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vanstypeks #41 Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:32 AM

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Will teams that participated in 7on7 Europe, that was canceled, have satisfaction for lost time and stress?

 


Addicted2Pron #42 Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:33 PM

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I just wanted to update this thread with the latest news I received via my ESL ticket.

For the NA 7v7 tournament ESL has acknowledged my teams results were handled incorrectly and gave us 15 ESL premium days.

These ESL premium days are just for the ESL website. While this was a nice effort to make things right we have no use for the ESL websites premium time. My team doesnt really play many competitive games besides WOT.

Ingame compensation could not be offered as that is handled directly by Wargaming.

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I'm not sure if this initial mistake had something to do with the cancellation of the EU 7v7 Tourney but one can only assume.

I do hope this issue gets sorted out so we can have some sort of tournaments in the future.

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Rewards and for the NA Tournament for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th are being credited.  I am also coordinating with them to let me know the tank they would like to have credited to their accounts.

 

Participating silver for NA tournament for all teams who participated was credited along with a 1 day of premium for their time and the inconvenience for some during some log in issues. 

 

Since the ESL EU Tournament was canceled, we are also giving the players who signed up for it, 1 day of premium for the inconvenience. 

 

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VengefulOath #44 Posted 16 August 2018 - 05:34 PM

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 16 August 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

Hello

 

Rewards and for the NA Tournament for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th are being credited.  I am also coordinating with them to let me know the tank they would like to have credited to their accounts.

 

Participating silver for NA tournament for all teams who participated was credited along with a 1 day of premium for their time and the inconvenience for some during some log in issues. 

 

Since the ESL EU Tournament was canceled, we are also giving the players who signed up for it, 1 day of premium for the inconvenience. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions. 

 

My clan has received parts of their rewards, do I just wait more? I was on the Kappa team on the ESL website it shows me participating in all the battles.

 

I will be contact each and one of you separately via private messages. 


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View PostRaiBOT01, on 16 August 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Hello

 

Rewards and for the NA Tournament for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th are being credited.  I am also coordinating with them to let me know the tank they would like to have credited to their accounts.

 

Participating silver for NA tournament for all teams who participated was credited along with a 1 day of premium for their time and the inconvenience for some during some log in issues. 

 

Since the ESL EU Tournament was canceled, we are also giving the players who signed up for it, 1 day of premium for the inconvenience. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions. 

 

First let me say thanks for the silver and premium time. I just dont agree that the tank prizes should still be rewarded.

 

Its reasonable to assume Kappa would have won anyways as they have won a majority of the previous tournaments.

 

My issue is who's to say where the rest of us would have placed if we had a chance to compete?

 

Hypothetically, My team could have been on our A game and destoyed Kappa or won by basecap. Nobody knows how it would have played out without actually playing the battle and now theres no way to fix it without a time machine.

 

To make it fair everyones results should be null and void and a new tournament should be setup or everyone should get the tank prize.



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View PostRaiBOT01, on 16 August 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

Hello

 

Rewards and for the NA Tournament for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th are being credited.  I am also coordinating with them to let me know the tank they would like to have credited to their accounts.

 

Participating silver for NA tournament for all teams who participated was credited along with a 1 day of premium for their time and the inconvenience for some during some log in issues. 

 

Since the ESL EU Tournament was canceled, we are also giving the players who signed up for it, 1 day of premium for the inconvenience. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions. 

 

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 16 August 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Hello

 

Rewards and for the NA Tournament for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th are being credited.  I am also coordinating with them to let me know the tank they would like to have credited to their accounts.

 

Participating silver for NA tournament for all teams who participated was credited along with a 1 day of premium for their time and the inconvenience for some during some log in issues. 

 

Since the ESL EU Tournament was canceled, we are also giving the players who signed up for it, 1 day of premium for the inconvenience. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions. 

This is just one more joke right?

 

Nobody should get anything out of a cheating faked setup ESL tournameant that in the end got canceled.

