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jprs201024 #1 Posted 10 September 2018 - 08:52 AM

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Hello,

 

I have tried to do the contract of this tank, but what they asking for in 5th stage, I can't reach it with light tanks… So, I give up of doing this contract…  It's a pity, but these contracts are not intended for those who work and therefore, do not have time to do certain stages ...

Okay, we can overcome the stage, paying for it, but at this moment, attending to everything that this game offers, I will not invest money to overcome one of the stages of the contract...


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I'll not sign/start this contract at all because of this Stage 5 silly requirement (to get 2 HC medals in lights)... in order to avoid such thread later.

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View Postjprs201024, on 10 September 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

Hello,

 

I have tried to do the contract of this tank, the but what they asking for in 5th stage, I can't reach with light tanks… So, I give up of doing this contract…  It's a pity, but these contracts are not intended for those who work and therefore, do not have time to do certain stages ...

Okay, we can overcome the stage, paying for it, but at this moment, attending to everything that this game offers, I will not invest money to overcome one of the stages of the contract...

 

Agree it's the hardest requirement and you can't skip it for Gold either. Once you pass it, it becomes easier even though final 2 stages are really grindy, they aren't tough.

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Silent Guns18 #4 Posted 10 September 2018 - 09:11 AM

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Use the  American t21  Light tank that's how I got past it

KilledByPing #5 Posted 10 September 2018 - 09:17 AM

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View Postjprs201024, on 10 September 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

Hello,

 

I have tried to do the contract of this tank, the but what they asking for in 5th stage, I can't reach with light tanks… So, I give up of doing this contract…  It's a pity, but these contracts are not intended for those who work and therefore, do not have time to do certain stages ...

Okay, we can overcome the stage, paying for it, but at this moment, attending to everything that this game offers, I will not invest money to overcome one of the stages of the contract...

 

That complain is stupid. There are no impossible stages in Sharpshooter contract. Some of them require skills, thats right. And this is exactly what you expect from OP to earn end game content.

Skipping stages with gold should not be possible at all. It depreciates value of the prize since any noob with thick wallet can get it.

 

The only stupid thing about contracts for tier 7-10 mercenaries is outrageous ammount of XP you have to grind in a limited ammount of time. It requires way too much time even with Premium account.

 

Other than that it's ok (expect the fact you have to use Light tanks almost all the way thru contract even thou there are 0 Light Tanks modules used in SharpShooter :trollface:). Tier 8-10 contracts should not be easily taken by anybody without time and skill investments.


Edited by KilledByPing, 10 September 2018 - 09:22 AM.


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View PostSilent Guns18, on 10 September 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

Use the American t21 Light tank that's how I got past it

 

Yeah T21/T37 and also T71 DA and hope you have godly MM as worse the MM, more damage you need.

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jprs201024 #7 Posted 10 September 2018 - 09:55 AM

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 10 September 2018 - 09:23 AM, said:

 

Yeah T21/T37 and also T71 DA and hope you have godly MM as worse the MM, more damage you need.

 

Yah, yesterday the MM as ruin all my battles when with the two T71, I have played always against tiers 9... I can do HC medals with med tanks, heavies and TDs tanks… But with light tanks, I have made HC medals but only with thepähpanzer I C and with the MT-25, and I can´t use this two tanks to do this stage…
So, I hope they in future change the requirements of this tank… If they don't do it… Well, I play only with the Cruncher as a Merc tank… 

 

Edited by jprs201024, 10 September 2018 - 09:56 AM.


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View PostKilledByPing, on 10 September 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

 

That complain is stupid. There are no impossible stages in Sharpshooter contract. Some of them require skills, thats right. And this is exactly what you expect from OP to earn end game content.

Skipping stages with gold should not be possible at all. It depreciates value of the prize since any noob with thick wallet can get it.

 

The only stupid thing about contracts for tier 7-10 mercenaries is outrageous ammount of XP you have to grind in a limited ammount of time. It requires way too much time even with Premium account.

 

Other than that it's ok (expect the fact you have to use Light tanks almost all the way thru contract even thou there are 0 Light Tanks modules used in SharpShooter :trollface:). Tier 8-10 contracts should not be easily taken by anybody without time and skill investments.

 

​Except the Merc line is supposed to be a tech tree line - They are not Premium tanks that give you an XP or Silver bonus. So they should not be harder to acquire than a TT tank.

 

Making you use certain tanks to "acquire" the specific parts is fine (though the Sharpshooter 100% fails that requirement) and making you earn the equivalent XP of grinding up to a tier 4, 8 or 10 is fine (though painful when WG include a cut off date). But including a stage that needs you to play a tank in a role it isn't meant to play AND get a medal (twice) that the tank is really hard pressed to win.

 

That is just stupid and unfair.


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View PostKilledByPing, on 10 September 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

 

That complain is stupid. There are no impossible stages in Sharpshooter contract. Some of them require skills, thats right. And this is exactly what you expect from OP to earn end game content.

Skipping stages with gold should not be possible at all. It depreciates value of the prize since any noob with thick wallet can get it.

 

The only stupid thing about contracts for tier 7-10 mercenaries is outrageous ammount of XP you have to grind in a limited ammount of time. It requires way too much time even with Premium account.

 

Other than that it's ok (expect the fact you have to use Light tanks almost all the way thru contract even thou there are 0 Light Tanks modules used in SharpShooter :trollface:). Tier 8-10 contracts should not be easily taken by anybody without time and skill investments.

 

The complain is stupid? Well, I work everyday and I can play only 2 hours at night… And at the weekends I have the family… So, I can't spent hours and hours trying to do this or that stage... 

 

Edited by jprs201024, 10 September 2018 - 10:03 AM.


