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Poll: MM and motivation (53 members have cast votes)

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Do you like the current MM

  1. Yes (11 votes [20.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.75%

  2. No (42 votes [79.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.25%

Would you pay more for better MM

  1. Yes (15 votes [27.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.78%

  2. No (34 votes [62.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.96%

  3. Fine as is (5 votes [9.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.26%

Premium tanks go +- 1 tier MM

  1. Yes (35 votes [66.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.04%

  2. No (18 votes [33.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.96%

Would you play more if the MM changes did get a longer quoe time

  1. Yes (32 votes [60.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.38%

  2. No (21 votes [39.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.62%

Do you like the current light meta

  1. Yes (20 votes [37.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.74%

  2. No (33 votes [62.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.26%

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sledge6301 #1 Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:35 PM

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First poll i hope it will be ok.

Haukkis #2 Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:12 AM

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Good topic.

John-berg1995 #3 Posted 27 November 2018 - 08:19 AM

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If they made all tanks +1-1 the game would literally fix it's self over night.

somatichypermut #4 Posted 27 November 2018 - 12:41 PM

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View PostJohn-berg1995, on 27 November 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

If they made all tanks +1-1 the game would literally fix it's self over night.

 

This would help immensely. I had some kid message me and ask why they allow my tier V KV-1S into a battle with his tier III. I had to tell I didn't know but to get used to it. WOT needs to get over the idea that in game light tanks are used as spotters, heavy's for close fighting, etc. They have not built the game for that, or at least that is not how it is played. Switch to +1/-1 PLEASE!

 

I think this would also help them get new players, what fun is a game where tier V tanks one shot you while you try to figure how to play?


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somatichypermut #5 Posted 27 November 2018 - 12:43 PM

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I am not sure newbies will know that MM=matchmaker.

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View PostJohn-berg1995, on 27 November 2018 - 02:19 AM, said:

If they made all tanks +1-1 the game would literally fix it's self over night.

 

Only for tiers I-III or IV,  everything past that the +/- 2 works just fine. 

"When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat."

 

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somatichypermut #7 Posted 27 November 2018 - 01:06 PM

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View Postkiller etzi0, on 27 November 2018 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

Only for tiers I-III or IV,  everything past that the +/- 2 works just fine. 

 

So you like one shotting tanks that have no business on the battlefield, and you LOVE getting one shotted yourself?

somatichypermut #8 Posted 27 November 2018 - 01:09 PM

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It is not a coincidence that two of my fav tanks to play are the Gorynych and British Bulldog, both of which can only go against one tier higher (preferential MM).

John-berg1995 #9 Posted 27 November 2018 - 05:16 PM

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View Postkiller etzi0, on 27 November 2018 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

Only for tiers I-III or IV,  everything past that the +/- 2 works just fine. 

Works just fine

 

Yeah. But it would be even better with +1-1



GrooIsNoLackey #10 Posted 27 November 2018 - 05:35 PM

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What is the current light meta? The surge in lights seems to have run its course. I rarely see games with more than 2-3 lights. 

sledge6301 #11 Posted 27 November 2018 - 06:23 PM

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View PostJohn-berg1995, on 27 November 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

If they made all tanks +1-1 the game would literally fix it's self over night.

 

I tryed hard to argue for this change mainly because the premiumtanks use stock tank guns and dont really cope with tierX tanks.

 

In lower tier it is not being the end of the world but for tierVIII in many cases it is just used as food and there is not fun and kill some of the motivation to spend time in the game there ,there are players that find it amusing but my guess is it is rare and most of them use that as a way to show there superiority and nothing wrong by that.

 

The reason for me to argue about in pariculair tierVIII is the silver you need to spend on premiumshells and consumables makit almost impossibel to use the tank as a silver maker or crewtrainer and that is the hole idea about buying a premium tank in the first place.

 

I dont say that all tierVIII are bad but i say that they are not good enough to be a huge part in tierX gameplay.

 

One way to fix it is to make tierX a real endgoal and only play against its own tier making tierX a real super play mode the game needs it to be in the flagship leage and it makes no sence to me that the game dont have a real competition mode with fair and square gameplay i dont mind playing 7vs7 when servers are low and i dont mind paying more for a diamond mode or whatever the name would be just give us a chance to make it happen we need something more and new to want uS to play the TierX tanks ranked battles is not enough and we need the mode to be a part of platton up and competetive gaming what do you think guys?



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If you go to +1,-1  I can hear the screams for refunds now on all the PMM tanks. 

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View Postkiller etzi0, on 27 November 2018 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

Only for tiers I-III or IV,  everything past that the +/- 2 works just fine. 

For you it works but it should ,your battle count is right up there you know the game youknow the mechanics you know the maps but not everybody shares that knowledge and they probabley never will because they get sick and tired about all and everything they still have to learn and that is exactley my point.

 

The game dont lose players like us because we found it to be an addiction and we love the intriging battles and the rare realy good ones but whitout the knowledge and for whatever reason we still play the game we lose players along the road to get good and the reasons for this is motivation and pain over anger to cope with all the querks that make this game so hard to learn thengame is supposed to be a free to play game but that is really not the case atleast not for me but it is my choise.