 

This has nothing to do with the winners of prizes cause they did nothing wrong but look at any sporting event in the wide world this is like being winning by deafault and should be treated as such.



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View PostAddicted2Pron, on 16 August 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

First let me say thanks for the silver and premium time. I just dont agree that the tank prizes should still be rewarded.

 

Its reasonable to assume Kappa would have won anyways as they have won a majority of the previous tournaments.

 

My issue is who's to say where the rest of us would have placed if we had a chance to compete?

 

Hypothetically, My team could have been on our A game and destoyed Kappa or won by basecap. Nobody knows how it would have played out without actually playing the battle and now theres no way to fix it without a time machine.

 

To make it fair everyones results should be null and void and a new tournament should be setup or everyone should get the tank prize.

 

No matter how you look at it Kappa guaranteed their spot at 2nd place because we won our place there in the upper bracket to the finals without any issues. The issues were in the lower bracket, and even then B_O_B was able to set up their own games in team training with the approval of the discord admin. We won 2nd place fair and square because the upper bracket ran smoothly. I highly doubt PIRAI could beat B_O_B so until you've done that don't even think you had a chance in the Grand Finals. We beat GMW who rightfully earned their spot in the Grand Finals by beating the teams there. Kappa has been winning in NA so why would anything change, especially when GMW was our strongest opposition and still lost 7-1. GMW no offense to you lads yall were great.

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View PostVengefulOath, on 16 August 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

No matter how you look at it Kappa guaranteed their spot at 2nd place because we won our place there in the upper bracket to the finals without any issues. The issues were in the lower bracket, and even then B_O_B was able to set up their own games in team training with the approval of the discord admin. We won 2nd place fair and square because the upper bracket ran smoothly. I highly doubt PIRAI could beat B_O_B so until you've done that don't even think you had a chance in the Grand Finals. We beat GMW who rightfully earned their spot in the Grand Finals by beating the teams there. Kappa has been winning in NA so why would anything change, especially when GMW was our strongest opposition and still lost 7-1. GMW no offense to you lads yall were great.

 

Like I said I am not contesting the fact that you didn't earn your win. I am contesting that others were not given a chance to compete. We (Pirai) officially won our match and could not advance. Therefore the prizes for this rigged ESL tourny should be null and void or we should all get one. If everything went accordingly and the tournament was fair then I wouldnt mind Wargaming giving out prizes to the top 4.  While you "doubt" we could have advanced further who's to say how it would have turned out? You fought our leftovers (5demon). Congrats on that win.

 



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View PostVengefulOath, on 16 August 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

No matter how you look at it Kappa guaranteed their spot at 2nd place because we won our place there in the upper bracket to the finals without any issues. The issues were in the lower bracket, and even then B_O_B was able to set up their own games in team training with the approval of the discord admin. We won 2nd place fair and square because the upper bracket ran smoothly. I highly doubt PIRAI could beat B_O_B so until you've done that don't even think you had a chance in the Grand Finals. We beat GMW who rightfully earned their spot in the Grand Finals by beating the teams there. Kappa has been winning in NA so why would anything change, especially when GMW was our strongest opposition and still lost 7-1. GMW no offense to you lads yall were great.

We as PIRAI beat you all the time in normal combat multiplayer game so to use B.O.B as a devider is low and plain useless [edited].

 

What are you talking about as low bracket?

 

We already said that KAPPA won so why in the do you use PIRAI as chep losers?

 

We as PIRAI would never accept the prices as win by defauld cause that is just plain stupid and as a manifest against all tankers that sat in this ESL tournameants wasting time and then handed out some compensation in form of silver from WG wish i have absolutley no   Influence about.

 

To be greedy does not serve anyone and i really hope WG figure this out cause PIRAI will always be in competetive gaming but to be competetive have a meaning to us.



