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Jope2209 #21 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:05 PM

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View PostJoco3000, on 12 October 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

If they give me my Autoloading Tiger, that is. 

 

Czech premium chainsaw Tiger? I'll take one too..:teethhappy:

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AJR568 #22 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:06 PM

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View PostJoco3000, on 12 October 2018 - 06:03 AM, said:

It could also be somewhat complicated to actually pull off, so in this case I would let them off. 

 

If they give me my Autoloading Tiger, that is. 

Reduce health and reload. Job done. Good Russian tier 8 premium TD that wouldnt need limited MM.

 

Tbh I just want my OP wagon of doom

 

Edit: preferably for free


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AJR568 #23 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:07 PM

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Also the regular tiger is basically an autoloader with that stupid RoF lol

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Nuke2099 #24 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:23 PM

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View PostAJR568, on 12 October 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

That's ridiculous. For people that have the 263, regardless if they keep the 122-54, when the 263 gets the T9 treatment just add it alongside and still give the free 268v4. Hopefully they clear this up before the update goes live

 

On PC they never got a free 268v4. They had to grind it from the 263 when it went to tier 9 as far as I know. The only free tank was the 430U if you already had a 430 and the one between the IS-3 and IS-7 was fully researched. 

 

View PostJoco3000, on 12 October 2018 - 12:00 PM, said:

They could just remove the SU-122-54 and make it into a tier VIII premium with similar stats to that Chinese thing. 

 

Or they could link a path from the ISU-152 to the 122-54 going to the 268v4

 

Also it isn't exactly OP....or rather it got nerfed on PC and we will likely be getting the current version on PC. It will still be stupid but not as stupid as it once was. On PC when it got nerfed less people played it because it wasn't overwhelmingly broken anymore.


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AJR568 #25 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:25 PM

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View PostNuke2099, on 12 October 2018 - 06:23 AM, said:

 

On PC they never got a free 268v4. They had to grind it from the 263 when it went to tier 9 as far as I know. The only free tank was the 430U if you already had a 430 and the one between the IS-3 and IS-7 was fully researched. 

 

 

Or they could link a path from the ISU-152 to the 122-54 going to the 268v4

Got a free 257 from the T10. Pretty sure they got a free 268v4 as well.

 

Also; Nuke! That's a name I haven't seen in a while lol 


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AJR568 #26 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:27 PM

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View PostNuke2099, on 12 October 2018 - 06:23 AM, said:

 

On PC they never got a free 268v4. They had to grind it from the 263 when it went to tier 9 as far as I know. The only free tank was the 430U if you already had a 430 and the one between the IS-3 and IS-7 was fully researched. 

 

 

Or they could link a path from the ISU-152 to the 122-54 going to the 268v4

 

Also it isn't exactly OP....or rather it got nerfed on PC and we will likely be getting the current version on PC. It will still be stupid but not as stupid as it once was. On PC when it got nerfed less people played it because it wasn't overwhelmingly broken anymore.

And I highly, highly doubt we'll get the nerfed version. We didnt get the nerfed Foch 155, we didnt get the nerfed Waffle 100. We didn't get the needed T57. There's literally no precedent indicating well get a nerfed 268v4


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Jope2209 #27 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:33 PM

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View PostAJR568, on 12 October 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

And I highly, highly doubt we'll get the nerfed version. We didnt get the nerfed Foch 155, we didnt get the nerfed Waffle 100. We didn't get the needed T57. There's literally no precedent indicating well get a nerfed 268v4

 

There is a long history of nerfed ones too...Take Defender and Chrysler K for instance.

The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).

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View PostJope2209, on 12 October 2018 - 06:33 AM, said:

 

There is a long history of nerfed ones too...Take Defender and Chrysler K for instance.

Those arent TDs tho


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View PostNuke2099, on 12 October 2018 - 06:23 AM, said:

 

On PC they never got a free 268v4. They had to grind it from the 263 when it went to tier 9 as far as I know. The only free tank was the 430U if you already had a 430 and the one between the IS-3 and IS-7 was fully researched. 