 

The game is mainly about gringing to get to a higher level and it work all the way up to tier IX the something happens and the question is ok fine is this it.?

 

Yes this is it and now im going to play agains lower tier tank with my hard grind and no competition it leads to nothing it is emty on the other side cause you are in the top you did it but you are still in the same quoe with the very tanks you just spent time and money to get you get nothing this is the end this is what you get?

 

For me personally every goal needs to add something and the only thing i really care about is fair and square fights in gigantic battles filled with adrenaline and something that will be really hard and tuff to achive yeeeaahh i know get your marks and deal with it no H no i dont want to get personal in a multiplayer mode i want to play with others and continue to get good together with others and make a win   .

Premium tank is for money making and crewtraining lets make them within the reach of there capacity and not as food for higher tier tanks.



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View PostGrooIsNoLackey, on 27 November 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

If you go to +1,-1  I can hear the screams for refunds now on all the PMM tanks. 

 

It is workable for WG to balance the tanks whithin this whitout anyone screaming i promice i will shut t f up and i have a bunch of them so not a biggie.

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View PostGrooIsNoLackey, on 27 November 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:

What is the current light meta? The surge in lights seems to have run its course. I rarely see games with more than 2-3 lights. 

Thank goodness!

 

 


 


Capn Ratchet45 #16 Posted 27 November 2018 - 08:14 PM

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I would suspect that +2 -2 is the reason most players that leave do. Yes you can make it work, but as stated above, it would just be better. Want to retain more players, or draw new ones, turf +2-2. 

 

+2-2 isn't the reason we all stay, we just put up with it. 



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View PostGrooIsNoLackey, on 27 November 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

What is the current light meta? The surge in lights seems to have run its course. I rarely see games with more than 2-3 lights. 

thanks, I'm not the only one who's noticed, there still seems to be alot of people who think otherwise. Ive seen 5 per side maybe twice in the last couple of months. I'm a light player, but can still see past my own bias and understand that 4 or 5 of them is a couple too many EVERY game. We can deal with it now and then, but shouldn't be the norm!

 

WG would be wise to keep the ops geared toward the heavies. If that means we have to grind hvy tanks to earn mercs so be it. Don't screw up the MM by running multiple light tank requiring ops at once. Lesson learned I hope!



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View PostCapn Ratchet45, on 27 November 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

thanks, I'm not the only one who's noticed, there still seems to be alot of people who think otherwise. Ive seen 5 per side maybe twice in the last couple of months. I'm a light player, but can still see past my own bias and understand that 4 or 5 of them is a couple too many EVERY game. We can deal with it now and then, but shouldn't be the norm!

 

WG would be wise to keep the ops geared toward the heavies. If that means we have to grind hvy tanks to earn mercs so be it. Don't screw up the MM by running multiple light tank requiring ops at once. Lesson learned I hope!

 

yea, all those yolo light weren’t fun fur anyone. 

Lots of mediums, td’s and heavies are not a big deal but lots of lights or arty makes for a crappy game dynamic. 


 


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View PostCapn Ratchet45, on 27 November 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

I would suspect that +2 -2 is the reason most players that leave do. Yes you can make it work, but as stated above, it would just be better. Want to retain more players, or draw new ones, turf +2-2. 

 

+2-2 isn't the reason we all stay, we just put up with it. 

 

Funnily enough, I almost seem to do better when bottom tier (my highest tier tank is an 8, so it's inevitable), probably because I'm more careful about my playing. But I do get the feeling that I'm just free XP for the higher tiers much of the time.

 

Last week I actually ended up in an all tier 5 battle, and it was one of the best games I've had. With the tanks more evenly matched, it was more about skill (of which I have little), and that made it really interesting and heart-pumping.



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View Postcydewaze, on 29 November 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

 

Funnily enough, I almost seem to do better when bottom tier (my highest tier tank is an 8, so it's inevitable), probably because I'm more careful about my playing. But I do get the feeling that I'm just free XP for the higher tiers much of the time.

 

Last week I actually ended up in an all tier 5 battle, and it was one of the best games I've had. With the tanks more evenly matched, it was more about skill (of which I have little), and that made it really interesting and heart-pumping.

This is my point fair and sqare gaming at the same level in tier equal battles that will greate more motivation and more skill to get good and it will also keep players accepting the game and wanting to continue playing it even brings back the fun.

 

WG seems to continue in old shoes and dont want the game to be bigger then it is they dont pick up the fun and motivation as a priority they go on like the game is what it is and all the needed changes will not hit the decision makers one bit.

 

Once upon the time there was a need for bringing +-2 caused by the at the time player base that is gone there is enough players and we would have more with changes to the MM so it is just stubborness and or negliance that stands in the way.

 

This poll was created to have the opinions of the players in this forum but we need to be bigger and louder to reach the headquarters of WG so just create all the fuzz and let this happen now.







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