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View PostBrass Drag0n, on 10 September 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

​Except the Merc line is supposed to be a tech tree line - They are not Premium tanks that give you an XP or Silver bonus. So they should not be harder to acquire than a TT tank.

 

Making you use certain tanks to "acquire" the specific parts is fine (though the Sharpshooter 100% fails that requirement) and making you earn the equivalent XP of grinding up to a tier 4, 8 or 10 is fine (though painful when WG include a cut off date). But including a stage that needs you to play a tank in a role it isn't meant to play AND get a medal (twice) that the tank is really hard pressed to win.

 

That is just stupid and unfair.

 

Agree with you! The requirements are very hard for a non premium tanks!!! 

I have made the Cruncher because two things: the first, it's because the requirements where possible to me to do (the stage 5 it's hard to to do, but I could do it with med tanks); and the second, it's because I was in vacations (and I could spent some time to grind it)…





 

Edited by jprs201024, 10 September 2018 - 10:23 AM.


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Stage 5 is completely ridiculous.  First I have absolutely no problem with the contract being difficult you should have to earn it. This stage not only requires you to be good but in my opinion also requires heavily on matchmaking. If you draw bottom tier in a match you can forget about it.  In all this stage seems like a mistake was made but they refuse to acknowledge/fix it.

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After the first installment of Merc tank Ops where I had only 1 tank I could use for a certain grind I'm not going to bother with any more contracts.

They're designed to frustrate so you spend Gold or abhorrent amounts of time, either trying to get a valid result or unlocking vehicles in the regular tech tree grind which have the specific components neccesary. I'm certainly not going to spend Premium money on non-premium vehicles with no Premium benefits. I can imagine their smug faces laughing all the way to the bank. Maybe in 6 months time when they've revamped it and finally admitted they screwed up.

Just imagine if some regular forumer here had said you'll spend gold on tanks which have no extra benefits and can't even train normal crews. Everybody here would have called them stupid and boo'ed them out.


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View Postjprs201024, on 10 September 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

The complain is stupid? Well, I work everyday and I can play only 2 hours at night… And at the weekends I have the family… So, I can't spent hours and hours trying to do this or that stage... 

 

 

Well, this is exactly what i am talking about. Things like high level Merc tanks IS a end game content which was so much asked by veteran players. I understand you abit obsessed about not be able to earn some of them, but this is exactly the point of end game content. IT should NOT be available to some1 who cant afford to spend enough time or does not possesses the certain skill level. Else earning it for veteran players would not bring them any satisfaction since everybody can get same prize with little effort therefore making this achivement obselete.

 

And no, since its not a Premium Tank it SHOULD NOT be easier to get.

This whole Merc system is almost a copy-paste of PC Personal OP to earn some exlusive tanks. If you look closer you will notice that Contract system and Personal OP from PC work the same way expect of few console specific mechanics.

And guess what ? Tanks which are earned thru Personal OP on PC are valued because they are hard to get. Thats the whole point of that system.


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View PostBrass Drag0n, on 10 September 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

​Except the Merc line is supposed to be a tech tree line - They are not Premium tanks that give you an XP or Silver bonus. So they should not be harder to acquire than a TT tank.

 

Making you use certain tanks to "acquire" the specific parts is fine (though the Sharpshooter 100% fails that requirement) and making you earn the equivalent XP of grinding up to a tier 4, 8 or 10 is fine (though painful when WG include a cut off date). But including a stage that needs you to play a tank in a role it isn't meant to play AND get a medal (twice) that the tank is really hard pressed to win.

 

That is just stupid and unfair.

 

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At first I thought WG was crazy for the HC requirement for Stage 5. Funny thing happened over the weekend, though. I managed to get the two HC's and move on to Stage 6. And seeing that medal each time gave me more joy from this game than it has given me in quite some time. 

 

But no, it is crazy. I was really worried about being hung up on this Stage for a long, long time.

 

Turns out I managed the two HC's (Lycan and T37) before I finished the "Spot 1x your health 7 times" due to fighting for spotting damage with four other Green Lights every game. 

 

Honestly, I was only doing this contract while waiting for other contracts to come around (completed them all except this and Tusk). Now that I got past Stage 5 and its ridiculous roadblock, I feel like I have no choice but to see it through to the end. All 1,243,200 XP of it. That's 20,000 xp per day, every day, to the end of the Op. Good thing Stages 7 & 8 open up a bit as to what tanks you can use. 



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I'm thinking of throwing in the towel on this one too. 5th stage is pretty much impossible for me to do. I'm pretty shite at lights. WG is just clueless on this one.  Whom so ever thought this op up needs to be flogged in the streets.

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I'm with you here.  Towel has been thrown in.  :-(

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View Postf1mitku, on 10 September 2018 - 12:58 AM, said:

I'll not sign/start this contract at all because of this Stage 5 silly requirement (to get 2 HC medals in lights)... in order to avoid such thread later.

 

Yeap I’m stuck on that one. Almost got a HC in my T37 but a t34-88 best me out by 50 points damage. It’s never gonna happen and you can’t buy past it. 

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View Postgiaka, on 10 September 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

 

Yeap I’m stuck on that one. Almost got a HC in my T37 but a t34-88 best me out by 50 points damage. It’s never gonna happen and you can’t buy past it. 

I’ve done top damage in Lights a few times.... but with soooooo many scrambling about it’s almost impossible to avoid friendly collisions. I think that’s my main problem with it(aside from the actual tanks required being incorrect).  I’d be interested in what the data says about the frequency of medals earned by class..... I’m sure Patrol Duty and Scout are undoubtedly earned in high volume by lights, but medals like High Caliber are probably most frequently earned by TDs or Heavies.






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