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Koncorde #81 Posted 20 September 2018 - 06:53 AM

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View Postrarickp1973, on 19 September 2018 - 12:05 AM, said:

Any Excelsior drivers out there have an opinion about it? I rarely see them in matches.

 

I have 3 marks on mine.

 

It's surprisingly fast and agile, has a gun that is slightly better than the T14 in my experience but is still a bit suspect and liable to bounce on Bogatyr's.

 

The armour profile says that it is not as good as the T14, but if you angle, shuffle, and use the gun depression you can easily troll most tanks until they stop auto aiming.

 

It specialises in dealing with enemy mediums and lights (like the V/IV is best at) then mopping up heavies and TD's afterwards. If you go heavy to heavy however you will have to spam premium guaranteed, and your HP trade will weaken you for the clean up.

 

Side scraping can work, but it's real magic is using its butt. Instead of trying to turn to face your enemies, you just let them flank you and use your equally armoured rear like you would your front. I have taken out a C3 to the front, by wiggling and rocking, all the while a T34 bounced on my rear plate, where I then just turned my turret and took him out also. Smarter players will try to get alongside. That's when your agility is worth its weight in gold.



Corporal Upham #82 Posted 22 September 2018 - 04:45 AM

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I'm still trying to get my daily x2 on my T14. I just had an assault game where I moved into the cap circle with another green. A red KV-220-2 and Churchill came in and I couldn't do anything, even with premium ammo. I was just free damage, assist, and defense XP for them.

 

I'm trying to think of a worse gun, tier for tier. Pz. III J? This thing is garbage.


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VT Fuzed #83 Posted 22 September 2018 - 05:05 AM

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View PostJoco3000, on 15 September 2018 - 01:15 AM, said:

Neither.

Both are crap.

 

dont really understand saying this about these or any tanks and 5 people liking it.  yeah others give better stats but are you saying that you cant go out have good games in them regularly cause players do...  like to think the game is about you and your teams response to the map...

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View PostCorporal Upham, on 22 September 2018 - 04:45 AM, said:

I'm still trying to get my daily x2 on my T14. I just had an assault game where I moved into the cap circle with another green. A red KV-220-2 and Churchill came in and I couldn't do anything, even with premium ammo. I was just free damage, assist, and defense XP for them.

 

I'm trying to think of a worse gun, tier for tier. Pz. III J? This thing is garbage.

 

Both of them can be penned in the turret face. But depends on if they angle away from you between shots and if you can hit the spot.



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View PostKoncorde, on 22 September 2018 - 10:23 AM, said:

 

Both of them can be penned in the turret face. But depends on if they angle away from you between shots and if you can hit the spot.

^^ this. T14 and Ripper are both tanks in which you need to know your tier 5 and 6 weak spots. So there’s a learning curve - but once you know you can stand your ground a bit more b/c of the HP pool on the t14. At any kind of distance though, the US gun’s accuracy will be a problem.



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View PostVT Fuzed, on 22 September 2018 - 06:05 AM, said:

 

dont really understand saying this about these or any tanks and 5 people liking it.  yeah others give better stats but are you saying that you cant go out have good games in them regularly cause players do...  like to think the game is about you and your teams response to the map...

Most of this is rather incoherent, but I'll respond to the part I've marked, as I can understand that bit.

 

No, I don't have any issue in playing either the Ram II or T14. I have had some very good games in the Ram II, as it was my go-to crew trainer for the US tree a while back.

The problem is, they are very much mediocre vehicles. The Ram II has mobility issues, and the T14 has some quite severe gun issues. Neither of which make for overall fun times.

If you just want a tier V premium, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if these two are enticing options. If you want US crew training, just get a T26E4 or a Locust, depending on finances.


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VT Fuzed #87 Posted 23 September 2018 - 12:26 AM

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Please forgive my grammar dear sir my parents bought me books, but being such a handsome young lad all i did was console the teachers... . its called text talk and u understand it...  every tank is little different, in this case very different due to the classes.  So if your asking which one 2 choose, run the medium so you can chew on all the light tanks running around and help put stop to all the nonsense...  Cheers ol Boy.  God Speed...

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View PostVT Fuzed, on 23 September 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

Please forgive my grammar dear sir my parents bought me books, but being such a handsome young lad all i did was console the teachers

I'm hardly some ancient being, one family argument away from being put into a care home.

I'm only 25.

View PostVT Fuzed, on 23 September 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

its called text talk and u understand it.

I can (barely), others might not be able to.

Remember, not everyone is from an English speaking country.

 

View PostVT Fuzed, on 23 September 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

every tank is little different, in this case very different due to the classes. 

In this specific case, not really.

The Ram II is actually as quick as many of the heavies of the tier, and is not too far off in terms of armour either.

The two tanks are far more similar than they have any right to be. The basic difference is that the medium has the higher penetration, but sees tier VII.

 

View PostVT Fuzed, on 23 September 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

 So if your asking which one 2 choose, run the medium so you can chew on all the light tanks running around and help put stop to all the nonsense.

 

Yeah, this medium cannot outrun the Churchill III, never mind a light tank.

I actually have both of these tanks, so I'm speaking from user experience.

 

Moot point anyway, as the light tank scourge, due to the tiering of the contracts, only really affects tier VI and up.


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