big way by playing and keeping the servers populated.  

 

It is not easy for a free to play game to stay in the market for 2 years, let alone 4.  We have the community to thank for all of their support in every aspect of the word.  

 

As for the Mercenary tanks, this is something players have been asking for a while and believe it or not, we collaborated with a lot of them.  We don’t want to call anyone out by name unless they want to be known but we worked with a couple of players very closely on the initial designs of what made up each Merc tanks and then a larger group of ST for feedback on looks and balance.  It was a truly collaborative effort and we thank each one of them for their contribution. 

 

:)  This game is for the community and we hope you all get to play Mercenaries and judge it by experience!

 

Don't forget we have a Mercenary weekly assault stream today on FB at 3:00PM Central time.

 

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Thank you for being direct with us but I don't remember any posts asking for mix and match style tanks for a Mercenary tech tree. Every post I have seen for a Mercenary tech tree has been vehicle that A: existed, and B: didn't really fit into the existing tech trees very well. For example, there is still the old Mercenary tech tree idea posted by PAINGOD himself up on the forums. Link: http://forum-console...-random-musing/

 

This is the kind of thing we are talking about when we say "Mercenary tech tree".


 

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Pretty much hit the nail on the head.    I don’t think I could have said it any better myself but I’m still gonna share my thoughts.

I have absolutely zero interest in these “Frankenstein tanks”.    They look absolutely ridiculous, silly and just downright goofy.   It’s gonna drive me nuts seeing these laughable “Frankenstein tanks”.

I cringe when I see the likes of the King Dragon, The Warlord Panther and other ridiculous paint schemes but at least they are real tanks.  

Now with these “Frankenstein Tanks”, ugh I can’t even express my thoughts on these, I’m going to do more than just cringe.   More like vomiting every time I see them.

The game went from a semi historical tank game to a circus of tanks and I really have no interest in circus of tanks.

When I look at the King Dragoon, Warlord and many other ridiculous paint schemes, I really ask myself why?.   Can WGCB not skin some awesome camo for these tanks?.   I mean what we got is not very creative and not very imaginative at all.    And the same goes for these “Frankstein Tanks”, not creative or imaginative, just downright goofy looking.

This is a huge pass from me.   The game is obviously going into a direction of clown circus for all the young kids.   I’m no longer part of their target audience which is fine but I’m no longer spending money on this game and quite possibly just move on with other games especially with now a delayed balance patch to fall or even winter.

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View PostBeta582, on 07 June 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

Thank you for being direct with us but I don't remember any posts asking for mix and match style tanks for a Mercenary tech tree. Every post I have seen for a Mercenary tech tree has been vehicle that A: existed, and B: didn't really fit into the existing tech trees very well. For example, there is still the old Mercenary tech tree idea posted by PAINGOD himself up on the forums. Link: http://forum-console...-random-musing/

 

This is the kind of thing we are talking about when we say "Mercenary tech tree".

 

New tanks will be added in the future to the new Merc line as well as the current tech trees.  Don't forget we also have new tech trees to be release.  Unsure why tankers feel or think tanks the community want will not be coming to the game :) 

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View PostR35T NO MORE, on 07 June 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Odd. Everytime i have seen merc tanks mentioned, every single time, it has been for tanks from nations that didn't have enough tanks to have tech trees, not these mix and match things..

 

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Who asked for new reskins with swaped turrets? This is ridiculous!


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View PostRaiBOT01, on 07 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

 

New tanks will be added in the future to the new Merc line as well as the current tech trees.  Don't forget we also have new tech trees to be release.  Unsure why tankers feel or think tanks the community want will not be coming to the game :) 

 

Probably tired of waiting for ages (with absolutely no news or decent preview), plus the only new tanks they see are reskins.

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What would be the issue with creating a country called "Don't fit in" and putting all the tanks that don't fit to a country's tech tree ,  in this new tech tree. 

Call it "hodge podge" or what ever you want. It would be the tech tree for tanks that would be interesting to play but cannot justify their own country.

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RAIBOT01,

 

Yes, I believe players were asking for a Mercenary tech tree line...but with nations/tanks from countries that didn't fit in the other nations' tech trees...not the abominations WG came up with as playable tanks.

 

There is a difference in hearing and listening when it comes to understanding what your customers were asking for.

 

WG heard what players were asking for...but failed to listen to what they really wanted.



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View PostRaiBOT01, on 07 June 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

Unsure why tankers feel or think tanks the community want will not be coming to the game :) 

 

Probably because WG make little to no attempt at communicating with players who are suggesting new tank lines. You said in a previous post that the mercenary line was made in collaboration with other players. I sure don’t remember any requests for reskins and mash ups of tanks already in the game to make up the mercenary tech tree. I do remember however people requesting new tanks from multiple nations with not enough tanks to fill a tech tree to make up a mercenary/UN style of tech tree.


