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SteelReigN81 #1 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:02 AM

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Just now on Mines, got hits received 365, non pen 365 damaged blocked 3202 please buff armour :D


Jope2209 #2 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:05 AM

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Yeah, but what's really funny is your gun on II J. It would struggle to pen a can of Bud Light.

The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).

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Xenith_Inc #3 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:25 AM

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John Arrowsmith #4 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:46 AM

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Struggling to Penn anything and been unable to flank anything is it's strong points.

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MASHMAN 90 #5 Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:36 PM

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i prefer Needle, +1 Tier but actually has a gun.

 

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TocFanKe4 #6 Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:40 PM

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I shot an entire loadout of premium and got 1 pen.  I never drove the tank on Xbox again (that I remember, I do drink a bit)  

 

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Pontiac Pat #7 Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:50 PM

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Bad tank is bad.  If they ever buff the gun I might just use an exception to get it back and give it another go.

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It really needs normal MM instead of the stupid one it has.

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Jope2209 #9 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:13 PM

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View PostPontiac Pat, on 12 October 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

Bad tank is bad.  If they ever buff the gun I might just use an exception to get it back and give it another go.

 

They don't need to buff anything, just allow it to have 2 cm FlaK instead of 2 cm KwK and that should do the trick.

The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).

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Pontiac Pat #10 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:14 PM

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View PostJope2209, on 12 October 2018 - 07:13 AM, said:

 

They don't need to buff anything, just allow it to have 2 cm FlaK instead of 2 cm KwK and that should do the trick.

 

Last I checked, that would qualify as a buff. ;)  You're right about the gun change though.  That, or make the current premium round the standard round and add another better premium round.

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Jope2209 #11 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:22 PM

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Flugabwehrkanone is already available at tier II. Pz.Kpfw. II has it, stock package is KwK and upgrade is Flak. Pen is 39/51 compared to crappy 23/46.

 

Even Loltraktor has better pen at tier I with that Italian 2 cm gun, 30/47.

 


The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).

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marinefish666 #12 Posted 12 October 2018 - 04:06 PM

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Guderian9139 #13 Posted 12 October 2018 - 06:03 PM

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Once I ran into a fellow Pz II J on the reds.

the two of stood point blank for a full minute trying to get rounds into the view ports :teethhappy:


 

 

 

 


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View PostJope2209, on 12 October 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

 

Even Loltraktor has better pen at tier I with that Italian 2 cm gun, 30/47.

 

 

I still use the single shot 3.7 mm gun.  It gets 40/74 pen :D


 

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Morpheus02007 #15 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:47 PM

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The Needle is a real winner. Probably one of the best tier IV tanks in the game. Better then the Pz B2, better armor and better gun. Even no problem with Matilda's.
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View PostGuderian9139, on 12 October 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

Once I ran into a fellow Pz II J on the reds.

the two of stood point blank for a full minute trying to get rounds into the view ports :teethhappy:

 

Back in the good old days of the little tank that could, I ran into a red Pz.II J with mine - we traded shots until we both ran out. Funny, had 400 direct hits that game - looks great on the gunner stats.

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View PostPit Friend, on 12 October 2018 - 03:00 PM, said:

It really needs normal MM instead of the stupid one it has.

 

so you think it should see T5?

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 13 October 2018 - 07:48 AM, said:

 

so you think it should see T5?

 

I think he meant normal pref MM as opposed to the anti pref it has now. 

I want the old Chaffee back.

 

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 13 October 2018 - 02:48 AM, said:

 

so you think it should see T5?

 

I see them in tier V games already. The thing might have a chance to shine if it could sometimes get into tier III games. 

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View PostPit Friend, on 13 October 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

 

I see them in tier V games already. The thing might have a chance to shine if it could sometimes get into tier III games. 

 

How could they be in a tier 5 game? Had my Pz.II J for four years, as far as I can remember never had a tier 5 game in it. Have been here long enough to remember a few tier 3 games, so long ago.....




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