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Vampire_Izumi #1 Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:35 AM

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here are my thoughts of Tiger 131 VS Slapjack in terms of performance:

Matchmaking:    Tier                7                          8                      9

Tiger 131                            Great                    Decent             PMM

Slapjack                           Fantastic                  Meh              Useless

Scale: 1-10       Useless=1 Meh=3 Decent=6 Great=8 Fantastic=9 PMM=10

Tiger 131 = 24/30

Slapjack = 13/30

Top Tier the Slapjack has the overall advantage, because it has many things over the Tiger 131.

the Slapjack has better rate of fire and armor than the Tiger 131, meaning it will do better top tier VS the Tiger 131. (Tiger 131 RoF : 10.91, Slapjack RoF: 11.54)

the Slapjack instantly loses it's strengths when it has to fight Tier 8, mainly because  of poor pen, gun mantlet, mobility and armor starts failing. (Tiger 131 pen: 169/227/53, Slapjack pen: 145/194/44).

The Tiger 131 Dominates the Slapjack in tier 9 matches, simply because it does not even see tier 9 battles (unless fail platooned), wile the Slapjack has to fight them and can not pen them or even bounce shells from them.

 

Overall winner: Tiger 131

 

Edit: sad thing is, the Tiger 131, a Expensive tier 7 PREMIUM, is still majorly cheaper than the TECH TREE Slapjack (half the price)... Tiger 131 = 7,700 gold Slapjack = 15k+ gold (but can be earned)


Edited by greenteam117, 02 August 2018 - 01:40 AM.

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I concur with the overall summary.  They are both great tanks, but the Slapjack is VERY matchmaking dependent.

 

Honestly, I think both the Bulwark and the Slapjack could use PMM.


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View PostPontiac Pat, on 02 August 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

I concur with the overall summary.  They are both great tanks, but the Slapjack is VERY matchmaking dependent.

 

Honestly, I think both the Bulwark and the Slapjack could use PMM.

 

agreed! the slapjack needs PMM majorly, that or a better gun.

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Not even a contest. Slapass is garbage, 131 is almost the best tank in the game.

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I wish I had realized it was the short 88 on the tank before I got so deep into the contract but on the last stage now and intend to finish it. I think if it had the same pen stats as the 131 it would be okay but as it is now it's just a waste of space on the team roster.

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It’s not really a contest since the Tiger 131 has PMM plus better pen values.

 

LOL @ those who bought the Slapjack rather than buying a Tiger 131. 



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why are you comparing to the 131 ?

 

the Slapjack has the TT Tigers short 88.



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Like all other Merc. PoS’s - Slapjerk needs some buffs to be competitive. Yeah - PMM would be good but I would say the best way to balance it would be a pen buff to the levels of the Tiger I (plus Hammer, Adler etc.).
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View Postf1mitku, on 02 August 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

Like all other Merc. PoS’s - Slapjerk needs some buffs to be competitive. Yeah - PMM would be good but I would say the best way to balance it would be a pen buff to the levels of the Tiger I (plus Hammer, Adler etc.).

 

it has the Tigers pen already.

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View PostWroclaw, on 02 August 2018 - 05:40 PM, said:

why are you comparing to the 131 ?

 

the Slapjack has the TT Tigers short 88.

 

because both have the same role basicly, just different guns that are very similar.

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View PostWroclaw, on 02 August 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

 

it has the Tigers pen already.

 

No. Slapjerk has 145/194 mm pen (Standard/Prammo) like stock Tiger I.

An upgraded Tiger I (Hammer and Adler) top gun has 203/237 mm pen. 


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View Postgreenteam117, on 02 August 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

 

because both have the same role basicly, just different guns that are very similar.

 

your not making any sense. the Slapjack has the Tech Trees gun & sees the same tier as the tech tree. theres no reason to compare it to the PMM buffed pen premium 131.

Edited by Wroclaw, 02 August 2018 - 09:16 AM.