 

 

Or they could link a path from the ISU-152 to the 122-54 going to the 268v4

 

Also it isn't exactly OP....or rather it got nerfed on PC and we will likely be getting the current version on PC. It will still be stupid but not as stupid as it once was. On PC when it got nerfed less people played it because it wasn't overwhelmingly broken anymore.

Oh, also; 

 

 

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View PostAJR568, on 12 October 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

OP as [edited]  t10 Russian TD that should be replacing the 263 in the next update

 

Yes, I heard about that.

 

I don't think it will replace anything though, that's not how things are done on the console.



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View PostAJR568, on 12 October 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

And I highly, highly doubt we'll get the nerfed version. We didnt get the nerfed Foch 155, we didnt get the nerfed Waffle 100. We didn't get the needed T57. There's literally no precedent indicating well get a nerfed 268v4

 We got the nerfed Grille 15 in it's PC state until they buffed it's reload for a stupid reason. Also the Foch 155 was nerfed plenty after when it didn't need it. Were likely getting the current state of the 268v4 on PC. It's still a stupid tank just not as stupid. 

 

As for which tanks you will be getting for free you have to remember this is the console version so it's just straight up worse with how they do almost everything. We don't even know if the 268v4, K-91 and 430U are even in the update. They're being vague with those changes but the heavies they're being more upfront with. 

 

Take for example the 430 becoming a tier 9. They haven't mentioned that. The only changes for the medium line that have been mentioned is not being able to go from the 416 to the T-54. They might just be prepping that for the next update.


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View PostNuke2099, on 12 October 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

 We got the nerfed Grille 15 in it's PC state until they buffed it's reload for a stupid reason. Also the Foch 155 was nerfed plenty after when it didn't need it. Were likely getting the current state of the 268v4 on PC. It's still a stupid tank just not as stupid. 

Yeah the pre-nerf foch was still bad. But we did get it with 850 alpha, no? The nerfs to the foch and not the rest of the field was just idiotic.

 

Sad it wont be at full stupid levels. Still wanna get it for free though


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View PostNuke2099, on 12 October 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

 

 

As for which tanks you will be getting for free you have to remember this is the console version so it's just straight up worse with how they do almost everything. We don't even know if the 268v4, K-91 and 430U are even in the update. They're being vague with those changes but the heavies they're being more upfront with. 

That's true. WGUSA has never disappointed when it comes to being worse than the real Russian WG in every conceivable way. 


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View PostAJR568, on 12 October 2018 - 01:10 PM, said:

Yeah the pre-nerf foch was still bad. But we did get it with 850 alpha, no? The nerfs to the foch and not the rest of the field was just idiotic.

 

Sad it wont be at full stupid levels. Still wanna get it for free though

 

Our Foch 155 has never had 850 alpha (actually on release it might have). The 155mm has 770 (odd number for some reason) and they nerfed other aspects. Now it has access to the 120mm autoloader but they didn't give it the side armour buff.....but they buffed the tier 9's side armour...

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View PostAJR568, on 12 October 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

So what do I have to have in my garage to get a free 268v4?

 

You wont get anything in Tech Tree for free from WG lol. Never.

You can only save up XP on tank which would lead to 268\4 to instantly unlock it at best.


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Watching PC clan wars when the 268v4 was in original form was hilarious. 

I think if we get it it will be similar to 215b situation we had where PC gave you super conq but we had to grind it. 



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The SU-122-54 leads to the Obj 268 v4 from the PC TT and the Obj 263 goes to tier 9 and replaced by the Obj 263B 

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They should just remove SU-122-54 because this tank doesn't fit the line at all with TDs with rear mounted guns and armor.

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View PostSzympus1194, on 12 October 2018 - 02:23 PM, said:

They should just remove SU-122-54 because this tank doesn't fit the line at all with TDs with rear mounted guns and armor.

 

Which is why they should have a link from the ISU-152 to the SU-122-54 to the 268v4. That way the tank stays in the game for those that like/want it and it allows you to switch lines. 
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View PostNuke2099, on 12 October 2018 - 02:29 PM, said:

 

Which is why they should have a link from the ISU-152 to the SU-122-54 to the 268v4. That way the tank stays in the game for those that like/want it and it allows you to switch lines. 

 

I doubt there would be many complaints if this tank dissapeared from TT.

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