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Vengefuloath, buddy, i don’t know you, but you need to take a serious self evaluation!  I have spoke to Havoc, and he seems like a level headed guy, but you sir, seem like a child, after a cat has relieved itself in your sand box!!!  Even if ya’ll wipe the floor with us Saturday night, what have you accomplished??  What, to prove that you earned your tanks and prizes?  I mean, you don’t win 8 tournaments by luck, there has to be some serious skill there.  Your “rock kicking” episode on this thread is more spectacular, than a two year old, throwing a fit on the floor in a local Mall!!!!  Why don’t you be like the majority of your clan, and show some freaking class, instead of the previously mentioned word, minus the C and L!

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Vengefuloath, buddy, i don’t know you, but you need to take a serious self evaluation!  I have spoke to Havoc, and he seems like a level headed guy, but you sir, seem like a child, after a cat has relieved itself in your sand box!!!  Even if ya’ll wipe the floor with us Saturday night, what have you accomplished??  What, to prove that you earned your tanks and prizes?  I mean, you don’t win 8 tournaments by luck, there has to be some serious skill there.  Your “rock kicking” episode on this thread is more spectacular, than a two year old, throwing a fit on the floor in a local Mall!!!!  Why don’t you be like the majority of your clan, and show some freaking class, instead of the previously mentioned word, minus the C and L!

 

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View Postsledge6301, on 16 August 2018 - 10:32 PM, said:

We as PIRAI beat you all the time in normal combat multiplayer game so to use B.O.B as a devider is low and plain useless [edited].

 

What are you talking about as low bracket?

 

We already said that KAPPA won so why in the do you use PIRAI as chep losers?

 

We as PIRAI would never accept the prices as win by defauld cause that is just plain stupid and as a manifest against all tankers that sat in this ESL tournameants wasting time and then handed out some compensation in form of silver from WG wish i have absolutley no   Influence about.

 

To be greedy does not serve anyone and i really hope WG figure this out cause PIRAI will always be in competetive gaming but to be competetive have a meaning to us.

 

We didnt win by default any game, we won every single game fighing against the opponent in a battle (no disqualification of the enemy team), you can check it if you want. So, why we dont deserve the prizes?

 

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View PostVULCANMARC, on 16 August 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

We didnt win by default any game, we won every single game fighing against the opponent in a battle (no disqualification of the enemy team), you can check it if you want. So, why we dont deserve the prizes?

 

Once more i dont have anything against your clan or your win infact i am happy for you what i am against you can read on thie tread it is in black and white all over.

 

What i say is that if PIRAI have been handed out prices that where in question we would not accept them and we would not going against anyone that where in the same tournameant that is canceled for whatever reason.

 

Everything about fair sportmanship screams to my brain this is unfair and for me on a personal level being in real life competitions just cant see any reason to change my commitmeant for any game.

 

What to say to all tankers that did not get the chance lets here you on that?



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View PostVULCANMARC, on 16 August 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

We didnt win by default any game, we won every single game fighing against the opponent in a battle (no disqualification of the enemy team), you can check it if you want. So, why we dont deserve the prizes?

 

We understand you got to fight every match and rightfully deserve something. Maybe more silver then what was provided to everyone else. But honestly because teams got shafted like (Pirai)  and the same as whatever team (darden73) played for a tank should not be given. The standings in the bracket are not legit because the ESL admin ruined our chances. There is no way to determine who would have placed where. Granted kappa could have possibly come in first due to where they placed in previous tournaments how can you in all certainty know that the positons would not have changed? Everyone should have an equal opportunity to compete.



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View PostVULCANMARC, on 16 August 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

That is a waste of time. ESL NA Tournament was won by kappa and we will get (hopefully if WG do what have to do) the prizes. Stop complaining about it.

 

This says more then i hoped for but i guess you are fine with it .

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I am in conversations with ESL about the reports that occurred during the tournament.  I understand that some players are disappointed but we will be escalating every report.  I wanted to credit players so they are not waiting for their rewards. That includes players who made it to the top 4 and participating silver.  Since this thread is escalating, I will be closing it.  If there are any other questions please let me know via private messages.    

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