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View Postf1mitku, on 02 August 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

 

No. Slapjerk has 145/194 mm pen (Standard/Prammo) like stock Tiger I.

An upgraded Tiger I (Hammer and Adler) top gun has 203/237 mm pen. 

 

how about you look up the gun that both have.

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View PostWroclaw, on 02 August 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

 

your not making any sense. the Slapjack has the Tech Trees gun 7 sees the same tier as the tech tree. theres no reason to compare it to the buffed pen 131.

 

they both fill the same roles is what i am saying though, that is why i compared them, if you look at my original post i even bring up the pen as a huge reason the slapjack is bad in tier 8 matches and useless in tier 9 matches.

the Tiger 131 and Slapjack both fire very fast with a short 88mm wile having poor armor. i never even said they had the same gun. but they have the same role because of their guns.

View Postgreenteam117, on 02 August 2018 - 10:35 AM, said:

the Slapjack instantly loses it's strengths when it has to fight Tier 8, mainly because of poor pen, gun mantlet, mobility and armor starts failing. (Tiger 131 pen: 169/227/53, Slapjack pen: 145/194/44).


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View PostWroclaw, on 02 August 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:

 

how about you look up the gun that both have.

 

OK. So buff the gun name also... from 56 to 71. How about look up which other tanks I’ve mentioned - Hammer and Adler. It’s pretty clear which gun I mean. 
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View Postgreenteam117, on 02 August 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

they both fill the same roles is what i am saying though, that is why i compared them, if you look at my original post i even bring up the pen as a huge reason the slapjack is bad in tier 8 matches and useless in tier 9 matches.

the Tiger 131 and Slapjack both fire very fast with a short 88mm wile having poor armor. i never even said they had the same gun. but they have the same role because of their guns.

 

but if your going to review the performance of the Slapjack, then use the Tiger that shoots the same as it. because not only does the 131 have PMM, but it also has a generous buff to its pen.

 

View Postf1mitku, on 02 August 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

OK. So buff the gun name also... from 56 to 71. How about look up which other tanks I’ve mentioned - Hammer and Adler. It’s pretty clear which gun I mean. 

 

Slapjack doesnt have stock Tiger gun, & it doesnt have final Tiger gun. you mention 2 tanks that also dont have the Tigers short 88.



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View PostWroclaw, on 02 August 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

 

but if your going to review the performance of the Slapjack, then use the Tiger that shoots the same as it. because not only does the 131 have PMM, but it also has a generous buff to its pen.

 

 

Slapjack doesnt have stock Tiger gun, & it doesnt have final Tiger gun. you mention 2 tanks that also dont have the Tigers short 88.

 

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View PostWroclaw, on 02 August 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

 

but if your going to review the performance of the Slapjack, then use the Tiger that shoots the same as it. because not only does the 131 have PMM, but it also has a generous buff to its pen.

 

 

Slapjack doesnt have stock Tiger gun, & it doesnt have final Tiger gun. you mention 2 tanks that also dont have the Tigers short 88.

 

There are times when you don't make a lot of sense. This is one of them.

 

Are you saying it's not the Tigers stock gun because the stock package for the Tiger H is the 75mm for some reason? That's our package system at work. On PC you can equip the short 8.8 without any upgrades.

 

Would you be less picky if we said it has the tier 6 VK's last gun?


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There's really no comparison. . Tiger 131 wins 9 times out of ten. Its just superior in every way. 

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View PostTempest fox3, on 02 August 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

 

There are times when you don't make a lot of sense. This is one of them.

 

to see what the Slapjack is like, you dont use the 131. you use the TT Tiger.

 

it isnt a premium with PMM. it doesnt have the buffed 131 pen. its tier 7 counterpart is the TT Tiger with the short 88. you wouldnt pick the 131.

 

im not being picky here. in a Slapjack release thread greenteam chimed in with a "so its the 131 gun then" as a comment. i dont think hes either clicked regarding that fact, or bothers with any other Tiger except the 131.







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