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UltimoPit385186 #1 Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:11 PM

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I've just noticed a news item saying E3 has stirred this up with Fortnite not being cross platform between the Switch and PS4.

 

I guess mounting pressure may cause them to give in and allow it at some point. I can dream.



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View PostUltimoPit385186, on 14 June 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

I've just noticed a news item saying E3 has stirred this up with Fortnite not being cross platform between the Switch and PS4.

 

I guess mounting pressure may cause them to give in and allow it at some point. I can dream.

 

Hopefully they do as Xbox plans to do a Collab with Switch. Xbox to PS Crossplay I can understand because SONY and Microsoft are Big Rivals but I don't think the Switch is a major threat? If it is a threat I can understand but if not then theirs no reason not to do it.

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Xenith_Inc #3 Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:20 PM

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Not really. What pressure are they under - PS4 was bestselling console in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017.

 

Cross play allows XBox access to the largest userbase, while currently sony has it.



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I'm thick when it comes to these things, but how do they lose customer base and/or market share if they cross-platform for tanks?  If they are the best selling console, then they are the best selling console. 

 

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View PostBULLPUPBAKERST1, on 14 June 2018 - 12:25 PM, said:

I'm thick when it comes to these things, but how do they lose customer base and/or market share if they cross-platform for tanks?  If they are the best selling console, then they are the best selling console. 

 

Well not allowing cross-platform keeps you tied to them. Let it happen and people might stop buying PS or Xbox because they can still play with their friends......... I don't think it would make that much difference but I can see their reasoning.

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I think, and give me some rope here, this is purely to twist your arm to purchase a PS4, ultimately. They see no gain for them in allowing cross platform gaming. 

Look, if cross platform had been allowed, I would have purchased an Xbox not another PS4. All of my son's friends have PS4's, to play plants versus zombies. 

And remember they make money by having gamers to subscribe to multiplayer networking too. This is necessary for plants versus zombies. 

it is purely a business decision.


                 

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View PostUltimoPit385186, on 14 June 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

I've just noticed a news item saying E3 has stirred this up with Fortnite not being cross platform between the Switch and PS4.

 

I guess mounting pressure may cause them to give in and allow it at some point. I can dream.

Um not sure what pressure you are referring too?. Sony is completely dominating the console wars. Sony will lose nothing by not doing cross platform

. Ms will gain. By allowing its players to play with the dominating console.



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View PostBULLPUPBAKERST1, on 14 June 2018 - 07:25 AM, said:

I'm thick when it comes to these things, but how do they lose customer base and/or market share if they cross-platform for tanks?  If they are the best selling console, then they are the best selling console. 

 

Ok...for SONY, if you want to play with friends (since majority of consoles are PS), then their motive is to have you purchase a PS.   If cross platform play becomes a reality, those with XBOX would have no need to purchase PS.  They could stay on XBOX and play with their friends.  Capitalism at its best.   Unfortunately, I do not see this becoming a reality....:( 

 

 

 


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View PostBYTORtheSn0wd0g, on 14 June 2018 - 09:36 AM, said:

 

Ok...for SONY, if you want to play with friends (since majority of consoles are PS), then their motive is to have you purchase a PS.   If cross platform play becomes a reality, those with XBOX would have no need to purchase PS.  They could stay on XBOX and play with their friends.  Capitalism at its best.   Unfortunately, I do not see this becoming a reality....:( 

 

my friends can flake off...I'm not buying another console to play with them...I guess it's not flawed logic for people really are sheep

 

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Hopefully, it's the pressure/bad press that will rattle Sony.

 

Fortnite is so big at the moment, that irrespective of the consoles involved, its the idea that Sony are restricting the players is the thing that looks bad for them.

 

There have been plenty of other games that have run afoul of the no crossplay policy, but Fortnite is a headline maker and Sony are the "bad guys" in this scenario. 

 

Fingers crossed that Sony panic and cave in, because if they let one game crossplay, they'll have to let every game crossplay.


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It will be cross platform when there is one platform.....Sony is looking to kill off the two sick players that are hanging on for now.

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View PostBrass Drag0n, on 14 June 2018 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hopefully, it's the pressure/bad press that will rattle Sony.

 

Fortnite is so big at the moment, that irrespective of the consoles involved, its the idea that Sony are restricting the players is the thing that looks bad for them.

 

There have been plenty of other games that have run afoul of the no crossplay policy, but Fortnite is a headline maker and Sony are the "bad guys" in this scenario. 

 

Fingers crossed that Sony panic and cave in, because if they let one game crossplay, they'll have to let every game crossplay.

This^  With more and more developers promising unified accounts and “play anywhere” capabilities, there’s definitely some pressure mounting.  Regardless of Sony’s market dominance, cross play is something that’s better for players and it will ultimately start hurting their bottom line when players start staying with the platforms that offer them exactly what they want.

 

I’m a PS4 player..... But I watched both Xbox’s and Sony’s presentations and I was floored by how much more player-driven Xbox is.  Phil Spencer had a clear message that giving gamers the experiences they deserve and demand would be fulfilled above all else.  He genuinely seems passionate about the art form as well.

 

Sony’s presentation was just a string of trailers for upcoming games.  The only thing a live person said to an audience was “we don’t care enough to talk to you... watch these shiny things”.



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View PostBrogueOne, on 14 June 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

ultimately start hurting their bottom line when players start staying with the platforms that offer them exactly what they want.

 

As any serious business company, Sony is monitoring the stats closely. If or when the numbers are going to advocate cross-platform gaming ahead of anything else, they will cave in. But not before.

 

 


                 

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View PostP6X330, on 14 June 2018 - 07:24 PM, said:

 

As any serious business company, Sony is monitoring the stats closely. If or when the numbers are going to advocate cross-platform gaming ahead of anything else, they will cave in. But not before.

 

 

I suppose that’s actually a reflection of Japanese business culture.  That’s not meant to sound derogatory either.  It’s a sensible efficiency from a business perspective.  Xbox, by comparison, is obviously practicing a very Western style of business by taking more risks.



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Bad PR and embarrassment, can sometimes be more of a motivation than the bottom line. Hopefully this will be one of those times.

 

Loved this tweet from @XboxUK to @NintendoUK after Sony ducked replying to the complaints:

 

"wanna play some Fortnite later?"

 


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Without a doubt Sony have the upper hand, but more high profile fuss about cross play may sway them. Like Brass Dragon says... it's all about PR and if image suffers they may do something. To be honest I'd have thought cross play was more about making players feel good about the console, that the console maker gives a damn about them, with exclusive titles drive console uptake more surely?

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View PostXenith_Inc, on 14 June 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

Not really. What pressure are they under - PS4 was bestselling console in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017.

 

Cross play allows XBox access to the largest userbase, while currently sony has it.

 

What pressure are they under?  

Nintendo was king, until complacent and anti-consumer policies.....GameCube faltered.

Sony was king, until complacent and anti-consumer policies.....PS3 struggled HARD

Microsoft was king, until complacent and anti-consumer policies.....Xbox One spun tires for 4 years.

 

Sony's policy on cross-play is good for CEO's bottom line, but it is ironic because they market themselves as the console "for gamers".

Their gamers want this.   

 



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I’m still boggled by Sony’s justification for not allowing cross platform is to “protect” their players. From what? They allow cross play with PCs that can mod their games cheat all they want quite easily as opposed to consoles. What are they protecting their players from other than getting to play with even more people?

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View Postdonny007-THX, on 14 June 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

It will be cross platform when there is one platform.....Sony is looking to kill off the two sick players that are hanging on for now.

 

 

Let’s hope that never happens.


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