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Is The Pz. IV/V Suffocating Mid and Low Tiers?

RamPanzer German Premium Overpowered Nerf OP Germany Tier V V/IV Pz. V/IV

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Poll: Is the Pz. V/IV Balanced? (37 members have cast votes)

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Is the V/IV currently in an over-buffed state?

  1. Yes, it has too much DPM, Health, gun depression, armor, speed, and accuracy dispersion. (27 votes [72.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 72.97%

  2. No, It has a similar win ratio to other tanks in the game. The high hit ratio, KD, spotting per game, and average damage are due to the tanks playstyle. (4 votes [10.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

  3. Unsure (1 vote [2.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.70%

  4. Doesn't matter, premium tanks should never be nerfed regardless if they're balanced (5 votes [13.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.51%

If so, how would you balance it?

  1. Change the tank to a tier VI (24 votes [57.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  2. Nerf the stats like: gun handling, health, armor, etc (6 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. Remove it from the game (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Remove it from sale permanently (WG has gone back on that promise many times before) (12 votes [28.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

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Capn Ratchet45 #21 Posted 18 December 2018 - 05:42 PM

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its op until you derp it with a 105 on a m4 lol, man I never knew that derp gun was so much fun. dismissed it years ago as a new player.

UBERSICKO #22 Posted 18 December 2018 - 05:49 PM

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Leave it alone, it's fine as it is. It has poor handling characteristics and is easy to avoid because it steers like a boat. If you don't want to be rammed by one keep an eye out and track it, that will kill it's momentum and its done. 

Jb6534 #23 Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:40 PM

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Lol if you want seal clubbing get a T1E6, I love clubbing seals every so often in that thing. Also, I couldn't care less as long as I can 3 mark it before the changes.

 


henrytank77 #24 Posted 19 December 2018 - 05:33 PM

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never had this problem, learn how to beat them
Nothing but a tank thang

panthermark #25 Posted 20 December 2018 - 03:24 PM

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Tank is WAY OP for it's tier. 

 

 


3 MOE's: VK 30.01D (VI), T-34 (V), M-24 Chaffee (V)

2 MOE's: Indien-Panzer (VIII), T-20 (VII), Cromwell B (VI), Snakebite (VI), T-37 (VI), M4 Sherman w/Derp (V), VK 16.02 Leopard (V)


Highlordwurm #26 Posted 20 December 2018 - 05:34 PM

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The only real problem for me is platoons of V/IVs.  5 of those on the red team almost guarantees a sweep!  But really, tier 5 is broken, in general, you can't blame it all on the V/IV.  There are just WAY too many OP tier 5s!  I really do pity f2p players when they get to tier 5, but, hey!  that's life! gotta pay if you want the good things in life :teethhappy:

 


SuperSherman44 #27 Posted 20 December 2018 - 05:38 PM

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View PostCapn Ratchet45, on 18 December 2018 - 05:42 PM, said:

its op until you derp it with a 105 on a m4 lol, man I never knew that derp gun was so much fun. dismissed it years ago as a new player.

 

Have two marks on mine,love derping em' with the 105 and getting all that xp:D

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panthermark #28 Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:25 PM

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I was just killed by one a few seconds ago in a Tier V match.  

 

I was playing a tech tree Russian T-34....one of my favorite tanks...and is a great tank.  Got caught in a 1 on 1 battle in the middle of on open field on Westfield.  Got the jump on him and got the first hit in before while he missed his first shot.  Even tracked him so I could get some hits on him...but it went all down hill from there. 

 

Max speed?  The fast and light T-34 goes 56kmh.  The massive V/IV tops out at 55kmh.   I saw him on the map, and started to turn and run....but a T-34 isn't fast enough to truly out run it. 

 

Since I can't run, I turned to fight...trying to out circle him (my only advantage)...which I did (until he tracked me).   450 health points vs 870 health points is not a fair battle....at all. 

 

Had a similar issue a few days ago in my M4 derp.  At the start of a game (Ensk, tier V room), I took cover behind a house (North spawn) trying to do some spotting and get hits across the field with the derp.  A V/IV simply charged the map....bouncing shots along the way.   So I've basically taken on shot, ducked behind a house to reload....and in before I could reload, a 5/4 crossed the field side of Ensk, shot me right before he rammed me, then kept on going.  25 seconds into a game, I'm already on my way to the garage because a YOLOLOL V/IV is so OP for it's tier.  

 

I should add.....both my T-34 and M4 derp are two marked......

 


Edited by panthermark, 20 December 2018 - 06:27 PM.

3 MOE's: VK 30.01D (VI), T-34 (V), M-24 Chaffee (V)

2 MOE's: Indien-Panzer (VIII), T-20 (VII), Cromwell B (VI), Snakebite (VI), T-37 (VI), M4 Sherman w/Derp (V), VK 16.02 Leopard (V)


panthermark #29 Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:36 PM

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The other problem is that it is a premium tank, so with it's extra silver and extra XP.....people drop their 8 skill crews in it, and can spam prammo.   With a crazy fast 1.71 aim time and prammo, it will easily pen everything it's tier. 

 

It needs to be moved up a tier....or nerfed. 


3 MOE's: VK 30.01D (VI), T-34 (V), M-24 Chaffee (V)

2 MOE's: Indien-Panzer (VIII), T-20 (VII), Cromwell B (VI), Snakebite (VI), T-37 (VI), M4 Sherman w/Derp (V), VK 16.02 Leopard (V)


InSpiredWON #30 Posted 20 December 2018 - 08:19 PM

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I think it is fine.  Some people and platoons just really play them well.  Learn to deal with it and adapt as best you can.  It is the ramming that is scary not the gun IMOP.  I am not a big fan of nerfing.

deadman1921 #31 Posted 20 December 2018 - 08:24 PM

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It needs an accuracy buff.

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