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View PostSeagullOfEvil, on 07 June 2018 - 04:20 PM, said:

 

Probably because WG make little to no attempt at communicating with players who are suggesting new tank lines. You said in a previous post that the mercenary line was made in collaboration with other players. I sure don’t remember any requests for reskins and mash ups of tanks already in the game to make up the mercenary tank lines. I do remember however people requesting new tanks from nations with not enough tanks to fill a tech tree to make it up.

 

There have been tons of threads with good suggestiions for years. 

 

So if WG denies/twists the content / suggestions those players have made, it's just cringe worthy beyond belief when you they say they've "listened to them". 



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View PostKnot3D, on 07 June 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

 

There have been tons of threads with good suggestiions for years. 

 

So if WG denies/twists the content / suggestions those players have made, it's just cringe worthy beyond belief when you they say they've "listened to them". 

 

I’m not sure if your targeting me or WG, because my point is WG are not listening to people with good suggestions.


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View PostRaiBOT01, on 07 June 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

New tanks will be added in the future to the new Merc line as well as the current tech trees.  Don't forget we also have new tech trees to be release.  Unsure why tankers feel or think tanks the community want will not be coming to the game :) 

 

Many people did not want this, they suggested content as given in the post by Tempestfox (see page 2 of this thread as an example).

 

What we get is somewhat different and appears to be a composite or already existing assets.

 

 



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View PostKebabsaurus Rex, on 07 June 2018 - 09:33 AM, said:

 

Many people did not want this, they suggested content as given in the post by Tempestfox (see page 2 of this thread as an example).

 

What we get is somewhat different and appears to be a composite or already existing assets.

 

 

 

I have already addressed this.  For now, all I can do is pass the feedback.  

 

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View PostSeagullOfEvil, on 07 June 2018 - 04:32 PM, said:

 

I’m not sure if your targeting me or WG, because my point is WG are not listening to people with good suggestions.

 

Yeah, I basically just added / agreed with what you said. 

And I think it's rather insulting to see them claim they listened to us, whereas that's really not the case. 



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View PostRaiBOT01, on 07 June 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

New tanks will be added in the future to the new Merc line as well as the current tech trees.  Don't forget we also have new tech trees to be release.  Unsure why tankers feel or think tanks the community want will not be coming to the game :) 

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 07 June 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

 

1: New tanks will be added in the future to the new Merc line as well as the current tech trees.  Don't forget we also have new tech trees to be release.

2: Unsure why tankers feel or think tanks the community want will not be coming to the game :) 

 

1: Good to hear there will be more vehicles added to the current tech trees and new tech trees.

 

2: People feel that tanks the community wants in game aren't coming because so far, they really haven't. Hundreds of unique vehicles (non-reskins) have been proposed in the 4 years this game has been running and I can count on one hand how many of them have been added. Now of course it takes time to fully research, design, balance, and test vehicles before adding them to the game but it shouldn't take 4 years.

 

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View PostBeta582, on 07 June 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

 

1: Good to hear there will be more vehicles added to the current tech trees and new tech trees.

 

2: People feel that tanks the community wants in game aren't coming because so far, they really haven't. Hundreds of unique vehicles (non-reskins) have been proposed in the 4 years this game has been running and I can count on one hand how many of them have been added. Now of course it takes time to fully research, design, balance, and test vehicles before adding them to the game but it shouldn't take 4 years.

 

Not trying to be insulting or rude, just trying to give honest feedback.

 

British Lights for starters please Rai if possible, PC don't have and need more of "We need the Chieftain" from them like we do to them on a regular basis.

 

Make it happen please Dev's then look at US Mediums and other lines :)



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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 07 June 2018 - 03:48 PM, said:

PC don't have and need more of "We need the Chieftain" from them like we do to them on a regular basis.

 

Not sure there's this obsession with whether or not PC players are like 'We need this/We need that'. When very rarely do they actually care.


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View PostBeta582, on 07 June 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

 

1: Good to hear there will be more vehicles added to the current tech trees and new tech trees.

 

2: People feel that tanks the community wants in game aren't coming because so far, they really haven't. Hundreds of unique vehicles (non-reskins) have been proposed in the 4 years this game has been running and I can count on one hand how many of them have been added. Now of course it takes time to fully research, design, balance, and test vehicles before adding them to the game but it shouldn't take 4 years.

 

Not trying to be insulting or rude, just trying to give honest feedback.

 

I am afraid honest, open, and very constructive feedback just does not seem to cut it.




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