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Smash The Trigg #1 Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:15 PM

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So the new SU-152 tank from the Dark horse comics comes with a gun, at tier 7, that has 170 penetration and 770 damage. 770, yes. Enough to kill almost any tier 6 tank. It can't kill I think only the OI in one shot. It two shots a similar tier and cripples tier 8 tanks to very low health if not dead. The original SU-152 does 700 damage with worst overall stats. How is this fair?

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View PostSmash The Trigg, on 11 July 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

So the new SU-152 tank from the Dark horse comics comes with a gun, at tier 7, that has 170 penetration and 770 damage. 770, yes. Enough to kill almost any tier 6 tank. It can't kill I think only the OI in one shot. It two shots a similar tier and cripples tier 8 tanks to very low health if not dead. The original SU-152 does 700 damage with worst overall stats. How is this fair?

 

It does 700 dmg. Same as the TT version. What other stats, Do you consider worse or better?  Their very similar now. You want a carbon copy reskin? 


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View PostSGT Rock 1963, on 11 July 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

 

It does 700 dmg. Same as the TT version. What other stats, Do you consider worse or better?  Their very similar now. You want a carbon copy reskin? 

 

40 more average pen on AP rounds... sounds pretty P2W to me. I only ever used HE or HEAT with the TT tank. I think with 170 pen I would've likely used a lot of AP.

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Can someone be kind enough to guide me to where the SU-152 premium was announced? I can't find this info.

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View PostVery Classy, on 11 July 2018 - 02:30 PM, said:

 

40 more average pen on AP rounds... sounds pretty P2W to me. I only ever used HE or HEAT with the TT tank. I think with 170 pen I would've likely used a lot of AP.

 

^This. 

 

Was about to say something similar. The AP on the TT 152 has 135 pen and is pretty useless so you are relegated to HE or HEAT. 170 pen is enough to curb stomp tier Vs, VI and VIIs easily and nail some VIIIs too without ever having to use premium or gamble a low roll with HE. 



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Meh... bad link. And Max covered it.

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View PostRarefication, on 11 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

Can someone be kind enough to guide me to where the SU-152 premium was announced? I can't find this info.

 

https://console.worl...s/raining-blood

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View PostVery Classy, on 11 July 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

Meh... bad link. And Max covered it.

 

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Anyone who plays the TT version should be using HEAT with 250mm pen anyways.

 

It doesn't make it better, the only difference it makes is its earning potential. I can accept it but I'd like it if they gave the TT version the same pen.



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View PostRarefication, on 11 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

Can someone be kind enough to guide me to where the SU-152 premium was announced? I can't find this info.

Its in the news Ninja'd lol



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View PostSmash The Trigg, on 11 July 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

So the new SU-152 tank from the Dark horse comics comes with a gun, at tier 7, that has 170 penetration and 770 damage. 770, yes. Enough to kill almost any tier 6 tank. It can't kill I think only the OI in one shot. It two shots a similar tier and cripples tier 8 tanks to very low health if not dead. The original SU-152 does 700 damage with worst overall stats. How is this fair?

 

Yeah the pen advantage is alright but no tier 5-6 (O-I exception) and half of tier 7 are going to take 135mm AP shells anyways, triple over-match still lets you blast through things like an IS-3's roof too. The 175mm is just a little overkill when they both have 250mm HEAT anyways for those VK 100.01 p.

 

Mobility wise it is worse in every regard than the tech tree one including ground resistance. I think the key take away is that its great if you like to blow huge holes in tanks. A tank like the Su-122-44 is at least twice as good in everything else though from angled armor, reload speed, higher DPM, better camo, and a turn speed more than twice the Slayer.

 

Crap after looking at tanks.gg the ISU-122S is straight up better than the tt Su-152 (except in camo).



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View PostVery Classy, on 11 July 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

 

40 more average pen on AP rounds... sounds pretty P2W to me. I only ever used HE or HEAT with the TT tank. I think with 170 pen I would've likely used a lot of AP.

I only use HE anyways on derps. Its 86 pen and 910 dmg.  



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I like the tank! I've played it and been killed by it. The only difference from the tt is the perks of a premium 

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The front of the tank looks like a mangled Chia Pet.  LOL.

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View PostSmash The Trigg, on 11 July 2018 - 09:15 PM, said:

So the new SU-152 tank from the Dark horse comics comes with a gun, at tier 7, that has 170 penetration and 770 damage. 770, yes. Enough to kill almost any tier 6 tank. It can't kill I think only the OI in one shot. It two shots a similar tier and cripples tier 8 tanks to very low health if not dead. The original SU-152 does 700 damage with worst overall stats. How is this fair?

 

Well, enought to kill may be, but not enought penetration to penetrate and not enought accuracy to even hit your target. (premium version 0,52 dispersion, while TT have 0,5).

And too slow engine and traverse speed to even reach comfortable position before game will be over and Tier 7 games doesnt take too long.

 

Thats basicaly old school premium which is basicaly Stock copy of regular tank with slight unreasonable (because why should tank with same modules have different stats ?) buffs which are not enought for this tank to be any good.

 

No idia whats the hype behind this one. Slow to move, slow to traverse, meh camo (cheers to WG's false advertise saying this tank have "EXCELLENT CONCEALMENT"), meh penetration, terrible accuracy, almost blind-like view range (even binos wont help you here), no armour whats so ever and no HP. Basicaly you do 1-2 hit per game and you back to hangar. And you very lucky if you land atleast 1 of these shots.

Well, ok, mb some unicums can dish out some serious destruction from this tank using HEAT only shells. But then this tank wont bring you any silver making it useless as a "Premium tank".


Edited by KilledByPing, 12 July 2018 - 09:06 AM.


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just two examples to 0.52 accuracy

 

http://xboxdvr.com/g.../video/55582198

http://xboxdvr.com/g...video/55581400 :child:


Edited by Monastyre, 12 July 2018 - 09:28 AM.

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View PostSmash The Trigg, on 11 July 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

So the new SU-152 tank from the Dark horse comics comes with a gun, at tier 7, that has 170 penetration and 770 damage. 770, yes. Enough to kill almost any tier 6 tank. It can't kill I think only the OI in one shot. It two shots a similar tier and cripples tier 8 tanks to very low health if not dead. The original SU-152 does 700 damage with worst overall stats. How is this fair?

 

Ha ha ha that tank is all luck monastyre here has excellent videos showing just that pay to win LOL

 

View PostMonastyre, on 12 July 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

 

I will just stick to my Chinese td's and the borsig if i want that damage output heck the Chinese tier 8 td is just a jagtiger in damage output but no one cares about that.

 

I am glad when i do this these guys are not on here calming my borsig is pay to win or op



KNALLLER #18 Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:29 AM

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Next reskin... WG console US is so usless and incompetent ..Unbelievable 

Thanks to WarGaming anti-EU attitude and disgusting deleting of non-English speaking communities ,,I,,

 

 

 


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View PostSmash The Trigg, on 11 July 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

So the new SU-152 tank from the Dark horse comics comes with a gun, at tier 7, that has 170 penetration and 770 damage.

 

 

.....Its actually 175 penetration :hiding:


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