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Joco3000 #1 Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:02 AM

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I play quite a few tier VIII premiums, and as I have a fair few of them, I casually look around to see what others are driving.

 

Obviously, things like the Object 252U are very common tanks. And tanks like the Vindicator are rather rare vehicles. This is to be expected, as the Object 252U is a very good tank (and I think it's still on sale? I can't check, as you can't view the ones you already own on the premium tech tree), and the Vindicator is only slightly more effective than a M4 Sherman. It also is very rarely on sale (It was available very recently, mind. Expensive bundle, so I can't recommend it, but if you want it, it's 17k).

 

However, some of what I see doesn't make too much sense to me. For example, FCM 50t's seem to be less common than their painted counterparts. Motherlands are more common than T-54 '45's, and Hollenhunds outnumber their grey counterparts. This is despite the increased cost and less frequent availability of the pained versions. 

And then you have the tech tree premiums that are so rarely seen. The STA-2 is a glaring example of that, as I'm sure I've seen more Valkyria Chronicles tanks as of late than that thing.

 

Does anyone have any idea why this might be?


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scwirpeo #2 Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:11 AM

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Because they are bad?

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I just got the vindicator. And I love it. Wish it held more ammo though

Perfect Dark 51 #4 Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:21 AM

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A lot are kind of bad. I use the M41 90mm though I love that tank, coincidentally I have quit using the Brazil that WG refuses to buff.

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View Postscwirpeo, on 12 August 2018 - 08:11 PM, said:

Because they are bad?

 

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View Postscwirpeo, on 13 August 2018 - 03:11 AM, said:

Because they are bad?

 

I see far more T95E2's than STA-2's.

That makes no sense.


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Sentience #7 Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:31 AM

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The STA-2 is probably due to the average person not knowing it gets preferred matchmaking on console.

One pet peeve of mine is the inability to quickly assess matchmaking of tanks you do not own.

(And no, using the website doesn’t count. Something that basic should be in-game)

 

The Hollenhund is probably down to taste. It has a pair of dangling skulls hanging from the cannon. Not to mention, it gets brought up for sale as a Halloween event tank.

 


 

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rrmike #8 Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:32 AM

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Giveaway tanks.  Everybody and their mom got a motherland.  T95 was given away in American dream machines op.  Liberte used to be cheaper than the unpainted one on 4th of July.

I dislike both the Valkyrie tanks so I have no idea why somebody would play them over the godly STA 1.5

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View PostJoco3000, on 12 August 2018 - 07:26 PM, said:

 

I see far more T95E2's than STA-2's.

That makes no sense.

 

Well when you aren't good at the game anyway it won't make a difference what you play. The e2 won't get penned by HE if you play like an idiot. If I had to guess the reason that would be it.



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View Postrrmike, on 12 August 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

Giveaway tanks. Everybody and their mom got a motherland. T95 was given away in American dream machines op. Liberte used to be cheaper than the unpainted one on 4th of July.

I dislike both the Valkyrie tanks so I have no idea why somebody would play them over the godly STA 1.5

 

Oh, that’s easy. There’s a very vocal minority of people who are really into that kind of thing.

 

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View Postrrmike, on 12 August 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

Giveaway tanks. Everybody and their mom got a motherland. T95 was given away in American dream machines op. Liberte used to be cheaper than the unpainted one on 4th of July.

I dislike both the Valkyrie tanks so I have no idea why somebody would play them over the godly STA 1.5

 

Because I killed a isu 152 from full HP with a sidescrape earlier. 140mm of side armor on the top half and like 100 on the lower half is the definition of broken. You play them because they aren't balanced.



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View PostSentience, on 12 August 2018 - 09:34 PM, said:

 

Oh, that’s easy. There’s a very vocal minority of people who are really into that kind of thing.

 

if it was a minority they wouldn't have sold them license deals aren't cheap. If say it's more a vocal minority who hate all tanks not in a history book 

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View PostTemplarKnight75, on 12 August 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

if it was a minority they wouldn't have sold them license deals aren't cheap. If say it's more a vocal minority who hate all tanks not in a history book 

 

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Well I usually only use my prems when I want to get a skill or need some silver. So I play the tanks that can train the crew or for silver the Groin Itch and the Motherland (surprised that I seem to make more with this than the Fatherland) and maybe another T8 prem, but that one will usually be for a specific crew. 

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View PostSentience, on 12 August 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

 

See what I mean? Thanks for proving my point.

 

you don't really have a point you have nothing to back up non historical tanks being  minority if anything this thread shows the opposite. I'll never understand the desire to hate something other people enjoy just because you Don't 

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View PostJoco3000, on 12 August 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

 

I see far more T95E2's than STA-2's.

That makes no sense.

The T95E2 was a free tank


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View PostNightOfDeaths, on 12 August 2018 - 08:02 PM, said:

The T95E2 was a free tank

 

Still not worth using.



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Perhaps player skill ceiling and also circumstance?

 

The Liberte was part of the Independence bundle way back when. I bought it for the Freedom and Knight is the Liberte was a freebie to me. I’d never buy the FCM 50t, never seemed like a worthwhile tank and I already own (and hardly play) the Liberte. 

 

Like many others said, earn ops make some tanks prevalent nowadays like the T95E2. 

 

Back when I was a potato the STA-2 looked like a useless tank. A paper tank for a nation with few vehicles in the TT. Why bother? I know now how strong of a tank it is, but back then it seemed like a unicum only tank (and for many it probably still is).   



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Joco you mentioned the Hell hound being used more so than the M41 90mm. There is no real difference between the two except a few extra concealment points for the named vehicles, as is the same with all named vehicles vs thier normal unpainted premium cousins. There are a few that are unique and I know of only one premium that is better than its TT fully upgraded precurser, the Firefly vs the Boilermaker. I prefer the non reskined/painted vs the paintable (camo able), of course some premium reskins can be camoflaged. There may be other modifiers to silver/XP bonuses that benefit the special paint job tanks. We didnt make the game so why it doesnt make sense, well it is all about the money.

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There are also tanks more profitable than others, with 4 or 5 shots in a fatherland you made between 60 and 100K, for the same amount of money in a Panther 8.8 it is almost empty your ammorack (especially that it does not penetrate for 50% of times).

Then there are tanks that everyone has in his garage: fatherland, motherland, churchill III, captured KV1. cromwell B, Snakebite, Lycan ...... if everyone has them it's normal to see them more often in games than those that have never been distributed for free.

 

Then there are those who can not be controlled by everyone. Many players play all their tanks in the same way (this is what happens when you do not like playing hundreds of games with a single tank). The problem is that many premium tanks require an exclusive game, if you play a cromwell B as you would an ordinary medium (or even a Knight) ... it will be really bad. It's the same thing with the E25, the Slapjack (not a bonus) and others that ask who needs to be played differently. As the majority of people have a "universal" style of play that they apply to all their tanks, it does not go at all with these .... they do not use them.


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